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Old 04-05-2017, 11:34 AM   #1
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2017 A10 goes 11.3 Very Best w/Drag Radials

In the Gen 6 ZL1 Forum.....Wow, Slow when ya Consider the Z06
goes 10's on Stock rubber......!!
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Old 04-05-2017, 12:07 PM   #2
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Old 04-05-2017, 12:14 PM   #3
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I've also heard from 2 reputable tuners that this new ZL1 has a lot of torque management even with all traction control off. Same Vengeance car went 11.4 on factory rubber.

Sounds like GM is protecting some driveline components on this new ZL1 for a reason. Time will tell when tuners turn all TM off.
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Old 04-05-2017, 12:20 PM   #4
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Agreed, and Yes it was Vengeance Racing who went the 11.3 on DR's.....Our Gen 5 cars go 12.0 or better (A6 cars) so its not really much faster....
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Old 04-05-2017, 01:06 PM   #5
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.7s is a ton of time in the 1/4 ... especially the faster you go
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11.2 at MIR drag radials from the guy that owns ATI. He ran 11.3 with the factory tires. He said it would not allow max TPS in first and second gear. He logged the runs with HP tuners.
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Old 04-05-2017, 02:07 PM   #7
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Yeah but the problem is, even if the torque management is reduced via a tune, does it matter? Because unless you're running a nasty drag slick (not radial) in the back, I have no doubt it will break loose a 1st and 2nd gear pull due to the incredibly short gearing of the first 4 gears.
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Not too impressive, considering guys on here have registered 11.5's bone stock with their 5th Gen ZL1's. I'll wait to see some more times before I pass judgment.


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Not too impressive, considering guys on here have registered 11.5's bone stock with their 5th Gen ZL1's. I'll wait to see some more times before I pass judgment.


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Old 04-05-2017, 04:24 PM   #10
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The real question is why there is so much torque management in this new ZL1. Will be interesting to see what driveline components had to shed weight and strength.

I pulled the ABS fuse at the track on my 775 rwhp and snapped the passenger half shaft. Car had never broken a driveline part on multiple passes at this power level until all TM was disabled.
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The real question is why there is so much torque management in this new ZL1. Will be interesting to see what driveline components had to shed weight and strength.

I pulled the ABS fuse at the track on my 775 rwhp and snapped the passenger half shaft. Car had never broken a driveline part on multiple passes at this power level until all TM was disabled.
I very very much doubt it had ANYTHING to do with weight saving and therefore lack of strenth, and had everything to do with traction. The LT4 has nasty low and mid range torque and 1-4 gear in the A10 are shorter than most 2nd gears. They no doubt turned it down so that people wouldn't bitch about traction and to achieve drivable conditions.

The A10 is an engineering feat, no need to hit on it's mechanics until proof is presented.

But if it is for strength we'll find out because Ron at Vengeance Racing says they're swapping the blowers and going directly for 9s and are going to find the weakness(s) of the car/A10 and break things so they know what to stay away from.
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Old 04-05-2017, 07:59 PM   #12
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Time will tell why so much TM is built into this Car. As stated before, the LT4 is not a new platform. 11.3-11.4 are still Very impressive numbers for a bone stock 3900 lb car.
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Old 04-05-2017, 09:13 PM   #13
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11.2 at MIR drag radials from the guy that owns ATI. He ran 11.3 with the factory tires. He said it would not allow max TPS in first and second gear. He logged the runs with HP tuners.
Interesting. Just re read your post. So TPS (throttle position sensor) limited along with TM enabled with TC off. Basically this Car can not go WOT in 1st and 2nd gear if TM thresholds are hit.

Tuners will have fun with this Ride. Car could run high 10's and trap 127-129 in good air with just a tune and tire
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Old 04-05-2017, 09:54 PM   #14
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They gave it the same horsepower as the vette, but use TM and Tuning to keep enough gap between the two performance wise to keep vette owners happy...

Or maybe it is to prevent drivetrain damage

Best thing to do would have a performance mode that gives you full power/throttle etc...
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