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Old 10-10-2012, 10:16 PM   #1
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2012 ss vs 6.1 300

My friend is about to get a Chrysler 300 (6.1L) . I have headers and muffler deletr who will have a better 1/4?
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Old 10-10-2012, 11:29 PM   #2
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Couple months ago we a few of us were at the track playing with one of my buddies 2010 Z06 automatic.Between 4 of us NO ONE was able to get out of the 12's.

I believe torque managnent was killing us that night, when launching the car would take off and fall flat on it's face.
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Old 10-11-2012, 10:32 AM   #3
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yea you'll beat him the 300's are very nice, but way to heavy
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Old 10-11-2012, 11:25 AM   #4
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What do they weigh, 300 lbs more than a Camaro? That's a fat guy in your pass seat. Power to weight ratio is close, although with your headers you will be fine unless you screw up a shift.
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i just have to get my start everything els i do great. i was thinking the same thing 4200 to 3800 without anyone in it.
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Old 10-11-2012, 10:27 PM   #6
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What do they weigh, 300 lbs more than a Camaro? That's a fat guy in your pass seat. Power to weight ratio is close, although with your headers you will be fine unless you screw up a shift.
thats still a pretty big difference when your comparing a car with more power to one with less and more weight
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:11 AM   #7
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This 6.1 SRT8 ? Hemi's are much much overrated.... This statement is not only based on experience running into a few, but also driving more then a few LX platform cars equipped with the 5.7. LSx is in a completely different league.



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Old 10-12-2012, 10:50 AM   #8
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Not to burst you bubble but a 6.1 challenger with just a cai/tune runs mid 12s. I know I race him all the time and even drove the car. Those hemis like mods.
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Old 10-12-2012, 03:10 PM   #9
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You can find published reviews of those 300c's pulling down 4.7 0-60's and 13.2 second 1/4's bone stock, from way back in 2005. They are not slow cars.
But you should still beat him. Just don't get caught napping.

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Old 10-12-2012, 05:43 PM   #10
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This 6.1 SRT8 ? Hemi's are much much overrated
the guy in that video cant drive
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Old 10-12-2012, 06:49 PM   #11
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the guy in that video cant drive
Agreed, considering I slowly pulled on a g37s in my 12' r/t.
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chrysler 300 C SRT (I had one) 4200 lbs curb weight, the Challenger is a few hundred pounds lighter.. the 6.1L shouldn't be much of a contest, the newer 6.4L however will be tough to beat..
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lol... Maybe I should cherry pick all the " Camaro SS" videos that run 14's @ Gainesville.. I even had some lady come up to me and said " I would embarrass her" because she can't break 14.xx in her camaro>. i ask if it was a v6... She said no... "SS"
I told her it was her driving and not the car..
oh... here is my slow 6.1 @ Gainesville on a 5.0
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lol... Maybe I should cherry pick all the " Camaro SS" videos that run 14's @ Gainesville.. I even had some lady come up to me and said " I would embarrass her" because she can't break 14.xx in her camaro>. i ask if it was a v6... She said no... "SS"
I told her it was her driving and not the car..
oh... here is my slow 6.1 @ Gainesville on a 5.0
Yes, I run high 12's low 13's in this Florida DA
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buddy of mine has pretty much the same mods, same car, and can drive...and i put it to him several times, never lost...was closer than id like though lol

i have intake, HF cats. muffler delete.
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chrysler 300 C SRT (I had one) 4200 lbs curb weight, the Challenger is a few hundred pounds lighter.. the 6.1L shouldn't be much of a contest, the newer 6.4L however will be tough to beat..


The Challenger weighs 4100 pounds. It's about the same weight as the 300c, and is about the same speed. Neither is a slouch.
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:33 AM   #16
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Agreed, considering I slowly pulled on a g37s in my 12' r/t.
? I steadily pulled on an 11' R/T in my G35.....
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:14 AM   #17
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? I steadily pulled on an 11' R/T in my G35.....
Did he know he was racing? New r/t's are good for low 13's. Almost on par with the L99 I used to have. Maybe you ran into 05-09 r/t.
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Did he know he was racing? New r/t's are good for low 13's. Almost on par with the L99 I used to have. Maybe you ran into 05-09 r/t.
Yeah and here's his best timeslip after 12 runs tonight.... It's an '11 6-speed with electronic cutouts and Injen cai. The DA was 2316. He has owned it for over a year. The right times were his.



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Old 10-13-2012, 08:23 AM   #19
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This 6.1 SRT8 ? Hemi's are much much overrated.... This statement is not only based on experience running into a few, but also driving more then a few LX platform cars equipped with the 5.7. LSx is in a completely different league.
A GenIII Hemi won this years (2012) Engine Masters Challenge in the Street Division. 675 hp from 417 cubic inches. For those who don't know how it works the contest is area under the curve, not peak power or torque (curve area per displacement). I think in street division the rpm limit is 6500. 2nd place was a GenI Hemi making 607 hp from 385 inches (that's right a '50s era based engine).

In 2011 a Cleveland Ford won, making 686 hp from 435 cu.in. The 2nd place engine was an LSx Chevy making 593 hp from 334 inches.

In 2010 a GenIII Hemi won (700 hp from 417 inches). This engine had the best area under the curve for it's displacement but also had the most peak hp of all engines including some 430 inchish Cleveland Fords, BBCs, SBCs and LSx's.

I think the best GenIII Hemi head (6.1/6.4) will flow with the best LSx heads (LS7) either unported or ported. Anyone who thinks the LSx is in a different league than the GenIII Hemi has no clue what they are talking about.
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Yeah and here's his best timeslip after 12 runs tonight.... It's an '11 6-speed with electronic cutouts and Injen cai. The DA was 2316. He has owned it for over a year. The right times were his.



-I didn't run because my car is having a Clutch Masters FX300 Clutch Kit being put in.
Terrible times. Here is a 13.3 run link after a quick search: http://www.chargerforumz.com/showthr...t=93285&page=7

post #62. Im sure high 12's may be possible with the right driver and conditions. Also, the charger has a 5-speed auto, not a 6-speed.
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:06 PM   #21
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The new srt8s move for their size....mid 12s. The awd rts are low 13s and rwd are mid 13s. If tuning gets announced at sema there will be a lot of them in the high 12s. Right now my mopar 11 is around 13 flat...but that is due to the factory 3.91s.
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An 08-10 SRT8 Challenger weighs 4140 with sunroof, kicker and automatic. With a manual, no sunroof or Kicker they weigh 4040'ish. At least mine did stock. But it only weighs 3600 now and still has full interior, roll cage, ac, nav, etc.

The 11-12's SRT8's picked up a few pounds and tips the scales at a bit over 4200#'s depending on options.

Anyhow, OP should have no problem with the 300C. Just dont get caught at the light because those are very easy to launch.
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