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Old 10-05-2012, 05:55 PM   #1
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Bird poop stains.

Thanks to everyone for their advice on how to handle my obsession (see my last thread). I'm going to drive the wheels off it from now on.

On another note, does anyone know a way to get out the stains that bird droppings leave, even after it's washed?
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:57 PM   #2
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If the bird poop is on there a long time the uric acid in the poop will etch the paint. A few passes with a PC and some SHR should fix it.
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After you get stain out with compound

I carry a bottle of turtle ice with me. Any time i see a dropping , spray and wripe.
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Yeah once you get it out, some detail spray will come in real handy. Also, a good wax or sealant (ie http://www.autogeek.net/blackfire-we...d-sealant.html) will help stop stains from etching into the paint, as well as making cleaning your car a lot easier!
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If the bird poop is on there a long time the uric acid in the poop will etch the paint. A few passes with a PC and some SHR should fix it.
What are PC and SHR......?
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What are PC and SHR......?
PC = Port Cable random orbital polisher

SHR = Adams's Polishes: Swirl and Haze Remover
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Do not use orbital polisher , too easy to create swirl marks. Find a good compound that is gel coat safe and do by hand. It may take a little while to remove stain , but if paint is not damaged , it will come out.
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Do not use orbital polisher , too easy to create swirl marks. Find a good compound that is gel coat safe and do by hand. It may take a little while to remove stain , but if paint is not damaged , it will come out.
TOTALLY INCORRECT!!

Use the right products and the right DUAL action polisher and you will almost never have any problems.

You might want to check this out:

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I have very little experience detailing and all that. Anything outside of washing and wiping down is way out of my comfort zone. I'm afraid I'd do more harm than good. Are there reputable places in my area that handle this type of detailing? I'm in Fairfax, VA. I've been googling detailing places, but none seem to have much experience in this. I'm willing to pay for it, but I'd like it to come out good.
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I have very little experience detailing and all that. Anything outside of washing and wiping down is way out of my comfort zone. I'm afraid I'd do more harm than good. Are there reputable places in my area that handle this type of detailing? I'm in Fairfax, VA. I've been googling detailing places, but none seem to have much experience in this. I'm willing to pay for it, but I'd like it to come out good.
MYDLIFECRISIS, if you would like, I can make it very easy for you. I could honestly make a video specifically for you. It would cost about the same for you to buy a dual action polisher and some compound, as it would to go to a detailer.

The reason for the high cost is that any detailer worth his salt would have to compound and polish any whole panel that the bird etching is in. It isn't hard, but I suspect the charge would be around 150.

You could buy yourself a PC, some pads, and some compound and polish and do it yourself for around 180 or so. And in the future, you would never have to go the detailer should something happen.

I actually just started using my PC about a month ago, and feel very comfortable with it now. It is EXTREMELY easy to use.

I will seriously make a video for you if you would like, and I guarantee you will feel comfortable doing it yourself.

Let me know.


Of course, if the detailer is still something you want, then go ahead. I'm here to help, not to tell you what to do
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Old 10-06-2012, 12:11 PM   #12
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MYDLIFECRISIS, if you would like, I can make it very easy for you. I could honestly make a video specifically for you. It would cost about the same for you to buy a dual action polisher and some compound, as it would to go to a detailer.

The reason for the high cost is that any detailer worth his salt would have to compound and polish any whole panel that the bird etching is in. It isn't hard, but I suspect the charge would be around 150.

You could buy yourself a PC, some pads, and some compound and polish and do it yourself for around 180 or so. And in the future, you would never have to go the detailer should something happen.

I actually just started using my PC about a month ago, and feel very comfortable with it now. It is EXTREMELY easy to use.

I will seriously make a video for you if you would like, and I guarantee you will feel comfortable doing it yourself.

Let me know.
that's pretty high IMO for one panel. If he just wanted one panel prepped and polished out, that'd be like $50-75 at the most to do a waterless wash, quick clay, and 2 stage polish.

But I do agree with you, better to make the investment and learn to do it yourself.

You will not hurt the paint with a PC unless you're trying to. It's a perfect machine to learn on.
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that's pretty high IMO for one panel. If he just wanted one panel prepped and polished out, that'd be like $50-75 at the most to do a waterless wash, quick clay, and 2 stage polish.

But I do agree with you, better to make the investment and learn to do it yourself.

You will not hurt the paint with a PC unless you're trying to. It's a perfect machine to learn on.
It could be, I was just guestimating. OP, CD07 above is a professional, so he would know prices better than I.

However, you should note, that both of us recommend doing it yourself
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It could be, I was just guestimating. OP, CD07 above is a professional, so he would know prices better than I.

However, you should note, that both of us recommend doing it yourself
Would love a video...I am mechanically inclined, so maybe I'm just scared because I've never done it. I would appreciate any effort on your part my friend.
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I let a turd sit on the hood of my beautiful black '82 Camaro because I did not know that three days worth of sitting there could cause a problem... and I was busy. When I DID wipe that thing off, the clearcoat was gone, gone, gone... left me with a silver dollar- sized reminder to never let that happen again. It turned into a repaint- the- hood issue.

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Would love a video...I am mechanically inclined, so maybe I'm just scared because I've never done it. I would appreciate any effort on your part my friend.
I was in the same situation, a bit scared to do it because I've never done it before although I am generally good at picking things up. While I will use Optimum Hyper Compound because I already have it, you can use any compound you like. However, I do recommend OHC (although it is rather expensive).

My car is already pretty much perfect so no need to do it on mine... so now I am on the hunt for a proper test vehicle. I will keep you updated.
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Would love a video...I am mechanically inclined, so maybe I'm just scared because I've never done it. I would appreciate any effort on your part my friend.
You need to watch Junkmans video on detailing posted above. You may find a professional to do the job, but it still may not be done properly. Honestly, the PC is really safe and the products are easy to use. There is really nothing to fear and once the supplies are purchased if something happens to your paint again you're only out your time and effort.
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You need to watch Junkmans video on detailing posted above. You may find a professional to do the job, but it still may not be done properly. Honestly, the PC is really safe and the products are easy to use. There is really nothing to fear and once the supplies are purchased if something happens to your paint again you're only out your time and effort.
I agree Junkman has good videos, although they are a bit long. OP, it will be a good starting point for you.

I would also look up Mike Phillips videos on youtube. Imagine Junkman as a serious, no nonsense detailer and you have Mike Phillips: informative, helpful, and to the point.
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Thanks to all your guys help.
It just shows you that everybody at home can do this without taking it to a detail shop.
2 weeks ago I did not think I would be capable of doing a project like this.
Thanks to everybody's input and step by step directions I managed to get my car back the way it was 4 weeks ago.
Extremely pleased with the end results.
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I have very little experience detailing and all that. Anything outside of washing and wiping down is way out of my comfort zone. I'm afraid I'd do more harm than good. Are there reputable places in my area that handle this type of detailing? I'm in Fairfax, VA. I've been googling detailing places, but none seem to have much experience in this. I'm willing to pay for it, but I'd like it to come out good.
You need to watch this video series.

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Would love a video...I am mechanically inclined, so maybe I'm just scared because I've never done it. I would appreciate any effort on your part my friend.
In high definition.

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In general, using a Porter Cable (or some type of machine polisher) and a polishing compound will make quick work of mild stains. Some stains penetrate deeper into the clear coat than others, and may require more work. Some stains are so deep that you cannot safely remove them without compromising the clear and risking paint failure.

Meguiar's makes two EXCELLENT paint correction liquids that can be applied by hand, and while they will require a little bit of passion in the application, they can remove most mild etchings.

Start with Meguiar's Ultimate Compound, using a foam applicator and firm pressure. Work it, back and forth, over the spot until the stain has been removed or the product dries. If the stain is their after the product dries, add a little more and keep going. If the stain is their after 2-3 applications then it is likely a deep stain.

After using the Meguiar's Ultimate Compound, follow with Meguiar's Ultimate Polish, using a similar technique. Follow with your favorite wax or sealant.
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THANK YOU! To all who replied...I think I will try it myself...wish me luck, I'm gonna need it!
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THANK YOU! To all who replied...I think I will try it myself...wish me luck, I'm gonna need it!
Nice, glad you're going to do it yourself! What kit are you going to buy?
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