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Old 09-26-2012, 03:00 AM   #1
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Question Do u think of the paint quality of camaro is bad ?

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i have VR color , i feel the paint is very sensitive , for example when there is a little dust on the car and i toch the body or move the fingers on it'll shows scratches !!


i feel the paint is very weak and low quality , i don't know if this point just for my car paint or all of camaro paint ?!
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Old 09-26-2012, 04:04 AM   #2
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I think it has something to do with the paint's quality.
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Old 09-26-2012, 04:23 AM   #3
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I have the same prob with my VR ZL1
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Old 09-26-2012, 05:01 AM   #4
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the paint on these cars are crap.
there's like no clearcoat at all over the paint, if you wax it to hard you burn right though the clearcoat.
I'll hate to see what my car will look like in a few years.
A lot of disapointment over the purchase of my camaro.
don't believe I would buy another.
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Old 09-26-2012, 06:41 AM   #5
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hi guys

i have VR color , i feel the paint is very sensitive , for example when there is a little dust on the car and i toch the body or move the fingers on it'll shows scratches !!


i feel the paint is very weak and low quality , i don't know if this point just for my car paint or all of camaro paint ?!
Having detailing everything from Bugatti's to Ferrari's to Bentleys, I would say that the paint on the Camaro isn't the worst I have seen.

As far as being scratch sensitive, almost all modern clear coats are. There are very few paint systems, namely those used by Audi/VW/Lambroghini/Bugatti, that will withstand the abrasion of dust.

Proper washing techniques and handling are necessary to avoid damaging/scratching the clear coat.
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Old 09-26-2012, 06:45 AM   #6
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the paint on these cars are crap.
there's like no clearcoat at all over the paint, if you wax it to hard you burn right though the clearcoat.
I'll hate to see what my car will look like in a few years.
A lot of disapointment over the purchase of my camaro.
don't believe I would buy another.
When I polished a couple of Camaro's for SEMA two years ago we tested the thickness of the clear coat, and IIRC, it was around 2 mils, which is fairly normal/ common. It certainly wasn't thin enough to raise any eyebrows.

Waxing too hard will not damage the clear coat on these cars. Using a machine polisher, an aggressive compound, and poor technique will, but not applying wax with pressure.
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Old 09-26-2012, 06:47 AM   #7
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I got rock chips in the side gill areas. The paint isn't the toughest but it holds it's shine good.
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:05 AM   #8
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My car is only 8 months old and has more scratches and chips in it than my 10 year old truck that i drive all winter. Ive just had bad luck i guess. Also a bunch of the scratches are curtsy of my local dealer, who i never go to anymore.
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:15 AM   #9
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You are not alone. I have a VR "Z" and I PROMISE you ,none of that extra money went towards the paint!! I think I could breath real hard on it and it would leave a scratch in the CC. Dont get me wrong I love my car,but out of the many ,many cars Ive owned(over 30) this paint is one of the worst. Shines great!!1 But thats it.
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:19 AM   #10
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the paint on these cars are crap.
there's like no clearcoat at all over the paint, if you wax it to hard you burn right though the clearcoat.
I'll hate to see what my car will look like in a few years.
A lot of disapointment over the purchase of my camaro.
don't believe I would buy another.
My car is 3 and 1/2 years now. Paint is still on, but I can tell you I have chips galore on the front bumper, and the fake gills.
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:59 AM   #11
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I did a full polish this spring on our black 2011 Camaro with a PC7424 and some Menzerna polishes. I removed all residue with Meg's Final Inspection, and the paint was flawless. Not a swirl. Did a sealant application, followed by monthly waxes.

I did the same with my 2007 black Dodge Charger. Same perfection to the paint.

I used the two bucket method all summer. I presoak with a Foam gun, then use two mitts to wash (upper half mitt and lower half mitt). I sheet the water off, then use a leaf blower to complete. I only use new MF towels when I wax.

Four months later, my Charger has a couple random scratches, but the paint is till like a mirror. The Camaro, on the other hand, is friggin SWIRL CITY. Still shines great, but all those swirls suck!

On the other hand, front end looks fine--no chips---and up to 15,000 miles. We were warned about gill chips, so I bought the 1/4 flares and installed within the first week. No chips at all around the gills, or anywhere else. Just SWIRLS!!

I'd hate to see a dark colored Camaro that goes to brush car washes!!

It does make me feel like I'm wasting my time on all the extra work trying to keep it swirl free. I'm convinced it's the cheap water-based paint Chevy uses on these cars.
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Old 09-26-2012, 12:38 PM   #12
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Couple things here:

1. You can properly maintain these cars and avoid swirls. Don't blame Chevy for your lack of proper car care. I do it, and I live in a freaking apartment where I have to go use the pay 'n' spray wash.

2. The rock chips have FAR more to do with the design of the car than with the quality of the paint. The front of the car is completely flat vertical, and the quarters stick out in such a way that of course debris is going to blast them. If you don't like it, blame the design of the car you all love so much.

3. It's not just Chevy using "cheap water-based paint." All manufacturers in the US must use water-based paints (or, more specifically, VOC-compliant paints) to sell a new car. Solvent-based paints can cause cancer, dementia, and a myriad other health problems for those that work with and around them. But at least you wouldn't have to look at a pesky swirlmark, right?

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Old 09-26-2012, 01:28 PM   #13
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Because of this awesome Camaro5 forum, I followed advice of some, and installed Quarter flares a week after delivery. To this date, not one chip on the gill area. I highly recommend 'em.
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Old 09-26-2012, 01:39 PM   #14
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my IOM paint is perfect.
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:58 PM   #15
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I think the paint of the car is fine. Its basically up to you whether you want to keep you vehicle scratch free. Before picking up the Z, I never cared how I washed my SUV. I dried it with regular bath towels. Used dish soap and dressed the tires only. SO you only imagine how that paint looks to my Z. DO the research and work to keep your camaro from being swirl city
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Old 09-26-2012, 07:39 PM   #16
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Because of this awesome Camaro5 forum, I followed advice of some, and installed Quarter flares a week after delivery. To this date, not one chip on the gill area. I highly recommend 'em.
Quarter flares for the win
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:10 PM   #17
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:16 PM   #18
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:04 AM   #19
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i take care of my car , but i'm not talking here about scratches wich os not GM fult ; i'm talking about what GM did job on camaro paint to make it very sensitive for any small toches and with bad clearcoat or short life for clearcoat !!

i think they save alot of $ frome paint job..
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:27 AM   #20
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my IOM paint is perfect.
So is the paint on my '10 summit white SS 23,000 miles later.
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:52 AM   #21
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So is the paint on my '10 summit white SS 23,000 miles later.
White is easy. I would venture to bet, if you took a Brinkman light to it, you'd see all the swirls and paint flaws.
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Old 09-27-2012, 10:38 AM   #22
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White is easy. I would venture to bet, if you took a Brinkman light to it, you'd see all the swirls and paint flaws.
Who the hell carries around a brinkman light ?
I could have had a black SS 4 months before I ordered mine- NO THANKS !!
After 3 years and 23,000 mostly highway miles I have no paint chips
and for a factory paint job no paint flaws.
I know lots of guys have paint issues with the Camaro but I guess I was just lucky.
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Old 09-27-2012, 11:28 AM   #23
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[QUOTE=myold88;5627462]Who the hell carries around a brinkman light ?
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I thought everyone did!


Well your lucky that your White is fine. I know 3 others with Summit White Camaros...2 are Grandmas, and one is my 24 year old niece. I don't think any of them hand wash their cars, and they look fine from a distance. That's the important thing for most.

I'm beginning to think it's just the Black that is extra soft and easily scratched. Perhaps it's something to do with the pigmentation, who knows.
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Old 09-27-2012, 11:38 AM   #24
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Old 09-27-2012, 11:41 AM   #25
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Paint on most card suck these days. The Camaro is no different.
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