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Old 10-17-2012, 01:33 PM   #1
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2013 Camaro 2SS

I just ordered a 2013 2SS in Inferno Orange Metallic last night. Got the navigation, RS package, orange interior accents and dual-mode exhaust.

I was pretty much sold on the 1LE package before I ordered it (only thing I didn't like was the black hood and the lack of the option for the orange interior accents). However, when I got to the dealer, the dealer pretty much did everything he could to talk me out of it. I was really surprised that 1) he didn't want me to spend more money and 2) that I gave in.

Now I am having some second thoughts. I doubt I will ever take the car to a track, but I love the 1LE wheels and some of the other improvements.

The dealer said that the 1LE tires wear extremely quickly. Is this even in comparison to the RS tires?

Has anybody actually driven a 1LE for a comparison to a normal SS (I've read most of the professional reviews, looking for a candid real person review)?

The dealer said that the ride comfort on a 1LE would be worse than the normal SS, but I have no way to tell how "bad" it would actually be. I am coming from a 1976 Chevy Truck, 1994 Trans Am, and 2006 2500HD Silverado.

Any insight on my questions would be appreciated.
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:47 PM   #2
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Never driven one but I do believe the tires are the same as those on the ZL1, not sure if same widths but I'm pretty sure they're the same tires so yes they will wear a lot faster.

Isn't the suspension stiffer than that on the SS? so yea the ride comfort would be 'worse' if thats how you perceive it. Or it would be better if you prefer the new suspension.

Correct me if I'm wrong
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:58 PM   #3
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If you want a smooth ride buy a cadi.go for the 1le
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:59 PM   #4
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If worse ride is characterized by "stiffness", all of my current cars ride fine to me and I am sure the two trucks are stiffer than the 1LE.

Is the actual tire compound different between the ZL1 tires and the RS package summer tires?
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Old 10-17-2012, 02:01 PM   #5
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If you want to read a good article about the 1LE, written by a member of C5, follow this link; http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=246800

I think it will sell you on the 1LE package.
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Old 10-17-2012, 02:04 PM   #6
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If you want to read a good article about the 1LE, written by a member of C5, follow this link; http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=246800

I think it will sell you on the 1LE package.
I have read that article and it did help sell me on the package. I just let the practical side of my brain rule last night. Looks like your car would be fairly similar to mine and I love those wheels with the orange. Maybe I will call my dealer and see if I can still change my order.
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Old 10-17-2012, 02:26 PM   #7
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If you want the 1LE, then call them and tell them to add it while you got the chance. Once they get to a certain point in the order process, it's too late.

Don't settle. If you WANT a 1LE, then get what you want. Remember, the dealer isn't going to be living with the car, you are. Make YOU happy, not them.
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Old 10-17-2012, 02:30 PM   #8
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you can probaly change ur order i def would. maybe even drop some extras so you can get new tires and or wheels for the cold weather. my guess is that the ride will def be better than what you have now moslty because is not as "seasoned" as ur current rides
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Old 10-17-2012, 03:23 PM   #9
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you can probaly change ur order i def would. maybe even drop some extras so you can get new tires and or wheels for the cold weather. my guess is that the ride will def be better than what you have now moslty because is not as "seasoned" as ur current rides
I also doubt that the "summer" tires that come with the RS package are really any better in the snow. End of the day, while the Camaro will be a daily driver, I am not dumb enough to think summer performance tires are what I should have on it when I drive in snow. And if it is too bad, that is why I have 4WD trucks.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:11 PM   #10
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Dealer has told me that I cannot make any changes at this point.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:17 PM   #11
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Suggestion. Tell that dealer to cancel your order and find another one cuz it sounds like this one is full of crap.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:24 PM   #12
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Suggestion. Tell that dealer to cancel your order and find another one cuz it sounds like this one is full of crap.
No kidding. I seriously doubt GM is that efficient.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:25 PM   #13
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I am still confused as to why they don't want me to spend more money?
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:27 PM   #14
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total dealer bs. there is no way your order has been processed since last night. tell them you got a better deal up the street at another dealer they will literally be floating in the air asking you if they are jumping high enough for you
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:30 PM   #15
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Dealer has no allocation for a 1LE and wants a sale now.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:40 PM   #16
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So at that point do I say goodbye to the money they had me put down?
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Old 10-17-2012, 05:00 PM   #17
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no you dont need to actually go to another dealer just tell them you did. make them sweat and worry a little. maybe they are just lazy and dont want to do the paperwork. make them explain themselves. there is zero chance that anything has moved on ur order. and if they say it has ask them for the status code.
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Old 10-17-2012, 05:33 PM   #18
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I called the dealer and indicated that he needed to help me out here. He said that we won't know until Monday and if required the car isn't unusual enough to not be an "in-stock" car on their lot. So chances are I can change it (one way or another). He was still trying to convince me lead time. I told him that I don't care if it doesn't get here until April because it is going to be hard to drive this winter anyway (plus it gives me more time to save up my down payment).
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Old 10-17-2012, 06:02 PM   #19
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Unless I missed it I didn't see where you put a deposit down. The car isn't officially "yours" until you've driven it off the lot, even if you signed the paperwork and were staring right at it. You could get what you want, just don't let them jerk you around.
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Old 10-17-2012, 06:18 PM   #20
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Here's my guess on why the dealer told you what they did.

They had a Camaro allocation to build yesterday. Orders have to be in by tuesday of each week if you have an allocation. They didn't want you to order a 1LE because they didn't have a 1LE allocation. They used their Camaro allocation for your order but because they didn't have a 1LE available, they talked you into ordering something that they could get in system right away.

He's right in that your order can't be changed now. That doesn't mean you're stuck with that car though. If you didn't put a deposit down, I would tell them that you want to re-order a 1LE. If they continue to try and talk you out of it, walk away and find a dealer that will do what you ask them to.
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Old 10-17-2012, 06:27 PM   #21
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Here's my guess on why the dealer told you what they did.

They had a Camaro allocation to build yesterday. Orders have to be in by tuesday of each week if you have an allocation. They didn't want you to order a 1LE because they didn't have a 1LE allocation. They used their Camaro allocation for your order but because they didn't have a 1LE available, they talked you into ordering something that they could get in system right away.

He's right in that your order can't be changed now. That doesn't mean you're stuck with that car though. If you didn't put a deposit down, I would tell them that you want to re-order a 1LE. If they continue to try and talk you out of it, walk away and find a dealer that will do what you ask them to.
i didnt know dealers had to have an allocation for an optional equipment??????
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:31 PM   #22
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Unless I missed it I didn't see where you put a deposit down. The car isn't officially "yours" until you've driven it off the lot, even if you signed the paperwork and were staring right at it. You could get what you want, just don't let them jerk you around.
Sorry should have mentioned I had a 500$ deposit.
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:33 PM   #23
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Here's my guess on why the dealer told you what they did.

They had a Camaro allocation to build yesterday. Orders have to be in by tuesday of each week if you have an allocation. They didn't want you to order a 1LE because they didn't have a 1LE allocation. They used their Camaro allocation for your order but because they didn't have a 1LE available, they talked you into ordering something that they could get in system right away.

He's right in that your order can't be changed now. That doesn't mean you're stuck with that car though. If you didn't put a deposit down, I would tell them that you want to re-order a 1LE. If they continue to try and talk you out of it, walk away and find a dealer that will do what you ask them to.
I think you are 100% correct. This is the first car I have bought new, so I am still learning about all this allocation business. He keeps talking about there only being 30 allocated nationally for this month.
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:42 PM   #24
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Here's my guess on why the dealer told you what they did.

They had a Camaro allocation to build yesterday. Orders have to be in by tuesday of each week if you have an allocation. They didn't want you to order a 1LE because they didn't have a 1LE allocation. They used their Camaro allocation for your order but because they didn't have a 1LE available, they talked you into ordering something that they could get in system right away.

He's right in that your order can't be changed now. That doesn't mean you're stuck with that car though. If you didn't put a deposit down, I would tell them that you want to re-order a 1LE. If they continue to try and talk you out of it, walk away and find a dealer that will do what you ask them to.
Bingo. I work at a Chevy store, so I can tell you FOR A FACT that we can change an order up to status code 3000.
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:43 PM   #25
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It's probably because he doesn't have the 1LE allocation. That estimate about 30 for the whole country sounds about right. He is lying to you.
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