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Old 10-10-2012, 10:01 PM   #1
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Camaro SS vs. Subaru WRX STI

Hey guys for my Camaro all i have is a flowmasters 20, and upgraded intake. My friend has a WRX STI i know they are all wheel drive so i was wondering how would it go from a 40 roll or dead stop?

I have a 2010 SS he has a 2011 STI

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Old 10-10-2012, 10:40 PM   #2
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No competition. They are slow from a roll, about the same speed as bolt on manual LLT V6 camaro(not calling it slow, just slow relative to your SS).
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Old 10-10-2012, 10:41 PM   #3
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What year STi? Any mods done to it?
If it's stock (any year), you will have no issues beating it from a roll. Even lightly modified STi's (stage 1) should be no problem for you when going from a roll.
However, a good STi driver from a dead stop will give you problems...even stock cars. The late model version (2008+) will definitely give you issues.
STi's are mean cars from a stop but they don't have the horsepower on the top end to pull away at higher speeds. The 6-speed transmission gear ratios are very short too, which makes the driver have to shift constantly when racing in a straight line.
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Old 10-10-2012, 11:04 PM   #4
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If your SS runs like the 2011 SS I test drove you are toast, if it runs like my 2012 SS . Honestly I think an STI with even stage 1 mod will hang.
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You're toast from a roll and a stop. And yes, I'm pretty knowledgable on the fact You'll have a better chnace if it's a 2008+, but it won't be pretty.
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Old 10-11-2012, 12:27 AM   #6
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I have a 2010 SS he has a 2011 STI
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:34 AM   #7
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A stock 2011 STI with a good driver will run mid/low 13's, and mid/high 12's with basic bolt ons. The STI's advantage is the launch and the Camaro's is horsepower.
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Old 10-11-2012, 07:23 AM   #8
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A stock 2011 STI with a good driver will run mid/low 13's, and mid/high 12's with basic bolt ons. The STI's advantage is the launch and the Camaro's is horsepower.
In my neck of the woods that's more like high to mid 13s. But what ever the case may be they aren't that slow like others on here make them seen.
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Old 10-11-2012, 10:00 AM   #9
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You're toast from a roll and a stop. And yes, I'm pretty knowledgable on the fact You'll have a better chnace if it's a 2008+, but it won't be pretty.
im not sure if your kidding or not b/c he has a SS the STI would be the one losing since its stock and the OP has small hp adders on. To the OP you will win definately from a roll as for a dead stop you need to launch well
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Old 10-11-2012, 10:03 AM   #10
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Old 10-11-2012, 10:31 AM   #11
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camaro wins IMO.
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Old 10-11-2012, 10:35 AM   #12
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sti will take you unless the drivers a newb. I've watched this same exact race from a dig and 35 roll.
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Old 10-11-2012, 11:37 AM   #13
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Friend had a stage 2 2010 sti- exhaust downpipe intake bov tune lowering spring and sway bars, and i have a 2011 camaro ss L99 with exhaust and intake. He will take you off the line untill about 50 then you have him. From a roll about 40 or 50 you will kill him by about 6 or 7 car lengths. They are very quick off the line and handle very well, but even stage 2 stis fall apart after 50 or 60.
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Old 10-11-2012, 12:12 PM   #14
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If your SS runs like the 2011 SS I test drove you are toast, if it runs like my 2012 SS . Honestly I think an STI with even stage 1 mod will hang.
?? That doesn't make sense since there is no performance changes from a 2010,2011,2012,2013 SS ??
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:41 AM   #15
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I ve had this exact race with my cousin who owns an STi with stage 1 mods. At the drags he ll always pull a car lenght or two off the launch. And about the 1/8 mile mark ill always reel him in and pull about two car lenghts by the end of the 1/4mile. Our times are always within 2 tenths of second. And from a roll my SS will take the STi every time no matter what speed were starting from.
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Old 10-12-2012, 12:26 PM   #16
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?? That doesn't make sense since there is no performance changes from a 2010,2011,2012,2013 SS ??
No, L99Cama has a special '12 model that was specifically made to beat '11 model year Camaros and all Subarus.
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Old 10-12-2012, 03:17 PM   #17
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No, L99Cama has a special '12 model that was specifically made to beat '11 model year Camaros and all Subarus.
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Old 10-12-2012, 03:42 PM   #18
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It really depends on the color of the Camaro. If it is white watch the F^&k out...
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Old 10-12-2012, 08:09 PM   #19
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I had a 2008 sti with full bolts ons it is a rocket from a dead stop, after 100mph it fell on its face!
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Old 10-12-2012, 09:43 PM   #20
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hell no. STI's are slow from a roll.....real slow. i raced one in 5th gear (last gear) starting from 65 and he as in 4th...i pulled on him. you should smoke him from a 40 roll. dig...driver mod!
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Old 10-13-2012, 10:19 AM   #21
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I also owned an STi. (dog slow from a roll - stock).

So stock Camaro SS vs. stock STi (Camaro big winner from a roll).
From a dig (STi gets the jump with Camaro SS catching and passing the STi around 80-90mph).

In stock form, STi's are slow above 80mph or so (V6 Accord slow - ask me how I know?)
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Roll racing eh? Didn't mean to click on the neon srt forums.
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Roll racing eh? Didn't mean to click on the neon srt forums.

Unfortunately, roll racing is hugely popular in the street communities (even though most of it is illegal).
There are some legal roll racing tracks/spots around.

I watched some vids of legal roll racing done on abandoned air strips. I have to say it was pretty cool to watch.

But I'm a drag racer and my car is set up to go from a dig (where you have to launch the car off the line). That's more fun and requires a well setup car.

And as you mentioned. Lots of cars that suck at launching off the line prefer to race from a roll (Neons, etc usually FWD).
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I also owned an STi. (dog slow from a roll - stock).

So stock Camaro SS vs. stock STi (Camaro big winner from a roll).
From a dig (STi gets the jump with Camaro SS catching and passing the STi around 80-90mph).

In stock form, STi's are slow above 80mph or so (V6 Accord slow - ask me how I know?)
Was that you ? Haha I used to own a V6 6-speed Accord Coupe.... and I know what you speak of.
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A lot of people here will throw the STi under the bus simply because it's an import. Think about it this way: Lightweight, 305hp with FI, AWD, and a close ratio box. It was designed for acceleration, not top speed. After 100, they lose their potentcy because they are well into 5th gear. I've had both of my cars at Bandimere, and the STi is faster, plain and simple. Not to mention, the STi takes almost no skill to get off the line, the launch control doesn't break stuff either. Don't even try if there are twisties too.
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