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Old 09-22-2012, 08:02 PM   #1
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micro scratches in clear coat

Hi guys,
My 2010 Camaro which until last week had the perfect showroom condition paint-job from the factory.
Make a long story short I went to Autozone and told them I would like to wax my car and ask what they recommend.
They sold me a compound wax which after I was done applying to my car left 1 million micro scratches all over my clear-coat.
I afterwards waxed the car with a polish, kit wax and even had it detailed but still I can see the imperfection in the clear-coat when looking at the car in the sun or from certain angles.
It really bothers me me a lot since the "new car look" now is gone after taken such good care for 2.5 year and only 7500 miles.
What is you recommendation? Where should I take this car to once again have a showroom like paint and clear-coat?
I guys help is greatly appreciated.
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Old 09-22-2012, 08:12 PM   #2
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Which brand of compound wax did they sell you ?
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Old 09-22-2012, 08:18 PM   #3
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That can be taken care of, Get yourself a portcable and some Adam's prodcuts, watch the videos. Plan on a day in the garage and you will have a showroom finsih again.

I did this back in March and it took care of every swirl I had at that time.

I plan to do this yearly now.

http://www.adamspolishes.com/c-59-po...sher-kits.aspx
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Old 09-22-2012, 08:19 PM   #4
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Meguiar's® Ultimate Compound

Safely restore color and clarity to abused and neglected finishes with Meguiar's® Ultimate Compound. Our revolutionary formula cuts as fast as harsh abrasive compounds but without scratching… even on clear coat finishes.
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Old 09-22-2012, 08:21 PM   #5
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That can be taken care of, Get yourself a portcable and some Adam's prodcuts, watch the videos. Plan on a day in the garage and you will have a showroom finsih again.

I did this back in March and it took care of every swirl I had at that time.

I plan to do this yearly now.

http://www.adamspolishes.com/c-59-po...sher-kits.aspx
I am affraid I would do even more damage to the car.
Can this be sanded out with a 2000 grit sand-paper?
I am so confused by looking at all the fixes they have online.
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Old 09-22-2012, 08:24 PM   #6
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Safely restore color and clarity to abused and neglected finishes with Meguiar's® Ultimate Compound. Our revolutionary formula cuts as fast as harsh abrasive compounds but without scratching… even on clear coat finishes.

I was looking at this product,is this what you used,and caused the scratches.
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Old 09-22-2012, 08:53 PM   #7
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Dude, the Autozone people were idiots - pardon my brashness.

They sold you a compound? Well, no wonder your car is covered in scratches. First of all, there is a profound difference between the words "polish" and "wax," unlike what products like Zaino or NuFinish will tell you.

A POLISH is an abrasive product, where an abrasive mixture (usually aluminum oxide) is suspended in a vehicle (fluid). When rubbed against the paint surface whether by hand or machine, it cuts away at the surface with the intention to level it.

A WAX is not abrasive, and it is simply a product meant to be layered over the paint with a means of protecting it and in most cases, improving the clarity of the paintwork.

The ULTIMATE COMPOUND they gave you is an extremely strong form of a polish - when you rubbed it against your paint, you were scratching the hell out of it with the microabrasives in that compound. Needless to say, you didn't wax your car, you compounded it - you REMOVED some clearcoat.

Those scratches you have will be easy to remove, but you'll need to enter the world of machine polishing.

Catch up on detailing here in this forum. There's a lot you have to learn.
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Yes, that is what I used :(
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Old 09-22-2012, 09:35 PM   #9
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Dude, the Autozone people were idiots - pardon my brashness.

They sold you a compound? Well, no wonder your car is covered in scratches. First of all, there is a profound difference between the words "polish" and "wax," unlike what products like Zaino or NuFinish will tell you.

A POLISH is an abrasive product, where an abrasive mixture (usually aluminum oxide) is suspended in a vehicle (fluid). When rubbed against the paint surface whether by hand or machine, it cuts away at the surface with the intention to level it.

A WAX is not abrasive, and it is simply a product meant to be layered over the paint with a means of protecting it and in most cases, improving the clarity of the paintwork.

The ULTIMATE COMPOUND they gave you is an extremely strong form of a polish - when you rubbed it against your paint, you were scratching the hell out of it with the microabrasives in that compound. Needless to say, you didn't wax your car, you compounded it - you REMOVED some clearcoat.

Those scratches you have will be easy to remove, but you'll need to enter the world of machine polishing.

Catch up on detailing here in this forum. There's a lot you have to learn.
I feel like an even bigger idiot for not doing research prior to applying the compound.
I also feel mislead by McGuire for mislabeling the bottle since it states that it does not ruin your paint or clear-coat and wont scratch.
I was shocked when I took the car in the bright sun and show the damage done.
The waxing, polishes and detailing have helped but still it is not what the car looked like before.
It has never been driven in the car, been through a car wash and always has been detailed by hand only.

I tried once before on another car with a buffer and wax but I am not good at it.
Where can I take this to have this professional restored ?
The detail place where I took it today said they would get it out but they did not.


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Old 09-22-2012, 10:14 PM   #10
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That can be taken care of, Get yourself a portcable and some Adam's prodcuts, watch the videos. Plan on a day in the garage and you will have a showroom finsih again.

I did this back in March and it took care of every swirl I had at that time.

I plan to do this yearly now.

http://www.adamspolishes.com/c-59-po...sher-kits.aspx
This was what I was going to recommend as well. Although I only ready about it and through multiple sources, from what I've read this will definitely solve your problem. I too have micro scratches and I have yet to polish the car. I plan on investing in the porter cable sometime relatively soon, although it is expensive. Has anyone had the same issues as the original OP and was able to get out the scratches with this device? I actually had similar issues with my LT actually, and I've been taking much better care of my 2SS.
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This was what I was going to recommend as well. Although I only ready about it and through multiple sources, from what I've read this will definitely solve your problem. I too have micro scratches and I have yet to polish the car. I plan on investing in the porter cable sometime relatively soon, although it is expensive. Has anyone had the same issues as the original OP and was able to get out the scratches with this device? I actually had similar issues with my LT actually, and I've been taking much better care of my 2SS.
I just went to that side again and was wondering instead of spending $200 plus having this done by a professional?
I live in the Scottsdale AZ area if anybody can recommend somebody you truly can trust let me know.
One thing for sure I won't be able to fix this unless I use a machine.

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Old 09-22-2012, 10:46 PM   #12
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Ultimate compound is a great product when used with a DA and followed up by a polish.

It definitly isn't a wax.

You might try finding someone thru Autogeek.net. They have a great forum.

It won't be to hard to correct that!!!
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Old 09-22-2012, 10:51 PM   #13
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Maybe I will try Adams products on my wife's car first
Or my neighbor who is in Canada right now. He would be pleasantly surprised to see his car in new condition.
I don't think I have a lot of choices.
A $10 Compound wax is going to cost me several hundred of $$ plus endless hours of sleep.
I think I will start a detailing business!
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Old 09-22-2012, 11:04 PM   #14
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I've used Ultimate Compound before on mine with a buffer, but it needs to be followed up with a swirl mark remover. It's not that harsh of a compound, I found it to work real good on minor scratches. Works best with a machine.

You will need a good DA buffer.

Get a Porter Cable, and some Adams Fine Machine Polish and white pads.

Wash the car with Dawn dish soap to get all the wax off. Then using the PC and the Adams Fine Machine Polish work on each panel until all the swirl marks are gone. Watch the Adams video first on their DVD you can request when buying the Porter Cable. There is a ton of info on it, but really all you need to fix your problem is the Fine Machine Polish using the PC on speed 5 ish. Then wax the car.

I would rather fix that myself, because someone else even a pro may go after that with a buffer and just add more swirl marks. A Porter Cable with Adams FMP is very safe and easy to use.
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