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Old 11-20-2012, 12:57 AM   #51
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After the 205?

Junkman,

I watched all five of these videos, took notes and bought the stuff you recommended minus the Zaino blonde due to stock out. Really good stuff. You made me laugh and kept me glued to the set. Incredible.

So, after 205 then what? Wax? Zaino Z-8? Nothin'? And why?

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Old 11-20-2012, 01:47 AM   #52
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Junkman,

I watched all five of these videos, took notes and bought the stuff you recommended minus the Zaino blonde due to stock out. Really good stuff. You made me laugh and kept me glued to the set. Incredible.

So, after 205 then what? Wax? Zaino Z-8? Nothin'? And why?

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I spoke with Sal Zaino today. More Borderless Blond towels are on the way.

The next step is wax. It can be whatever wax you want because you now will need to protect that naked shine. That's what wax does, protect the paint. You have already made it as shiny as it can be by polishing it to perfection. Now protect that shine with wax.

Now here's what I do and why I do it. I apply a sealant (HiTemp's Midnight Express Polymer Sealant), because sealants provide the longest lasting protection out of all the different types of waxes. The sealant that I presently use requires me to wait 36 hours before I can do ANYTHING else to the paint (that's the curing time, or amount of time that it takes that sealant to bond to the paint). Since I want to have double the protection on my paint, I would like to apply a second coat after the first coat cures. The only problem with this is that 2 coats of that sealant would take me 6 days to apply when you factor in the curing time. I do not want to be working on my car for 6 days before I can drive or wash it again so instead of a second coat of sealant, I apply a coat of carnuba paste wax (Collinite Doublecoat Paste Wax). It goes on quick and comes off quick so I can drive the car the same day that I apply it.

Now here comes the important part. Nowhere in that explanation did you read that I apply the type of waxes that I use in order to get some type of appearance gain. Wax is a protectant. It protects your paint from industrial fallout and nature's bombardment. The wax DOES NOT make my paint look any different than it did before I applied it. So anything you read about wax making your perfectly polished paint look any different is NOT a view that I share whatsoever. Also, when I say perfectly polished paint, I mean flawless, with no imperfections. I did a video about this very subject in this thread.

So that's what you need to do and why you need to do it.

Just think. You sat through 1:53:00 minutes of automobile detailing information and I didn't even have to use a scantly clad woman to hold your attention.
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Old 11-20-2012, 03:08 AM   #53
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I spoke with Sal Zaino today. More Borderless Blond towels are on the way.

The next step is wax. It can be whatever wax you want because you now will need to protect that naked shine. That's what wax does, protect the paint. You have already made it as shiny as it can be by polishing it to perfection. Now protect that shine with wax.

Now here's what I do and why I do it. I apply a sealant (HiTemp's Midnight Express Polymer Sealant), because sealants provide the longest lasting protection out of all the different types of waxes. The sealant that I presently use requires me to wait 36 hours before I can do ANYTHING else to the paint (that's the curing time, or amount of time that it takes that sealant to bond to the paint). Since I want to have double the protection on my paint, I would like to apply a second coat after the first coat cures. The only problem with this is that 2 coats of that sealant would take me 6 days to apply when you factor in the curing time. I do not want to be working on my car for 6 days before I can drive or wash it again so instead of a second coat of sealant, I apply a coat of carnuba paste wax (Collinite Doublecoat Paste Wax). It goes on quick and comes off quick so I can drive the car the same day that I apply it.

Now here comes the important part. Nowhere in that explanation did you read that I apply the type of waxes that I use in order to get some type of appearance gain. Wax is a protectant. It protects your paint from industrial fallout and nature's bombardment. The wax DOES NOT make my paint look any different than it did before I applied it. So anything you read about wax making your perfectly polished paint look any different is NOT a view that I share whatsoever. Also, when I say perfectly polished paint, I mean flawless, with no imperfections. I did a video about this very subject in this thread.

So that's what you need to do and why you need to do it.

Just think. You sat through 1:53:00 minutes of automobile detailing information and I didn't even have to use a scantly clad woman to hold your attention.
LMFAO! Your last line. Hilarious. Maybe I had the iPad going with those women while you were talking and I missed something?

I assume you do the sealant by hand since the paint will be super smooth. True?

What's the diff between, say, HiTemp's Midnight Express Polymer Sealant and Zaino's Z-CS Clear Seal?
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LMFAO! Your last line. Hilarious. Maybe I had the iPad going with those women while you were talking and I missed something?

I assume you do the sealant by hand since the paint will be super smooth. True?
The sealant I use has very minor correction capabilities to it and some fillers. It is made to be applied by rotary, however I use either my Flex or PC to apply it (normally just the PC). I don't need the correction or filler capabilities, just the protection it offers. The reason I am using it is because someone sent it to me for free and it works. There are a bunch of other sealants that I could be using such as Meguiar's #20 or Menzerna's Power Lock Polymer Paint Sealant. Any of these sealants will do exactly what I need them to do and that's protect the paint.

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What's the diff between, say, HiTemp's Midnight Express Polymer Sealant and Zaino's Z-CS Clear Seal?
As for the difference between what I'm using and the product Zaino offers, all you have to do is read their product descriptions. They say what they do in their product description so if you can read past the hype, I think that their product descriptions speak best for themselves. They are definitely NOT the same but then Zaino is a completely different line of products when compared to any I have seen. Here's a product description of the Midnight Express sealant from their website.

"A black, carnauba wax formulated especially for dark clearcoated vehicles. Hi-Tech Midnight Express is blended with polymers, ultra fine abrasives, and gloss intensifying additives. This product will help alleviate those fine scratches & spider webbing swirls commonly associated with darker color finishes bringing them back to a slick wet shine.

So by reading the descriptions of both products, you can see the differences between the two.
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The description though for the sealent for mid it seems odd. It's saying it will fix scratches and swirls and such. First off how does the sealant even know what color your car is lol so to say good for dark cars lol. How? Also I thought a sealant was a overly greased application that uses fillers to do a visual fix for a temp. Fix but doesn't do any correcting. So then makes me wonder what if any of what the products state is true.i have watched your videos. A bunch of them. No I always thought that. That a sealant was a quick visual fix and that that was the problem with a lot of detailers they apply a thick coat of sealant and then when you get your car looks awesome until it washes away in a week and all those swirls and scratches are back. I know your applying it after you corrected the paint. But if corrected why apply that stage at all. Doesn't a wax protect your paint and polish correct it. So still not sure why sealant.
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Old 11-20-2012, 04:19 AM   #56
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... No I always thought that. That a sealant was a quick visual fix and that that was the problem with a lot of detailers they apply a thick coat of sealant and then when you get your car looks awesome until it washes away in a week and all those swirls and scratches are back.
You've got a sealant mixed up with a glaze. That's what a glaze does and is very similar to what Zaino's flagship products do. That's why Zaino users will tell you that the more coats you apply, the better your paint will look, which is true.

As for the description that Hi-Temp offers for their product, have you watched that video about that product that I linked you too?
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Well since I just watched almost 2 hours of videos before 5 am figured I would take a break and go to the gym. I will try to watch it before the weekend which is when I plan on doing my paint restoration. Year old and although just light swirls I want them out. I know what's its from. Dealer washes car looks awesome but they use a "glaze" and once it washes off car looks all swirled up again. One product I do like for nice detail before shows is that Lucas detail wax. Looks and works awesome. So junkman I plan on taking advantage of the Black Friday sales. I see all kinds of packages with the pc. I know it's preference but which do I get that can give me all I need for the restore job. I already have foam gun two bucket wash system. More need products and pads. I see all from adams to wolf to pinnacle to all kinds to the junkman adams package. Thanks always for your videos and help. Couldn't do it without you. Thanks
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:13 AM   #58
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Well since I just watched almost 2 hours of videos before 5 am figured I would take a break and go to the gym. I will try to watch it before the weekend which is when I plan on doing my paint restoration. Year old and although just light swirls I want them out. I know what's its from. Dealer washes car looks awesome but they use a "glaze" and once it washes off car looks all swirled up again. One product I do like for nice detail before shows is that Lucas detail wax. Looks and works awesome. So junkman I plan on taking advantage of the Black Friday sales. I see all kinds of packages with the pc. I know it's preference but which do I get that can give me all I need for the restore job. I already have foam gun two bucket wash system. More need products and pads. I see all from adams to wolf to pinnacle to all kinds to the junkman adams package. Thanks always for your videos and help. Couldn't do it without you. Thanks
Two things. First, there is no such thing as a Junkman's Adam's Kit. That has been gone for months. Second, if you have watched all 5 of those videos in their entirety and understood what you watched, why would you be asking about what kit to buy when I clearly show you in the videos exactly what to use? Everything that I used did not come from the same place. Some of it you will find locally and some of it you will need to purchase over the Internet. It is not some kind of kit.

A lot of the kits you buy will have almost everything you need but most of them sell you stuff you don't need. So even if you bought a kit, you would still need to add stuff to it. By the time its said and done, you've went and spent way more than you should have. If you buy the stuff that I use in the videos, it will not only be cheaper but you know for a fact that it works. That's what you just sat and watched.

Don't complicate the process or make it rocket science. Buy what I used and use it the way you watched me use it. You don't need a kit, you need specific items. That's why I showed them to the camera, one at a time.
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Two things. First, there is no such thing as a Junkman's Adam's Kit. That has been gone for months. Second, if you have watched all 5 of those videos in their entirety and understood what you watched, why would you be asking about what kit to buy when I clearly show you in the videos exactly what to use? Everything that I used did not come from the same place. Some of it you will find locally and some of it you will need to purchase over the Internet. It is not some kind of kit.

A lot of the kits you buy will have almost everything you need but most of them sell you stuff you don't need. So even if you bought a kit, you would still need to add stuff to it. By the time its said and done, you've went and spent way more than you should have. If you buy the stuff that I use in the videos, it will not only be cheaper but you know for a fact that it works. That's what you just sat and watched.

Don't complicate the process or make it rocket science. Buy what I used and use it the way you watched me use it. You don't need a kit, you need specific items. That's why I showed them to the camera, one at a time.
I can't read your post now without hearing your voice.... damn youtube!!
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haha when im getting my therapy in i hear his voice telling me what to do and to slow down dont use to much product lol
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Junkman,

Any recommendation on where to purchase a proper California Duster?
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Any recommendation on where to purchase a proper California Duster?
Auto Zone has them all day long, as well as Wally World.
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In the market for porter cable 7424 if anyone knows best deal been looking haven't seen it under 120. Bump please. And junk man the list has been made. Thank you so much. Can't wait to post pics of before and after.
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Everyone has great sales on this weekend. The detailing forums are full of used machines for sale. If you want a cheap throw-a-way da Harbor Frieght has a new one and with coupon its under sixty bucks. There is no reason to not be able to find a good deal this time of year. AG and ACC have 15% off. ADS is 10% off. Detail Image is 25% off and has the 7424XP at 114.99 w/free shipping. DetalersBuddies members on FB have some used machines for sale. Nuff said.
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I look and all deals aren't what they seem. Most don't apply to buffers so find me a pc 7424xp on sale under 120. Because over the last few weeks I been watching and that's what they been going for.
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The price at Tools-Plus fluctuates by the week. Right now the polisher is $119 with free shipping. I've seen it as low as $114 at their site.

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NEGATIVE. Under no circumstances do you want to buy that crap and try to fix your paint with it. It is no where close to anything worthwhile.
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Got my list junkman. Zaino is out of blondes so any others? Also like that that detail juice is right down the road local in tampa. Shot them a email to see if I could just go pick up. One question. Can I clay on weekend and then follow paint correction next weekend or should it all be done at once. Also I know this is paint correction thread but I don't wanna watch last one till I have all the tools. Sealers? Should I get the sealer from dean while I'm the or should I watch the other videos on sealant.
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You can break the entire paint correction process down to as many days or weeks as you want. Just refrain from creating NEW damage once you've fixed an area. After the correction is complete, get some wax on the paint ASAP. You can use any sealant or wax that you want but if you go with Gary Dean's, make sure that you ask him to explain to you EXACTLY how it should be applied and how often. Have him also explain to you how you can tell when more wax or sealant needs to be applied.

Also let him know that I sent you. He and I have talked extensively about detailing and his product line. Cool guy.
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Best price I've ever seen for new. I wonder what the shipping cost will be.
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Shipping is free junkman. The hex logic are only sold at chemical? You say universal colors so can I get a Ccc 5.5 inch pad same colors. And the white hex pad looks gray in picture. Lastly any news on zaino towels. And which back plate see a few different ones. Sme flex some none flex. Thanks.
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