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Old 10-08-2012, 01:59 PM   #51
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The Camaro Abused thread maybe closed on C5, but it's on dozens of other forums.
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:02 PM   #52
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Since I don't work for GM, or get paid to work on this site. I (or the rest of the moderation team that have real jobs to attend to) will get to your complaints as soon as I (we) can.

There are days that I just love being a volunteer...
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:02 PM   #53
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The Camaro Abused thread maybe closed on C5, but it's on dozens of other forums.

Yeah I saw that!!
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:03 PM   #54
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Since I don't work for GM, or get paid to work on this site. I (or the rest of the moderation team that have real jobs to attend to) will get to your complaints as soon as I (we) can.

There are days that I just love being a volunteer...
Haha at one point I wanted to be a mod on this site, but with everything y'all have to put up with-- yeah, there's NO way. Many of y'all do a lot of good, though, and plenty of us love you I don't think anyone's trying to say mods get paid or blame you for this. I think a lot of people are curious to hear from Tran. I know I am.

I hope they aren't coming at you.
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:04 PM   #55
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I'm waiting now that this has been moved to feedback... ten bucks says the admin will 'answer' your question, then lock this thread.

I hope this thread stay open even if the orginal question gets answered. Everone be NICE not to offend anyone.

This thread is more about accountability. Can I come on here as a sponsor and sell caned air and claim that it converts a 1LT into a 2SS and have all threads disputing my claims be closed as not to have anyone figure me out.

If so Im not upset that in two years of owning my Camaro it have not tranformed one single time as in (whats that movie).

I dont believed the tape was altered so whats the problem with notifing others in bad practice.
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:05 PM   #56
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Wow ! Are you saying we do not have real Jobs?????
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:06 PM   #57
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Wow ! Are you saying we do not have real Jobs?????
You are grasping at straws there. He didn't say anything of the sort. He said they have real jobs to attend to. This is not their job. They don't get paid. They volunteer to help. The only person who makes actual money off this site is Tran.

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Old 10-08-2012, 02:08 PM   #58
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You are grasping at straws there. He didn't say anything of the sort. He said they have real jobs to attend to. This is not their job. They don't get paid. They volunteer to help. The only person who makes actual money off this site is Tran.

C'mon.
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I (or the rest of the moderation team that have real jobs to attend to) will get to your complaints as soon as I (we) can.

I apologize if I took that wrong.
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:10 PM   #60
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I'm not going to speak out of place here.. But as someone who has never gotten a warning or ban on this site.

Closing of that thread is rediculous. It did not break rules IMHO. It's not like it was political or porn. Or bashing a member.

This was a legitimate issue that needs to be addressed by the dealership or GM because GM is the one who honors warranty claims / pays the dealership for warranty repairs.

My only guess to close it was because someone / this site is getting paid by a party and it was requested to be removed to keep "their end of the contract"
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I'm not going to speak out of place here.. But as someone who has never gotten a warning or ban on this site.

Closing of that thread is rediculous. It did not break rules IMHO. It's not like it was political or porn. Or bashing a member.

This was a legitimate issue that needs to be addressed by the dealership or GM because GM is the one who honors warranty claims / pays the dealership for warranty repairs.

My only guess to close it was because someone / this site is getting paid by a party and it was requested to be removed to keep "their end of the contract"
You've never gotten a warning?? WTF.

You're way worse than me and I've gotten two warnings.
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I expect we will not get a clear answer...because I expect Cam5 is, indeed, in bed with GM.

Someone said that a positive of that is the forum gives you a voice GM would have otherwise not heard. Well, not if that voice is quickly silenced.

The member who posted up the original thread had a legitimate issue with a GM dealer. The ONLY reason Cam5 mods would close said thread would be their contractual obligation to silence any negative postings and/or comments about GM as quickly and efficiently as possible.

If this were not the case, why not let people post? With the national attention this is getting, it could catapult the site into the national spotlight with news media potentially quoting members of the forum in support of the member in question. But NO. Rather than do the right thing, the mods have decided to brush this member's issues under the rug and turn the other cheek.

It's sickening to say the least because we are still expected to support this site, but the site refuses to do the same for us.

I've been saying for a long time that the censorship here is running absolutely rampant, but this is, by far, the biggest act of I've seen since I've been on here.

Either bring back the original, legitimate thread, and get off GM's nuts, or put a disclaimer up saying "Welcome to Camaro5....sponsored by GM. No negative comments/threads about GM or GM dealerships will be tolerated."

I'm disappointed..and more than a little .
Just to play devil's advocate for a minute, if this were true, why did they only LOCK the tread instead of deleting it? If they were trying to hide or silence it, why is it still there? Why not delete it entirely? It is still there, all that was said is still visible here on the forum. Although I can't say I really agree with it, I think they they probably locked it (possibly just temporarily according to one mod) before it got totally derailed and turned into YouTube style posts with rediculously bad language, name calling, and useless prattle. Just look at some of the responses posted there and you'll see what I mean.

Like I said, if they were trying to hide it, why not delete it so it is no longer visible rather than just locking it from further posts? I'm sure as the OP gets more info, or more resolve, he can make a new post with that information.

Now with that said, I feel bad for William (the OP) and really hope this gets resolved for him. I did see a post on one of the other sites from someone claiming to be a GM rep sending him a PM to talk to him about it. I hope so. I am happy that now, more than ever, consumers have more power. When something like this happens, within hours 100s of thousands or even millions of people can know about it. I'm sure the pressure is on that dealer now to do the write thing a few grand (or whatever) for them to make it right is better than losing many thousands in potential customers.
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:16 PM   #63
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Just to play devil's advocate for a minute, if this were true, why did they only LOCK the tread instead of deleting it? If they were trying to hide or silence it, why is it still there? Why not delete it entirely? It is still there, all that was said is still visible here on the forum. Although I can't say I really agree with it, I think they they probably locked it (possibly just temporarily according to one mod) before it got totally derailed and turned into YouTube style posts with rediculously bad language, name calling, and useless prattle. Just look at some of the responses posted there and you'll see what I mean.

Like I said, if they were trying to hide it, why not delete it so it is no longer visible rather than just locking it from further posts? I'm sure as the OP gets more info, or more resolve, he can make a new post with that information.

Now with that said, I feel bad for William (the OP) and really hope this gets resolved for him. I did see a post on one of the other sites from someone claiming to be a GM rep sending him a PM to talk to him about it. I hope so. I am happy that now, more than ever, consumers have more power. When something like this happens, within hours 100s of thousands or even millions of people can know about it. I'm sure the pressure is on that dealer now to do the write thing a few grand (or whatever) for them to make it right is better than losing many thousands in potential customers.

it's not deleted because it is being linked back from several sites, including jalopnik, deleting it would break those links..

locking it IMO makes sense though, otherwise hundreds if not thousands of non-Camaro owners with come here and sign up just to post their 2 cents into the thread..
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You're way worse than me and I've gotten two warnings.
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:19 PM   #65
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I expect we will not get a clear answer...because I expect Cam5 is, indeed, in bed with GM.
Why not just ask the question directly in this forum? In the name of transparency, surely you would get your answer.
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it's not deleted because it is being linked back from several sites, including jalopnik, deleting it would break those links..

locking it IMO makes sense though, otherwise hundreds if not thousands of non-Camaro owners with come here and sign up just to post their 2 cents into the thread..
Agreed, that was somewhat my point. If other wanted to "cover it up" they probably would just delete it. Like you said, they probably just locked it before it got out of control "YouTube comment style".
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:25 PM   #67
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I have an awesome google chrome extension that turns all youtube comments into herp derp derp.

Sometimes it would come in handy here

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...hebainmfbipjoh
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Sorry but that's the most messed up thing I've ever seen, and that thread DESERVED to stay open. I see no reason for it to be closed, legal or otherwise. Plus, that video has gone viral and the story is being reported from gminsidenews to jalopnik. Why close it?
Yahoo News picked it up.
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I am happy that now, more than ever, consumers have more power. When something like this happens, within hours 100s of thousands or even millions of people can know about it.
I agree that consumers have more power and that's a good thing. The downside of all this is that privacy, in todays world, has become a luxury not a right. And although I agree with most who have posted here, we need to be careful not to judge to quickly and of not becoming a lynch mob society. As I said earlier, there will be innocent people, as well as the guilty, who will suffer too. Like spouses, children, reputations, etc.
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I have an awesome google chrome extension that turns all youtube comments into herp derp derp.

Sometimes it would come in handy here
That's hilarious.......
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Wow! http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/motorami...152707580.html
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If the mod did it just to keep it from getting out of control it had a side effect of burying it and stop awareness of the issue unless a search is done. Maybe the last post on the thread could have said that and there would not have been so much questions of cencorship.
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Well then, feel free to un-volunteer yourself?

I'm glad you guys have "real" jobs to attend to since the rest of us don't and aren't making the time to post on something we deem important, right?

Really C5? Someone with this attitude is who you want representing you?

You SURE?
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Wow ! Are you saying we do not have real Jobs?????
To me, this is how it came across.
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Yahoo News picked it up.
I saw that. Pandora's Box and the Can of Worms have been opened......
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