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Old 10-17-2012, 12:56 PM   #1
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2012-2013 ZL-1 is there a difference?

Going to the dealers here in Miami finding 2012 and 2013s in stock. Is there a difference? Is one better than the other?

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Old 10-17-2012, 01:07 PM   #2
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Hmm... MyLink is now available, opposed to what's in the '12. I can't remember if the frameless mirror started in '12, with the rear camera, but that might be a difference, too. Also, '13 is the first year for ZL1 ragtop, but that's strictly for this model.

I can't think of too much more major stuff
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:13 PM   #3
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1. mylink standard
2. framless mirror
3. backup camera display in mylink unit
4. ashen gray insert standard as opposed to matt black.
5. navigation is availible as an option.
6. convertable is an option.
7. night race blue color.
8. hill assist (M6 only)

I think that is it. cost went up by $300. I was able to get supplier price though on a 2013 and nobody would do that on the 2012 and I called quite a few dealerships. The GT500 is out I went to both dealers and said I am looking at each car. told them which ever gave me the better deal I would buy. chevy dealer went supplier ford dealer would not go x-plan.

I ordered the ZL1.
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:23 PM   #4
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Going to the dealers here in Miami finding 2012 and 2013s in stock. Is there a difference? Is one better than the other?
Thanks.
In addition to above, read below esp. the last paragraph

"Chevy's 2012 Camaro ZL1 is one hell of a muscle car, even if Ford's 2013 GT500 does outshine it in horsepower. Demand for the ZL1 has been high--so high that Chevy couldn't quite keep up with its 2012 orders, and will fill the remainder with 2013 models.

Part of the lack of 2012 ZL1 volume was due to some production delays relating to the software code. That downtime meant the factory couldn't build enough 2012 ZL1s to fill all of the orders received, or to reach its 2012 production target, so Chevy has decided to meet its remaining 2012 orders with 2013-model-year cars, which will begin construction in late June or early July. The 2013s filling 2012 orders will only be coupes, since that's all that was available for the 2012 model year.

Chevy estimates it will take 4-6 weeks to fill the remaining 2012 orders, meaning the 2013 Camaro ZL1 Convertible won't enter production until early August 2012. As yet, Chevy hasn't issued any estimated production figures for 2013, but says they will be in addition to the 2012 catch-up order filling. Chevy does say that the majority of 2013 ZL1 production will be in coupe form, and warns dealers to expect their allocation to be coupe-only.

For those looking to get into a 2013 ZL1, there are a few changes on deck, though they're minor and aesthetic only: the black painted carbon fiber hood insert from the 2012 model year will be replaced with a carbon hood insert painted in Ashen Gray, with available color-matched hood and rear deck lid stripes; a new Blue Ray Metallic exterior color will be available; and the optional Chevy MyLink Color Connected radio with GPS Navigation won't be available until regular 2013 ZL1 production starts in August--2012 orders being filled before that won't have the option."
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Old 10-18-2012, 04:50 PM   #5
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I believe the 2013 also has "hill assist" as well. It maybe called something differrent however my understanding is that on the manual transmission if the car meets certain angle parameters on a upslope the brakes will be enabled while you transition your foot from the brake to the gas while letting the clutch out. Prevents roll back.

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Old 10-18-2012, 05:10 PM   #6
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I believe the 2013 also has "hill assist" as well. It maybe called something differrent however my understanding is that on the manual transmission if the car meets certain angle parameters on a upslope the brakes will be enabled while you transition your foot from the brake to the gas while letting the clutch out. Prevents roll back.

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That's correct. the 2013 M6's have Hill Assist.
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Old 10-18-2012, 05:11 PM   #7
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That's correct. the 2013 M6's have Hill Assist.
And boy does it suck.....
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Old 10-18-2012, 05:12 PM   #8
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That's correct. The 2013 M6's have Hill Assist.
That's exactly why professional basketball player Grant Hill ordered a ZL1.
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Old 10-18-2012, 05:16 PM   #9
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And boy does it suck.....
Why?
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Old 10-18-2012, 05:22 PM   #10
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Why?
You just have to get used to the way it works.

To some people, it seems to hold the brake a bit to hard or too long when starting out.

The car also has to be at a certain incline before it kicks in. In mostly city driving, I think mine has only engaged once, maybe twice in 2400 miles.
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Old 10-18-2012, 06:41 PM   #11
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You just have to get used to the way it works.

To some people, it seems to hold the brake a bit to hard or too long when starting out.

The car also has to be at a certain incline before it kicks in. In mostly city driving, I think mine has only engaged once, maybe twice in 2400 miles.
You're lucky. Mine engages several times a day. It is not something "you have to get used to". If I'm sitting at a stoplight behind several other cars and the light turns green, the other cars leave while I still sit at the light waiting for my "assist" to stop assisting. It is very annoying to both me and every other driver waiting behind me.
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Old 10-18-2012, 07:52 PM   #12
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Hill assist is disabled when you turn off stabilitrac.
Only press the pedal hard enough to hold the car still as it holds the pressure you gave it for a second or two. This is another option to start off smoother.
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Old 10-18-2012, 08:01 PM   #13
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Hill assist sounds like a pain in the a$$.
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Old 10-18-2012, 08:09 PM   #14
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Hill assist sounds like a pain in the a$$.
Hopefully someone will come up with a way to defeat it soon
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Old 10-18-2012, 08:29 PM   #15
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I haven't really experienced it yet on my m6. I had it on a previous car (bmw) and liked it. On that car it never got in the way of anything, just did the job quietly behind the scenes like it should..
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Old 10-18-2012, 09:10 PM   #16
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hill assist on my dart actually works once you realize what is going on. you get used to it and it helps you.

Hill assist on the ZL1 is just too agressive. you get used to it but you have to use too much power to overcome it. I don't like it and wish it was gone.
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Old 10-18-2012, 09:30 PM   #17
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I was able to get supplier price though on a 2013 and nobody would do that on the 2012
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Old 10-18-2012, 09:45 PM   #18
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Glad I don't have the hill assist, now I'm wondering if I can swap for the frame-less mirror...
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Old 10-18-2012, 10:22 PM   #19
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Glad I don't have the hill assist, now I'm wondering if I can swap for the frame-less mirror...
The frame-less mirror does not have a screen for the back-up camera.
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Old 10-24-2012, 01:12 PM   #20
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The frame-less mirror does not have a screen for the back-up camera.
I'm not worried about that as I plan to get a touchscreen to put in the car and will have camera displayed there. My main concern which is not a big concern is onstar capability and connections for it.
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:17 PM   #21
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And boy does it suck.....
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:30 PM   #22
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Hill assist is disabled when you turn off stabilitrac.
Only press the pedal hard enough to hold the car still as it holds the pressure you gave it for a second or two. This is another option to start off smoother.
I did notice this. If I was stopped and pressed on the pedal fairly hard (harder than neccessary), then when I took my foot off the brake, the car held more firmly than if I just pressed the brake just enough to hold my position.

The harder you press the brake pedal, the firmer the car will hold it there after you take your foot off the pedal.
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