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Old 03-20-2014, 03:12 PM   #201
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Good thing digital cameras didn't exist yet when I was growing up or else I'd be in jail for all the stuff I didn't do. No pics taken of it yet.
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Old 03-22-2014, 05:46 PM   #202
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So the DTC-30's left a fair amount of pad deposits on a slow/cold track day driving at about 60%, pretty disappointed. Finishing the duct install this week finally to help with temps.


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I am changing course on my ducting....If anyone is looking for brand new Quantum brake duct backing plates or a complete kit see the link in my sig.

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I am changing course on my ducting....If anyone is looking for brand new Quantum brake duct backing plates or a complete kit see the link in my sig.
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Old 03-22-2014, 09:04 PM   #205
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So the DTC-30's left a fair amount of pad deposits on a slow/cold track day driving at about 60%, pretty disappointed. Finishing the duct install this week finally to help with temps.
I tried the DTC-30 and they were terrible. Wrong pad for track use.

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Old 03-22-2014, 09:33 PM   #206
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Yeah I bought them a year ago before I deployed, at that point there were a few ppl claiming success with them. Apparently they drove slow...? I dunno, but they suck. I don't understand how JDP says they work so well for them. I'll probably do XR1/XR3. Not sure if I can get another track day out of these, there's enough pad material but I don't trust them at all. It'll cost me more in the long run if they ruin my rotors and I kept cringing at the end of the straight hoping they wouldn't crap out on me.
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Old 03-22-2014, 09:49 PM   #207
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For now just install my new 6-pistons calipers and 2 piece rotors with my old brake ducts dumps from last year and then figure something out after my first event in April!
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For now just install my new 6-pistons calipers and 2 piece rotors with my old brake ducts dumps from last year and then figure something out after my first event in April!
Aside from the XR CF pads, the OEM CTS-V pads worked quite well with the CTS-V six pots. What I am not sure of is if the ZL1 six pot pads are the same compound as the CTS-V. My guess is they are and will perform better than many after market pads.
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Old 03-23-2014, 09:09 AM   #209
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CTS-V and ZL1 factory pads are the same part numbers. Don't have it right now but will post if needed.


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Old 03-24-2014, 11:46 AM   #210
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Aside from the XR CF pads, the OEM CTS-V pads worked quite well with the CTS-V six pots. What I am not sure of is if the ZL1 six pot pads are the same compound as the CTS-V. My guess is they are and will perform better than many after market pads.
Agreed. I am going with the stock CTS-V / ZL1 pads to start and then go form there.
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I bought HPS pads but wish I had gotten the stock Brembo pads. The next set will be...

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I was curious to the air flow through the brake cooling ducts.
So I brought home an anemometer (air flow meter) from work and performed the following, unscientific test.

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Old 03-28-2014, 07:42 AM   #213
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I was curious to the air flow through the brake cooling ducts.
So I brought home an anemometer (air flow meter) from work and performed the following, unscientific test.
Awesome, dude. I was guessing maybe 30-40% loss due to all those curves but it looks like the funneling of air at the mouth might be making up for that. Thank you for posting. I always wondered about this. Now we know.
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Awesome, dude. I was guessing maybe 30-40% loss due to all those curves but it looks like the funneling of air at the mouth might be making up for that. Thank you for posting. I always wondered about this. Now we know.
+1...makes me feel a lot better. Thanks
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Old 03-28-2014, 06:01 PM   #215
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I was curious to the air flow through the brake cooling ducts.
So I brought home an anemometer (air flow meter) from work and performed the following, unscientific test.


This is what I like to see! No guessing. No assumptions. Just good old, actual data…

The next thing I would suggest is taking rotor temps. I ducted mine from the fogs and found ~ a 15% reduction on spirited canyon runs. Of course that won't stop anyone who hasn't even ducted from the fogs, let alone actually taken measurements, tell you it won't work, or not as good as from the lower grille.

One of the things I like about the fogs, is you can easily mask part, or all of them off.

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You're welcome!

Since I have this air meter at work, it really was not a big deal to perform this test. Plus, inquiring minds need to know.

Besides, it's the least I could do given all the great install info that I received from this thread.
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Old 03-30-2014, 11:16 AM   #218
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heres my brake duct build. i ordered the hose and the stainless screen. everything else i did myself. it took about three days. sorry, lots of pics.
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more pics. i wish i had taken a pic of the front of the car from a little distance. the look of that stainless screen looks trick as heck for cheap. im planning on using it more like if/when i make my hood ducts.
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^Hey that looks pretty cool. I did the same thing (check sig) but placed the screen over the bezel and painted it black. I really like how you were able to fab the stuff. I do what I can (mostly sheet metal & fastners), but I never learned to weld… : (
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Old 03-30-2014, 12:28 PM   #221
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Finished mine today too. A bit pinched due to my oil cooler lines and big radiator on the driver side but not too much and its away from all moving suspension components.

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thanks. i took it for a run on the street and it looks ok so far. fresh turned brake rotors and brand new pads. those lil spots on the rotors are just water that got on the rotors cause it was raining. i need to get the track wheels/tires on there for another run. they are wider and lower.
ive got sooo much to do in the next two weeks. i just got a trailer. i have to practice loading, trailering and unloading the car. i have to install a brake box on my truck to control the trailer brakes. flush the radiator, empty the catch can, clean out vararam, make a gopro mount to go on the new cage thats in the way of the old gopro mount. then on the 12th of april, i tow 13 hours one way the first trip outta the box to sebring. this is my first trip to sebring and i just found out that i have two students to work with while trying to learn the track myself. ill have to go out with the race cars for the first session of the day to get enough laps hopefully to not sound retarded to my students on their first run. pray for steve mcqueen to help me on this trip.
oh and i just changed the drivers seat position because at the first run at road atlanta a few weeks ago, it was almost undriveable because i had the seat angle too straight and with my helmet on, it pointed my head at the floor. being a dumb redneck is a very interesting life.
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Finished mine today too. A bit pinched due to my oil cooler lines and big radiator on the driver side but not too much and its away from all moving suspension components.
Looks good Synner. From pic you did not route it through sway bar, right?

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ive got sooo much to do in the next two weeks. i just got a trailer. i have to practice loading, trailering and unloading the car. i have to install a brake box on my truck to control the trailer brakes. flush the radiator, empty the catch can, clean out vararam, make a gopro mount to go on the new cage thats in the way of the old gopro mount. then on the 12th of april, i tow 13 hours one way the first trip outta the box to sebring. this is my first trip to sebring and i just found out that i have two students to work with while trying to learn the track myself. ill have to go out with the race cars for the first session of the day to get enough laps hopefully to not sound retarded to my students on their first run. pray for steve mcqueen to help me on this trip.
oh and i just changed the drivers seat position because at the first run at road atlanta a few weeks ago, it was almost undriveable because i had the seat angle too straight and with my helmet on, it pointed my head at the floor. being a dumb redneck is a very interesting life.
Starting to trailer, huh Johnson? I am starting to wonder what happens the first time I do some serious damage on the track. Would be nice to get it back home. Your trailer have antisway? Seen some scary videos of what can happen at speed with a loaded trailer

Sebring sounds like it'll be fun. You should watch some videos to get prepared before you go - at least so you can get the track in your head.

What seats are you running now?
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Looks good Synner. From pic you did not route it through sway bar, right?
Correct. There won't be any suspension movement damage with the 3" tubing. Although its definitely tight this way.
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Starting to trailer, huh Johnson? I am starting to wonder what happens the first time I do some serious damage on the track. Would be nice to get it back home. Your trailer have antisway? Seen some scary videos of what can happen at speed with a loaded trailer

Sebring sounds like it'll be fun. You should watch some videos to get prepared before you go - at least so you can get the track in your head.

What seats are you running now?

its just a simple open wood low deck 18 foot dove tail. it has the heavy axles, 8 ply tires, a break-away brake system and extra long ramps. it should do a good job. it doesnt have any type of anti-sway that i know of. im old now but i used to drag a boat around all the time that was way bigger and longer than this.
my seat are the sparco sprint V. they are for medium to small drivers and they fit us great. they weight 17 pounds and are FIA rated. the new seat bracket seems good and the brakes are feeling good.
thanks to virus and all that put info in here. it was the source that i used for my duct project.
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