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Old 12-01-2014, 12:59 PM   #1
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Looking to buy a used 2012 zl1. Need some advice

First if all this is my first post. Love this forum.

I currently have a 370z. I test drove a zl1 and fell in love with it.

Currently dealership has it listed for 43. It is black 2012 with 9k miles. I am a bit concerned about buying a car like this without buying brand new being they are so high performance but can't afford new.

The car appears to be in excellent condition but has had two previous owners. Buying from a certified dealer.

Do you think tbe price is decent? Anything I need to look for? And would it be worth buying an extended warranty?

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Old 12-01-2014, 01:11 PM   #2
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First if all this is my first post. Love this forum.

I currently have a 370z. I test drove a zl1 and fell in love with it.

Currently dealership has it listed for 43. It is black 2012 with 9k miles. I am a bit concerned about buying a car like this without buying brand new being they are so high performance but can't afford new.

The car appears to be in excellent condition but has had two previous owners. Buying from a certified dealer.

Do you think tbe price is decent? Anything I need to look for? And would it be worth buying an extended warranty?

Thanks for your help
Congrats and Welcome aboard.

Your purchasing a factory race car, most of the people who buy these never race them or use them much for that matter, they stick them in a garage and save them for someone like you to purchase used.

9K is just breaking in, There is only or 2 recalls that would need to be done, the new blower and the key fob.

Have them service all the Oils, Engine Trans, and Rear, and your ready to go enjoy a ride like no other.

I Get to drive all exotic cars from mild to Crazy Wild and by far this ZL-1 is the most impressive car I have ever owned.

I drive it to dinner, Drag race it, and put over 500 miles on a road coarse without a whimper.

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Yep, at 9k mikes, the car is still a baby. Check to see if it's still equipped the original F1 supercar tires. If so, that would be a good indicator that it hasn't been abused. Most people don't get much more than 10k out of them, so if they are still on there, it was babied.

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First if all this is my first post. Love this forum.

I currently have a 370z. I test drove a zl1 and fell in love with it.

Currently dealership has it listed for 43. It is black 2012 with 9k miles. I am a bit concerned about buying a car like this without buying brand new being they are so high performance but can't afford new.

The car appears to be in excellent condition but has had two previous owners. Buying from a certified dealer.

Do you think tbe price is decent? Anything I need to look for? And would it be worth buying an extended warranty?

Thanks for your help
my .02 if you going to stay 100% stock and you don't enjoy working on cars you can buy and extended waratny if you want but the cost never works out in my mind.

If you going to mod ever don't even think about it.


I think the price is fair. I have been pondering offing my car and have been looking around. I have seen a couple of 2012 ebay cars go for like 41k but shipping would set you back 1k.


If find these cars to be really easy to work on and pretty stout so waranty on anyting other than the electronics I could car less about. most of the time they would waranty that stuff even if the car was tuned.

it really comes down to can you be the guy that keeps it stock? many people say they will but break down and add 75-80hp because it is so easy and the car tolerates it with factory drivablity and reliability.
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Old 12-01-2014, 01:40 PM   #5
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Thanks everyone for the quick responses.

I used to race street bikes and did all my mods myself. With cars it's different for me. I typically don't do any mods myself. Now having said that, I do like the zl1 stock but I could see going with The ADM (? Spell ) package at some point. Will that void the warranty?

Also, stupid of me for not stating what my tensions were with the car. At most I put on 3k miles a year and fairly easy driving. Spirited driving but never really hard. I don't track or race. Just a weekend car. Motorcycles used to be my hobby and started to crack into cars with my 370z. I am a huge nissan fan but you just don't get much bang for your buck as compared to the zl1.

Anyway, the one I am looking at does not have original wheels. I thought the same thing but realized he has put 22s on new Giovanni rims which are ok. All black. So I can't tell how it has been driving from the tires.

They do have a 2013 used with few less miles but they want 47 for that.
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Basically any package that requires a tune will throw the manufacturer warranty out the window, but these are honestly very stout cars. GM left about 200 WHP on the table with basic bolt-ons and a cam package. Our JDP ZL-850 packages are getting quite popular as well as our ZL-700 Package for those who don't want to get into the engine yet.

If you search around, you'll find many 700+ RWHP ZL1's on this site that get used and abused with no real problems. As long as you use quality parts and have a builder and tuner who knows what they're doing you shouldn't have any issues.

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Thanks everyone for the quick responses.

I used to race street bikes and did all my mods myself. With cars it's different for me. I typically don't do any mods myself. Now having said that, I do like the zl1 stock but I could see going with The ADM (? Spell ) package at some point. Will that void the warranty?

Also, stupid of me for not stating what my tensions were with the car. At most I put on 3k miles a year and fairly easy driving. Spirited driving but never really hard. I don't track or race. Just a weekend car. Motorcycles used to be my hobby and started to crack into cars with my 370z. I am a huge nissan fan but you just don't get much bang for your buck as compared to the zl1.

Anyway, the one I am looking at does not have original wheels. I thought the same thing but realized he has put 22s on new Giovanni rims which are ok. All black. So I can't tell how it has been driving from the tires.

They do have a 2013 used with few less miles but they want 47 for that.

yeah you don't want 22's on this car. you won't hook up and these cars come with factory forged rims that are worth more than the aftermarket rims people put on half the time.

modding these cars will pretty much scrap you powertrain waranty but like I said it is pretty robust.

that being said at 3k a year you will time out not mile out on waranty.

if you buy a 12 at 10k you will only have 16-19k by the time your waranty times out.

most of these cars are going to go that milage trouble free the one varible in the blower and that has a factory waranty extension.
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Old 12-01-2014, 04:29 PM   #8
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Good point on the wheels. Would want to get those changed out. But they need to come down in price a bit for this to work or I will have to keep looking for better deals. Figured now would be a great time to buy.
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Old 12-01-2014, 05:48 PM   #9
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This may be worth looking into...Less money, less miles & stock polished wheels.
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Old 12-01-2014, 05:59 PM   #10
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Just sent him a pm. Thanks for the heads up. Really like this forum.
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Old 12-01-2014, 08:41 PM   #11
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Someone put 22's on the Z? That would scare the crap out of me! I would look around some more. With 22's I would think someone had to re-tune the car for that size of tire? I don't know for sure but check that out.Maybe someone here will correct me if I am wrong.
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Well at least you know with 22's on it hasn't been tracked. BUT you might as well figure that into the price as you shouldn't be caught dead in a ZL1 with 22's.

As others have said it's just broken in and built for the track so no worries. I'd be happy to direct you to the For Sale thead section for those wheels though.

Also, what's the last 4 of the VIN. These cars are numbered and one of the owners might have been on C5... Check here
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Someone put 22's on the Z? That would scare the crap out of me! I would look around some more. With 22's I would think someone had to re-tune the car for that size of tire? I don't know for sure but check that out.Maybe someone here will correct me if I am wrong.
No re-tune needed because tire height is still the same!
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Hated the Goodyears, but 22s? Lol. My kids are getting bigger and complain about the rear legroom. Looked at some SRXs, but with 32k miles, they aren't offering me enough for kids leg room lol. I just got mine back today from the blower replacement. I drive mine ever day and it is really a gr8 engineered machine. You won't be disappointed.
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Hated the Goodyears, but 22s? Lol. My kids are getting bigger and complain about the rear legroom. Looked at some SRXs, but with 32k miles, they aren't offering me enough for kids leg room lol. I just got mine back today from the blower replacement. I drive mine ever day and it is really a gr8 engineered machine. You won't be disappointed.
Glad to see you're still daily driving yours Alex. I'll have to drop by and see you sometime.
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This car is a steal.
Agree - picked mine up used (certified) back in late August with ~4,300 miles for a little more than this guy is asking... and the automatic technically is an add-on. Great price.
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Please do. We never got any pics of 23 and 141 together. Ah and yes, you called the supercharger issue lol.
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What are the issues with the supercharger? I have read where some of them are getting full replacements? This one I am looking at has been replaced already with 2k miles... Anything else I should be looking for?
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Please do. We never got any pics of 23 and 141 together. Ah and yes, you called the supercharger issue lol.
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What are the issues with the supercharger? I have read where some of them are getting full replacements? This one I am looking at has been replaced already with 2k miles... Anything else I should be looking for?
Its a recall. The front bearing starts to rattle. Yours should be good to go now.
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What are the issues with the supercharger? I have read where some of them are getting full replacements? This one I am looking at has been replaced already with 2k miles... Anything else I should be looking for?

you will want to read on this. there is a spring isolator in the blower snout on the 2009 to early 2014 LSA. you can also read on some fo the CTS-V forums as well. there are responses buy GM and or eaton people if memory serves correclty. the revised units have a solid coupler

this spring will wear into the shaft (by design) some car will exibit noise based ont his. with the hood up and running buy the snout it will kind of make a rolling marbles sound.

the second issue is the dust from this shaft wear is belived to sometimes contaminate the front bearing and make it squeal. the one varible though is if that being were not to be lubricated correctly that also could be the cause of the premature squealing.


GM waranties the entire unit they do not fix the issue so this is where a person can just fix the blower assembly themselves if they choose. put a solid couple in to get rid of the blower noise, grease the front bearing like some have done.

There is a TSB to replace the blower but the revised you unit with the solid coupler also will exibit some "flutter" they call it at a certain rpm. people that are overdriven dont' seem to experience this issue.


Top make a short story even longer to some this is a huge deal to others like me I fell like it is a simple fix even when I have the issue. It kind of depends on your fear of wrenching on the car though. The blower unit is ~2k but the fix is really cheap. some don't like the flutter of the new revised blower.

I am at 10k no issues yet I don't care as I would rather fix the blower than the let the hacks at the dearlership touch my car. I don't even have much isolator noise yet. I though by now I would have thrown the coupler in there but my car is still fine.
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I would get the 2013 vs. the 2012...For me the only reasons would be the Factory Rims (hope that they are the Black 10 spoke rims) and the 2013 should have the new My touch radio/ Nav system in it...47K is still a good price on these cars. Either way you go, you'll love the ZL1. You got guys like Ted and Tyler on here that have businesses that build these cars every day and know them inside and out and you have access to them and a wealth of others on here that have do's and do'nts they will tell you about. BTW, I also used to do the track on my bike and bikes were my primary passion. I had an 04 R6 that I tracked and I currently have a 01 and a 04 GSXR 1000. The 04 has a built motor and was putting 180 HP to the wheel...Don't ride much anymore since the wife got into a real bad wreck back in 2006. I just can't enjoy it when I'm always checking my mirrors to see where she is...Anyways GOOD LUCK on your purchase!
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Awesome. This is a great forum. Lots to learn. I tend to research this stuff to no end.

I still need to sell my 370z but if I get a good deal I can buy now and sell later. I just really like these cars. And honestly the performance is great given the price. But I want something I can use as my daily driver in the summer and hopefully start to put more miles on it.
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Awesome. This is a great forum. Lots to learn. I tend to research this stuff to no end.

I still need to sell my 370z but if I get a good deal I can buy now and sell later. I just really like these cars. And honestly the performance is great given the price. But I want something I can use as my daily driver in the summer and hopefully start to put more miles on it.
You've found the right place to research stuff then.
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Awesome. This is a great forum. Lots to learn. I tend to research this stuff to no end.

I still need to sell my 370z but if I get a good deal I can buy now and sell later. I just really like these cars. And honestly the performance is great given the price. But I want something I can use as my daily driver in the summer and hopefully start to put more miles on it.
You will love it as a daily driver. My last daily driver was a 750rwhp C6 Corvette. Yes it was faster than my ZL1 is currently, but I enjoy the ZL1 a lot more. More comfortable and I can still rail some twisties. My plan is to get around 675-700rwhp with the ZL1 and call it done.
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