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Old 01-14-2008, 02:42 PM   #1
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Ford takes a page from the RIAA

http://www.adrants.com/2008/01/ford-...ts-returns.php

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Recently the club created a calendar which contained images of club member's cars photographed by the member's themselves. Ford didn't take kindly to this and asked CafePress, the service the group had chosen to print the calendars, to kill the project claiming all the images in the calendar are the property of Ford...including the Black Mustang Club logo.
Wow... that's all I have to say.
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Old 01-14-2008, 02:53 PM   #2
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I wonder if ford didn't want to set a precedence by allowing this calendar to be sold. Maybe then it would be harder to stop someone else from truly trying to make money on Fords trademarks.

I don't know the part about they own the right to the owners pics??? That's tough to accept.
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Old 01-14-2008, 02:57 PM   #3
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and that, is one reason why I love GM, they don't pull that shit on a fan club
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Old 01-14-2008, 03:17 PM   #4
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Did you read the comments section?

I think everyone should take the advice of one poster who mentions

"I respectfully insist that you immediately cease and desist any mention of the words Ford or Ford Motor Company or Mustang in your blog postings, as these are company trade marks and copyrighted and it is illegal for any company or person other than Ford Motor Company to profit from their use in any conceivable way that we may perceive. Thankyou."


In keeping with that, I don't think anyone should ever again say the words Ford, Mustang, etc. No one should talk about the "blue oval" in any way, shape or form. Then Ford won't have anything to worry about. I'm all for it. What do you say?
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Old 01-14-2008, 03:25 PM   #5
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I'm thinking the legal department ran with this and didn't consult the PR department. This could be real bad for F*** if they don't retract this in some way. If F*** corporate endorsed this legal action. That says a lot about that company.

I took Slilverado's advice.^^^
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Old 01-14-2008, 03:32 PM   #6
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well i can tell you Chevrolet and GM obviously don't pull that sh*t because this site is still here also ford can't go stopping a calendar just because they use mustang in it there not saying the Ford Mustang and how can ford own the club logo
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Old 01-14-2008, 03:38 PM   #7
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Someone made a point on another forum, that I kinda like - the right people at Ford don't know about this, I'll wager. This is a stunt by some overzealous Lawyer-type who has obviously missed the ball.
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Old 01-14-2008, 03:45 PM   #8
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Dragon (and others)...you're probably right. But, there's no reason why we can't do our part in making sure that the F word and its associated trademarks/copyrights are looked out for until they do straighten this out.

I for one will not stand here and let anyone abuse the good name of F*** or allow their trademarks/copyrights to be exploited. It is just wrong.


Okay, I couldn't even type that and keep a straight face.
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So true. The least we can do.
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Old 01-14-2008, 03:55 PM   #10
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Dragon (and others)...you're probably right. But, there's no reason why we can't do our part in making sure that the F word and its associated trademarks/copyrights are looked out for until they do straighten this out.

I for one will not stand here and let anyone abuse the good name of F*** or allow their trademarks/copyrights to be exploited. It is just wrong.


Okay, I couldn't even type that and keep a straight face.
This F*** lawyer really f***ed up this one. Next they'll be saying we can't mention that any F*** broke down and needs work. They'll call it slander. I'm glad I don't drive a f***ing F***.
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Old 01-14-2008, 04:12 PM   #11
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I promise not to utter the F word here or anywhere else for that matter.
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Old 01-14-2008, 04:23 PM   #12
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lol @ this thread

but, ya know, your momma warned you about using four letter words... so maybe its time to give her some credit

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Old 01-14-2008, 04:31 PM   #13
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When I read about things like this happening, my first thought is that it must be . It's just so completely ridiculous. What possible gain can said company think they can get from this? I haven't seen the calendar in question, but given the creators affiliations, I would assume it contained no slander or derogatory remarks towards anything related to said company.

You know what they say, "There's no such thing as bad advertising". Could this be some kind of misguided publicity stunt? Seems unlikely, but so do the alternative explanations.
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Old 01-14-2008, 04:40 PM   #14
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we could take this one step further, I know in older versions of forum interfaces (I haven't gone in and done a full customization in more than a year) you were able to block certain words and phrases and replace them with something else. thusly typing something like the F word (we know which I'm talking about) would show in the post as F***
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Old 01-14-2008, 05:57 PM   #15
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Well I'll just call if what I already call it: Drof! Backwardslanguage is so fun Of course a certain car would be called the Gnatsum then...
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Old 01-14-2008, 08:43 PM   #16
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Ford are pathetic. Hopefully their company doesn't read this post so they don't charge me for saying their name.
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Sounds like some lawyer at F*** has been hanging out with Shelby a little too much.
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Old 01-15-2008, 12:30 AM   #18
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Well I'll just call if what I already call it: Drof! Backwardslanguage is so fun Of course a certain car would be called the Gnatsum then...
Oddly enough, when you try and say that it sounds kinda Swedish . . .

Anyway, I will give my $0.02 on this. Company F has gone and pissed off some of its most loyal supporters about a year before one of its biggest money makers has two serious competitors on the streets, the Chevrolet Camaro and the Dodge Challenger. Thats Camaro and Challenger in case you missed it. I think I can talk about those cars all I want and neither GM or Chrysler will have a problem, they would probably welcome the free advertising. Though I welcome the return of the pony cars (Camaro, Challenger, and "the car that shall not be named") this is a very stupid move on the part of Company F
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and finally, a Ford employee steps in and resolves the issue... kudos to Ford employee Whitney Drake for stepping up to the plate and stopping the madness.

http://www.bmcforums.com/showthread.php?t=42820

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My name is Whitney Drake and I work in Ford Communications.
We've been watching this discussion with interest and I'd like to
clarify what is essentially a misunderstanding.

Yesterday we spoke to both Cafe Press and the Black Mustang Club
and explained the situation (about the Black Mustang Club’s calendar) to everyone's satisfaction. Ford has no problem with Mustang or other car owners taking pictures of their vehicles for use in club materials like calendars. What we do have an issue with are individuals using Ford’s logo and other trademarks for products they intend to sell. Understandably, we have to take the protection of our brands and licensing very seriously.

Ford did not send the Black Mustang Club a “cease and desist” letter telling them that they could not use images of their own cars in their calendar. The decision not to allow the calendars to be printed was made by Cafe Press, because we had gotten in touch with them in the past about trademark infringements on products they sold.

The Black Mustang Club, and any other Ford enthusiast club, are free to take pictures of their own vehicles for use in calendars or other materials as long as they don't use Ford trademarks in products that will be sold.

I think it is great that the Black Mustang Club, and any other enthusiast club, would take pictures of their own vehicles for use in calendars or other materials.

I'm looking forward to purchasing a copy to hang in the garage next
to my Mustang (even if mine isn't black).

Thanks for giving us the chance to have our say.
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Ford should have released this, or something like it, before they decided to take action. They wouldn't have gotten so much egg on their face.

Good news is they appear to have fixed it. I wonder if that means you have to blur the logos off your car (doesn't make much sense), or if the calendar just can't have the appearance of being a Ford publication.
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I wonder if that means you have to blur the logos off your car (doesn't make much sense), or if the calendar just can't have the appearance of being a Ford publication.
That was exactly my thought as I read it. You can take a picture of your car as long as you remove the logo or you take the picture from an angle where the logo is not visible. Does this count for the Mustang logo as well?

If that is true, they pretty much are saying that you can't take a picture of your car. I think further clarification is still necessary.
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Old 01-16-2008, 12:55 PM   #22
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This is a pretty funny thread. Now, for all those that were interested in stickers, stuff like this is why it takes some time. I have a whole bunch of info that needs to be filled out, sent to GM licensing, and then hopefully we'll be released to have different things made.

It's a time consuming process, but will get done so we can all hopefully be able to proudly display where WE come from!
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Damn, now that they seem to have this settled, does this mean we have to go back to using the F*** name and the associated copyrights/trademarks? That sucks. I really like the idea of making sure no one says their name, the names of their cars, etc.
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I will try and make this the last post where I type the word "Ford". I will refer to them as Company F, just like I try for Company H and Company T. There is also the added incentive because in my family, Ford is a four letter F word that shouldn't be said.
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