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Old 06-01-2009, 07:04 PM   #1
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Why not the 2010 Mustang?

I hope we can have a real discussion about this....
But seriously, after taking a look at the 2010 Mustang, I'm wondering if I am missing something. (yes yes, it's my mind, I've lost it !!!)
Just to get it out of the way, I'll list the things that are very apparent:

1) No brembos on the GT
2) No IRS
3) Less Power
4) Doesn't have the cool new look of Camaro
5) No sunroof option
6) 6 speed vs 5 speed
7) No 304 HP V6
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I hope we can have a real discussion about this....
But seriously, after taking a look at the 2010 Mustang, I'm wondering if I am missing something. (yes yes, it's my mind, I've lost it !!!)
Just to get it out of the way, I'll list the things that are very apparent:

1) No brembos on the GT
2) No IRS
3) Less Power
4) Doesn't have the cool new look of Camaro
5) No sunroof option
6) 6 speed vs 5 speed
7) No 304 HP V6
To each is own. I like the looks of the Mustang, but when you put it up to the Camaro...outside of looks, it pales in comparison with the horsepower you get for the money. I'm not saying the Camaro doesn't look good, just that both cars' appearances are appealing.
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They didn't really change anything about the Mustang except add a few curves here and there. The camaro is an overall superior car compared to the Mustang GT. It actually doesn't even compare, most people are already comparing the new Camaro to the new 2010 Shelby GT500.

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personally, i cant stand the new mustang. they really didn't change it. plus like you mentioned, the power and the looks arent there.
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Old 06-01-2009, 07:17 PM   #5
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They didn't really change anything about the Mustang except add a few curves here and there. The camaro is an overall superior car compared to the Mustang GT. It actually doesn't even compare, most people are already comparing the new Camaro to the new 2010 Shelby GT500.

Why is it important that they change something? It is what it is. I don't think you have anything to back up your claim of a superior car.
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Old 06-01-2009, 07:18 PM   #6
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personally, i cant stand the new mustang. they really didn't change it. plus like you mentioned, the power and the looks arent there.
The new Mustang looks a lot better in person than those photos.

As far as power, well honestly I'm not usually trying to do a 12 second quarter mile when I drive to work. If I'm quicker than 80% of the other cars, I'm happy.
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How about simply because its NOT a Camaro. Yes I'm a fan boy, but my mother still loves me.
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Why is it important that they change something? It is what it is. I don't think you have anything to back up your claim of a superior car.
Well i can tell your a Ford "Enthusiast" but for starters the price to performance ratio pretty much screams "Superior" but if that's not enough just take a look at all the track records and specs... oh and the 7 reasons you listed above should do it.

And if the 7 reasons you listed arnt enough, this obviously isn't the place for you... hope you like the looks of the ass end on the Camaro because that's all you will be seeing if you go with the mustang.
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How about simply because its NOT a Camaro. Yes I'm a fan boy, but my mother still loves me.
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Old 06-01-2009, 07:30 PM   #10
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Well i can tell your a Ford "Enthusiast" who has not taken the interest in doing some research on these to cars but for starters the price to performance ratio pretty much screams "Superior" but if that's not enough just take a look at all the track records and specs.
Nope, not a Ford enthusiast at all. I love GM cars. But is the HP number the only thing you care about?

I've done tons of research, believe me.

My SSEI has 205 HP but it will beat most cars on the road in a short sprint from a traffic light.
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just remember that those numbers are changing and that mustang's power has been down because only until recenly there was no competition
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Nope, not a Ford enthusiast at all. I love GM cars. But is the HP number the only thing you care about?

I've done tons of research, believe me.

My SSEI has 205 HP but it will beat most cars on the road in a short sprint from a traffic light.
Edited my post, have a look...

And by most cars do you mean your civics, SUV's, ect...?
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just remember that those numbers are changing and that mustang's power has been down because only until recenly there was no competition
No point in making excuses. Why shouldn't the Mustang have continued improving when there was no competition?

I'm not saying the Mustang isn't awesome, but I am not interested in hearing excuses on why it's the way it is and how it will change in the future. We are talking about here and now.
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just remember that those numbers are changing and that mustang's power has been down because only until recenly there was no competition
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Old 06-01-2009, 07:42 PM   #15
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Edited my post, have a look...

And by most cars do you mean your civics, SUV's, ect...?
I purposely did not make a list of things that the Mustang does better. I want to hear a better debate than just "it has more HP"

About the Civics and SUV's - Nope, the supercharged 3.8L has a proven track record and pulls very strong. Oh, and it's a GM.

You say this isn't the place for me, but it is. This is the best place to learn about the Camaro. It's just hard to filter out what is real and what is "Camaro Fever".
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If someone was to seriously sit down and compare the two and drive them back to back the Camaro would win everytime, regardless of price.

The new Mustang looks far better than the previous "generation" (dont know why Ford insists is a new one) but that is about all you get in the Mustang except for a few cool gadgets. I personally like the changeable light feature.
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I purposely did not make a list of things that the Mustang does better. I want to hear a better debate than just "it has more HP"

About the Civics and SUV's - Nope, the supercharged 3.8L has a proven track record and pulls very strong. Oh, and it's a GM.

You say this isn't the place for me, but it is. This is the best place to learn about the Camaro. It's just hard to filter out what is real and what is "Camaro Fever".
I don't find it too hard to filter what's real and what isn't. I use the numbers (track, handling, 0-60, $$$) for comparison as well as what I like about each car. Every single car forum is going to be biased about their own car, but that's to be expected (unfortunately).
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If someone was to seriously sit down and compare the two and drive them back to back the Camaro would win everytime, regardless of price.

Based on what? Power? Handling? Visibility?

The new Mustang looks far better than the previous "generation" (dont know why Ford insists is a new one) but that is about all you get in the Mustang except for a few cool gadgets. I personally like the changeable light feature.
If it looks so much better, than why are you not able to accept that it is a new generation?

Please list what you get in the Camaro that you don't get in the Mustang so we can have a reasonable discussion on each point.
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Old 06-01-2009, 07:51 PM   #19
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I don't find it too hard to filter what's real and what isn't. I use the numbers (track, handling, 0-60, $$$) for comparison as well as what I like about each car. Every single car forum is going to be biased about their own car, but that's to be expected (unfortunately).
Ok so list some of the comparison numbers, SS vs GT
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For all the praise about the great materials inside the Stang, the interior looks bland and dated. Bleh.
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Sigh* here we go again. Of course we can state all of the things the mustang does compare to a SS, but of course it will be..

1. Track pack
2. Mag was paid by Ford...they hate GM
3. Tack Pack
4. Maro has more HP!!
5. Interior is wayyyyy better, even though camaro owners complain about it having more blind spots than a retiree in florida. And the guages are on the floor ???

So in the end, to each its own. Lets just be glad all three muscle cars are back...for now.

Well at least we know ONE of those three been around 46 years
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Hey guys and gals, why can't we all just get a long? Our economy is in dire straights right now so the best thing we can all do is buy american. We are a minority, especially when we're are talking about muscle cars. We ladies and gentlemen are a dieing breed, so I know that this is a camaro web site and that we have several folks from other manufactures we are all in the same boat. I believe we all should pull together and use our resources and show the rest of the U.S. that there are still die hard americans who believe in the cars that we drive. Having said everything, I have allways owned a camaro. I have the utmost respect for anyone who purchases an auto made from the U.S. I know I'm going to catch a lot of flak from the ricer builders in the United States because they employ a lot of americans, but does anybody else know that there are several countries out there that limit the amount of cars we're are allowed to sell in those countries? Their are no limits on any foreign vehicle sales here in the U.S. Having said all that I have, I emplore people to go out and look at the new cars that are available and just take them for a test drive. I assure everyone that the auto manufactures in the U.S are stepping it up a notch. Plesae give them a chance, just test drive them.
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I purposely did not make a list of things that the Mustang does better. I want to hear a better debate than just "it has more HP"

About the Civics and SUV's - Nope, the supercharged 3.8L has a proven track record and pulls very strong. Oh, and it's a GM.

You say this isn't the place for me, but it is. This is the best place to learn about the Camaro. It's just hard to filter out what is real and what is "Camaro Fever".
You love mixing words don't you. Anyways there is no "better" debate, you compare cars on their price, quality, performance, and durability. So this thread is pointless. And i dont know why i have to keep repeating it but the answer to your question...

Question: "Why not the 2010 Mustang?"
Answer: Because when you compare all the stats the Camaro comes out on top (you said you did your research so i shouldn't have to go over the specs with you or why the camaro comes out on top)

I'm not all for GM, i accept all American cars and try to pick the best value and for 2010 the Camaro is the best value based on proven facts.
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Sigh* here we go again. Of course we can state all of the things the mustang does compare to a SS, but of course it will be..

1. Track pack
2. Mag was paid by Ford...they hate GM
3. Tack Pack
4. Maro has more HP!!
5. Interior is wayyyyy better, even though camaro owners complain about it having more blind spots than a retiree in florida. And the guages are on the floor ???

So in the end, to each its own. Lets just be glad all three muscle cars are back...for now.

Well at least we know ONE of those three been around 46 years
To be fair the gauges are not the kind of gauges you actually need to stare at. They are there for show, I guess for the passenger.

The Mustang DEFINITELY compares to the Camaro. They're both pretty close but in full out power the Camaro edges out the Mustang, while in handling the track pack GT edges out the Camaro. Nothing wrong with that.

They are both closely fair in price when equipped comparably and they both shine in their own light!
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You love mixing words don't you. Anyways there is no other debate, you compare cars on their price, performance, and durability. So this thread is pointless. And i dont know why i have to keep repeating it but the answer to your questions...

Question: "Why not the 2010 Mustang?"
Answer Because when you compare all the stats the Camaro comes out on top (you said you did your research so i shouldnt have to go over the specs with you or why the camaro comes out on top)

I'm not all for GM, i accept all American cars and try to pick the best value and for 2010 the Camaro is the best value base on proven facts.
Base on proven facts that scew towards the camaro. Another mags says quite different. Ahh yes..thats right. They do not count because they were paid off by Ford.

Well said Death. I will not deny the Camaro is a hell of a deal. It is indeed a great package, and when the crazy dealer stuff stops, it will be a good buy.
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