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Old 10-19-2012, 09:27 PM   #1
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ECF insert on Constraint? Help!

I Have ordered a ZL1 for the second time now. First was the Imperial blue and now the Blue Ray. I was wondering if anyone has confirmed information about the ECF? My Order was placed Almost two weeks ago and the Tracking will not move to accepted. I am very Blue Literally. Any info would be great.
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:48 PM   #2
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blue ray definitely looks better in my opinion with the ashen grey insert.

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That top pic is a great representation of the Blue in Blue Ray with the sunlight and angle.

Absolutely Gorgeous.

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Old 10-19-2012, 09:55 PM   #3
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but yea im pretty sure its been on constraint or at least thats what many people have said.
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:46 PM   #4
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All I can tell you is what my dealer told me. They had an allocation and I placed my order wanting the CF insert and black wheels. They said both were on constraint and they not only had to have an allocation for the car but also separate allocations for the wheels and CF insert. Luckily they had both so I am getting exactly what I wanted. Not sure if this helps, but good luck in getting what you want.
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Old 10-20-2012, 12:49 AM   #5
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I'm not confirming anything but FYI my car is being built the week of Nov 26th and it has the B92 exposed CF insert and Nav and Black wheels. No word to me of any constraints on this build at all.
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Old 10-20-2012, 02:04 AM   #6
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My cars TPW ( Target Production week) is October 22,2013. I'll be calling next week to find out whats happening and I'll let you know as soon as I find out.
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Old 10-20-2012, 02:51 AM   #7
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My cars TPW ( Target Production week) is October 22,2013. I'll be calling next week to find out whats happening and I'll let you know as soon as I find out.
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Old 10-20-2012, 06:53 AM   #8
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I am ordering a crystal red tincoat with black wheels and expose carbon insert that is suppose to be finalized Monday, he insist that nothing is on restraint.

I should find out for sure on Monday, I told him I need something in writing, he said not a problem.
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Old 10-20-2012, 07:18 AM   #9
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When I ordered mine the dealer said that when they got there allocation it was not for one with ECF. If I wanted the insert I would have to give up my spot and hopefully if and when they got another allocation it may or may not let me get the ECF. Wtih that being said I changed my order since there was no guarantee. No regrets I still got an awesome car. From what I've read here alot of people are having issues with the insert cracking at the corners. My order was in July, so the constraints may have been lifted, but they were definitely there then.
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Old 10-20-2012, 07:24 AM   #10
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Mine was bayed this past tuesday the 16th with CF and 10 spoke Wheels .
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Old 10-20-2012, 07:35 AM   #11
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I Have ordered a ZL1 for the second time now. First was the Imperial blue and now the Blue Ray. I was wondering if anyone has confirmed information about the ECF? My Order was placed Almost two weeks ago and the Tracking will not move to accepted. I am very Blue Literally. Any info would be great.
Your order probably won't move until the dedicated allocation weeks for ZL1. This week is a ZL1 only allocation week for Camaro. If your order doesn't move to placed or in system by Tuesday, it means that your dealer hasn't earned a ZL1 allocation.

As for ECF, the actual number that they're building this week is all over the place. Becky shows that they're only building 1 nationally but my report shows that they're building 137 with ECF.

Hopefully your dealer has earned an allocation and your order will picked up. If not, you'll have to play the waiting game and hope they get an allocation or you might have to order with a different dealer that has a better shot of getting ZL1 allocations.

I was lucky as we got an allocation on the last ZL1 cycle for one with ECF. I was also lucky because I asked for an extra ZL1 and they gave it to me so we have 2 ECF ZL1s being built this week.
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:04 AM   #12
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Your order probably won't move until the dedicated allocation weeks for ZL1. This week is a ZL1 only allocation week for Camaro. If your order doesn't move to placed or in system by Tuesday, it means that your dealer hasn't earned a ZL1 allocation.

As for ECF, the actual number that they're building this week is all over the place. Becky shows that they're only building 1 nationally but my report shows that they're building 137 with ECF.

Hopefully your dealer has earned an allocation and your order will picked up. If not, you'll have to play the waiting game and hope they get an allocation or you might have to order with a different dealer that has a better shot of getting ZL1 allocations.

I was lucky as we got an allocation on the last ZL1 cycle for one with ECF. I was also lucky because I asked for an extra ZL1 and they gave it to me so we have 2 ECF ZL1s being built this week.
Would someone please expain this whole allocation thing. It seems to me that if a dealer had a sold order the factory would honor it and schedule a build.

I've never understood this allocation issue. Even if cars are limited in quantity it seems only fair that a customer after placing an order at any dealer should be able to get one...up until the total build for the year is met.

This whole thing really screws over the customer that lives in a rural area as their dealers typically are smaller.

Anyway that is my rant for the day!
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Old 10-20-2012, 09:06 AM   #13
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As someone not in the industry who has devoted more time to looking for the answer than I should admit to doing, let me say the answer is simple and complex. Simple because each year dealers how told how many of each model they are expected to sell (order) and each month what portion of that original allocation, and each week the same. An unordered unit will be assigned to another dealer through a complex series of interactions often called consensus.

Complex because these numbers are adjusted as demand and supply dictate and as capacity (including parts) is available and because who gets an untaken allocation is subject to rules I do not know other than a dealer who takes an allocation that is not in demand will be rewarded by an extra allocation of one in demand.

So, not complex after all.

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Old 10-20-2012, 11:44 AM   #14
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Well I can't thank everyone enough for the information. I will watch it this week. My dealer is the biggest in the area so they stated it should only take 5 to 6 weeks.
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Old 10-20-2012, 01:26 PM   #15
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Before I purchased one that a dealer had on hand, I had gone around to multiple dealerships. The two that had an allocation both told me that the black wheels and ECF were on constraint and that they couldn't tell me how much more time I would have had to wait as a result. Hope you don't have to wait very long but it is more than worth the wait!
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Old 10-20-2012, 11:18 PM   #16
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when i put my order in at the end of july, the black wheels and ecf insert were on constraint. Dealer told me i could buy the insert at their cost. They called me back a week later after the order was accepted by gm and told me that the insert was a little over 3 grand their cost and they could have one in a few days. The dealer's head of ordering told me he would pull some strings to try to get this installed from the factory for the 600 option cost since he thought it was BS that he could order it, but the factory could not come up with one to install. Long story short, my order was pushed back 2 weeks due to the dealer sticking up on my behalf, and getting this ecf insert up to be installed on my car. i received the car sept 18th with the ecf insert instead of the agm insert. My dealer went above and beyond to get the car i wanted! I was not able to get the black wheels, but the 5 spokes look great, the pictures in the catolog do these wheels no justice.

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Old 10-21-2012, 10:25 AM   #17
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I bought a CRT car out of state (TX) and thought I was getting the ECF and to my surprise when it was delivered to my door, it was not ECF but painted, I have called the dealer several times and trying to deal with people who don't understand what I'm really talking about. I have even sent them all pics of exactly what I want. They said they will do so checking but I'm afraid I will be out of luck and I know it will really cost me out the ass to get the ECF that I really, really want!! Although the car looks amazing overall, I guess I shouldn't complain because I have a car in my hands, but I paid out the nose for this car and really want what I paid for!!
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Old 10-21-2012, 02:39 PM   #18
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so ZL1 allocation week is the 3rd week of every month? also, when will GM announce that '13 orders will be filled as '14's? since it happened with the '12's, i'm anticipating that the same thing is gonna happen again.
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Old 10-21-2012, 06:47 PM   #19
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so ZL1 allocation week is the 3rd week of every month? also, when will GM announce that '13 orders will be filled as '14's? since it happened with the '12's, i'm anticipating that the same thing is gonna happen again.
It shouldn't....At least, I hope not. There was a quality hold and then a series of unrelated constraints PLUS pent-up pre-orders that caused the '12 -> '13 shift. Many of those things won't be a problem anymore...
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:14 AM   #20
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My dealer just got his allocation for my ZL1 vert on Friday. He advised on Saturday that the ECF was on constraint, so I told him to skip it to get my order going. I will be having them paint it flat black before it leaves the dealership. My colors will be CRT with black wheels and black top and black interior. I don't think the gray heat extractor would look right. The black wheels were not on constraint.

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Old 10-22-2012, 05:39 PM   #21
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Oh well, I will wait to see what happens. I wouldn't be able to driver during the winter months anyway. Thank for your response.
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Old 10-22-2012, 07:38 PM   #22
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my dealer confirmed that the ECF hood insert is a constraint item, but they're waiting on their next allocation anyway, i'm not really worried about it, the longer it takes, the more $$$ i save up for it !!!
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