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Old 10-16-2012, 05:13 PM   #1
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manual ZL1

Hey guys, long time reader first time post! Anyways like most of you out there the ZL1 definitely caught my eye. That being said im now in the market to get one upon graduation in December 2012 (i no what timing damn winter). I went to my local chevy dealership in northern new jersey (widger chevy) and they had a summit white ZL1 with everything i want nav sunroof illuminated cupholders/footwells, microfiber inserts and a manual! that being said i currently drive an 07 trailblazer SS which i absolutely love with only 40,000 miles on it. The dealer said they would give me around $20,000- $23000 for the SS toward theZL1 which i think is not to bad of a deal. The reason the mileage is so low is because i didn't drive the SS my first two years in college because cars weren't allowed for under classmen. Now my question is i never drove a manual before, however i've been riding dirt bikes since i was seven so i understand the concept. Clutch in put in first raise rpms somewhat and slowly release clutch and off you go. However, is it that easy on the ZL1 meaning on my dirt bike i would shift into first like previously stated and from then on once i got going i would swiftly release the clutch when going into a higher gear without any "bucking" or anything like that. On the ZL1 once you shift into first can you release the clutch slighty faster when shifting into higher gears or should you always release the clutch just as slow as shifting into first. I really dont want to screw up the trans because the car is already expensive enough. Also, what about downshifting any advice on that? Basically my question is should i be scared of a manual in the zl1. Thanks in advance for all the help!
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Old 10-16-2012, 05:21 PM   #2
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Definitely get manual, there is NOTHING like it. Shifting is easy once you get the hang of it, but trust me get the manual!!!!!!!
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Old 10-16-2012, 05:25 PM   #3
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Welcome... give it two days and it's just like riding a bike... it will come natural and you won't even think about it. Also the ZL1 is very easy to shift.

If you daily drive in traffic or drag race then you might want to think Auto. They can order anything you want.
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Old 10-16-2012, 05:35 PM   #5
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I am an automatic person through and through. Mainly because I'm lazy when it comes to a car. The only reason I didn't get an automatic was the guzzler tax was 2600 not 1300 like with the manual. That being said now that I have the manual I am glad the tax is double on the automatic, or I would've had that. There is nothing like it whatsoever. It's easy to drive and or learn on. I have to teach my wife to drive stick and it won't be a problem, she's not the most coordinated person. the only thing I'm still getting used to is the hill assist. Mine has no rime or reason when it will apply. The adrenaline rush is unbelievable knowing you have total control of the car and not the computer.
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The ZL1 was my first manual purchase. Granted I've driven sticks before though. Before the Z, I'd always stall out during the learning curve of the car. I have stalled out the Z a grand total of 0 times. Easy car to learn on and the power is manageable. Hill assist is also a big plus lol...
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Old 10-16-2012, 05:40 PM   #7
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thank you for the answers. Im a fast learner and i wont think ill have to much of a problem once I get driving it for a couple of days. Also, whats the whole 1-4 shift ive been hearing about. As in you have to shift from 1 to 4 at times for some reason. i read it in the manual. One thing the ZL1 at the dealership has is the polished aluminum wheels i want the black ones! they have a convertible with the black wheels and i asked the sales if they could switch them for me. He said no but i feel like when its time to sign on the car hopefully they can do something. Im really leaning towards the manual now!
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Old 10-16-2012, 05:44 PM   #8
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Haha its funny how no one answered his main question ! lol


Well I have a Grand Cheerokee SRT8 and it only comes in automatic.
Though I have driven alot of manual cars before.

The thing is when getting ready to moev in the first great you leave the clutch slowly so that it doesn't stall out! after that moving gears form 2-3-4 etc it doens't really matter
when you are racing or driving aggresively you wanna shift quick and to do that you have to leave your clutch very quickly so that minmum lag in gear changes!

When Crusing what I usally do is Press the clutch , change gear, leave the clutch and then apply gas! This way its pretty smooth no jerks or anything!

Just getting out of the first gear is usually hard for new learners since usally people stall.
I learned the stick a couple of year ago to get my license! But I drive both sticks and autos all the time !
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Old 10-16-2012, 05:46 PM   #9
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thank you for the answers. Im a fast learner and i wont think ill have to much of a problem once I get driving it for a couple of days. Also, whats the whole 1-4 shift ive been hearing about. As in you have to shift from 1 to 4 at times for some reason. i read it in the manual. One thing the ZL1 at the dealership has is the polished aluminum wheels i want the black ones! they have a convertible with the black wheels and i asked the sales if they could switch them for me. He said no but i feel like when its time to sign on the car hopefully they can do something. Im really leaning towards the manual now!

I think what you mean is the skip-shift thing, I am not really fully aware of it ! But I think it locks you out when shifting and you are forced to shift into the 4th gear.

And I have no idea if its jsut for automatics or manuals.
In my '12 camry I have this very shitty feature, you leave stop light with aggresive accelerations and it geos from 1..2....3 and all of a sudden in 5 :S
and it makes me want to smack my car with a hammer. Very annoying.
though I am not sure if its excalty the skip shift thing.
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Old 10-16-2012, 05:51 PM   #10
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Haha its funny how no one answered his main question ! lol


Well I have a Grand Cheerokee SRT8 and it only comes in automatic.
Though I have driven alot of manual cars before.

The thing is when getting ready to moev in the first great you leave the clutch slowly so that it doesn't stall out! after that moving gears form 2-3-4 etc it doens't really matter
when you are racing or driving aggresively you wanna shift quick and to do that you have to leave your clutch very quickly so that minmum lag in gear changes!

When Crusing what I usally do is Press the clutch , change gear, leave the clutch and then apply gas! This way its pretty smooth no jerks or anything!

Just getting out of the first gear is usually hard for new learners since usally people stall.
I learned the stick a couple of year ago to get my license! But I drive both sticks and autos all the time !
Ha Ha... you're right... but you didn't answer his second question on skip shift.

At least we are all trying...

For skip shift... sometimes when you hit low rpms in 1st gear the transmission will lock out 2nd and you just slide it into 4th instead. (Only happens between 1st & 2nd) The display on the dash will show you the shift pattern if it does activate which doesn't happen very often.
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Old 10-16-2012, 05:52 PM   #11
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ahhhh srt-8 so pretty love that truck. Thanks yeah i think its the skip - shift "thing" they said its for fuel economy, meaning you shift to 4th is does whatever then you go to normal shifting from there. Idk just something i read about. so it sounds like you just slowly release the clutch when going from neutral to 1st rev and slowly release clutch then from there on you can release it a bit quicker. Also, say that im approaching a stop light. Im in 3rd can i break and once the rpms get down relatively low clutch in and put it in neutral and wait till it turns green then go from there. or should i slow down downshift to second downshift to 1st then neutral. or doesnt it really matter? thanks for all the help, you guys are great!
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ahhhh srt-8 so pretty love that truck. Thanks yeah i think its the skip - shift "thing" they said its for fuel economy, meaning you shift to 4th is does whatever then you go to normal shifting from there. Idk just something i read about. so it sounds like you just slowly release the clutch when going from neutral to 1st rev and slowly release clutch then from there on you can release it a bit quicker. Also, say that im approaching a stop light. Im in 3rd can i break and once the rpms get down relatively low clutch in and put it in neutral and wait till it turns green then go from there. or should i slow down downshift to second downshift to 1st then neutral. or doesnt it really matter? thanks for all the help, you guys are great!
Some folks downshift through a couple gears and some just push in the clutch and brake to a stop. Just a personal preference and you'll probably get a lot of responses on this. I do it both ways just depending on how I feel at the time.
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Old 10-16-2012, 06:00 PM   #13
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i heard pushing in the clutch "riding it" and coming to a stop isnt good for the clutch? is that incorrect information i received. i heardthat its better to shift into neutral and ride it that way. and neutral is just putter the shifter "inbetween" the gears so the shifter isnt in any particular gear rather just in the middle
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ahhhh srt-8 so pretty love that truck. Thanks yeah i think its the skip - shift "thing" they said its for fuel economy, meaning you shift to 4th is does whatever then you go to normal shifting from there. Idk just something i read about. so it sounds like you just slowly release the clutch when going from neutral to 1st rev and slowly release clutch then from there on you can release it a bit quicker. Also, say that im approaching a stop light. Im in 3rd can i break and once the rpms get down relatively low clutch in and put it in neutral and wait till it turns green then go from there. or should i slow down downshift to second downshift to 1st then neutral. or doesnt it really matter? thanks for all the help, you guys are great!

Yes, I love it ! <3


well nah dude , no matter what speed you are diriving at. you wanna stop simply Press teh Clutch , put it in neutral and let go of the clutch it will eventually come to a stop ! You don't have to shift down in sequence like a bike. But yes, you must learn when to shift down during turns, usually during city driving when I am taking a turn I shift down into the 2nd gear and then turn. and if I am driving a High HP car (Any sports car with stick) I tend to usually start in the 2nd gear, cuz sometimes your foot slips off the clutch and you automatically go in a burn the rubber mode lol
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Old 10-16-2012, 06:03 PM   #15
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Ha Ha... you're right... but you didn't answer his second question on skip shift.

At least we are all trying...

For skip shift... sometimes when you hit high rpms in 1st gear the transmission will lock out 2nd and you just slide it into 4th instead. (Only happens between 1st & 2nd) The display on the dash will show you the shift pattern if it does activate which doesn't happen very often.

Yeps, we all are


Seriously this skip shift thing is annoying. I usually stroll through the challenger forums and have heard people talking about something called the "Skip-Shift eliminator". I am not sure how it works but it exsists.
Plus I was reading a guys post the other day, he almost had an accident cuz of the skip shift, ohh boy was he pissed lol
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Seriously this skip shift thing is annoying. I usually stroll through the challenger forums and have heard people talking about something called the "Skip-Shift eliminator". I am not sure how it works but it exsists.
Plus I was reading a guys post the other day, he almost had an accident cuz of the skip shift, ohh boy was he pissed lol
Yeah.. you can use a skip shift eliminator on the Camaro or you can tune it out. Tune will void warranty so that's why a lot of folks use the eliminator.

and here's where you can get one...
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200627
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hmm thats something i will definitely consider. anyone install this? I doubt i can do it on my own lol
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hmm thats something i will definitely consider. anyone install this? I doubt i can do it on my own lol
Just get the car first... skip shift may not be an issue for you. It doesn't bother me at all.

But I'm willing to bet here on C5 there is a Do it Yourself with videos and all that shows where to plug it in. Super easy with a couple of car ramps.
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Yeah.. you can use a skip shift eliminator on the Camaro or you can tune it out. Tune will void warranty so that's why a lot of folks use the eliminator.

and here's where you can get one...
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200627

Ohh well thats good info. Thanks

though I don't own a camaro YET. I may get a Zl-1 as soon as it is released here. Been hearing about it since forever now and nothing in the showrooms.

Its a huge surprise why it isn't released in Saudi Arabia yet, probably the biggest market for performance cars.
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Ha Ha... you're right... but you didn't answer his second question on skip shift.

At least we are all trying...

For skip shift... sometimes when you hit high rpms in 1st gear the transmission will lock out 2nd and you just slide it into 4th instead. (Only happens between 1st & 2nd) The display on the dash will show you the shift pattern if it does activate which doesn't happen very often.
Actually I think it is low RPM's like in between 15 and 21 mph? Probably why it never bothered you lol. Honestly I have not once had the skip shift solenoid active. It is a very easy car to drive, but I agree with Mike, if you got to drive in traffic, big city traffic, go with the automatic. Glad I stay away from where he works lol. Either way, you cant go wrong.
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Actually I think it is low RPM's like in between 15 and 21 mph? Probably why it never bothered you lol. Honestly I have not once had the skip shift solenoid active. It is a very easy car to drive, but I agree with Mike, if you got to drive in traffic, big city traffic, go with the automatic. Glad I stay away from where he works lol. Either way, you cant go wrong.
Alex you totally got me there...

no wonder I've only seen it once.
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thank you for the answers. Im a fast learner and i wont think ill have to much of a problem once I get driving it for a couple of days. Also, whats the whole 1-4 shift ive been hearing about. As in you have to shift from 1 to 4 at times for some reason. i read it in the manual. One thing the ZL1 at the dealership has is the polished aluminum wheels i want the black ones! they have a convertible with the black wheels and i asked the sales if they could switch them for me. He said no but i feel like when its time to sign on the car hopefully they can do something. Im really leaning towards the manual now!
I have to say that if you made it through College , it should be a walk in the park for you , before you know it , you will be leaving the stop light behind at 4500 RPMs
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Hey guys, long time reader first time post! Anyways like most of you out there the ZL1 definitely caught my eye. That being said im now in the market to get one upon graduation in December 2012 (i no what timing damn winter). I went to my local chevy dealership in northern new jersey (widger chevy) and they had a summit white ZL1 with everything i want nav sunroof illuminated cupholders/footwells, microfiber inserts and a manual! that being said i currently drive an 07 trailblazer SS which i absolutely love with only 40,000 miles on it. The dealer said they would give me around $20,000- $23000 for the SS toward theZL1 which i think is not to bad of a deal. The reason the mileage is so low is because i didn't drive the SS my first two years in college because cars weren't allowed for under classmen. Now my question is i never drove a manual before, however i've been riding dirt bikes since i was seven so i understand the concept. Clutch in put in first raise rpms somewhat and slowly release clutch and off you go. However, is it that easy on the ZL1 meaning on my dirt bike i would shift into first like previously stated and from then on once i got going i would swiftly release the clutch when going into a higher gear without any "bucking" or anything like that. On the ZL1 once you shift into first can you release the clutch slighty faster when shifting into higher gears or should you always release the clutch just as slow as shifting into first. I really dont want to screw up the trans because the car is already expensive enough. Also, what about downshifting any advice on that? Basically my question is should i be scared of a manual in the zl1. Thanks in advance for all the help!
My ZL1 is my first ever manual trans car. You'll be fine!
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:55 PM   #24
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done deal manual it is! now if i can only get the dealer to put on those black wheels ill be set! if not i think i may have to powdercoat the polished ones...
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done deal manual it is! now if i can only get the dealer to put on those black wheels ill be set! if not i think i may have to powdercoat the polished ones...
give it your best shot... I have white w/ the black wheels and love it...

you'll need some black lug nuts to complete the look too.
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