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Old 12-18-2012, 12:31 PM   #126
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Did you swap out the L99 intake valves for the LS3's?

Are they sodium filled? Or they were lightweight.

I don't know what the other "head" difference is.
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Old 12-18-2012, 04:31 PM   #127
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That sounds AWESOME! Great job!
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:57 PM   #128
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Great job on the install
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:10 AM   #129
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You did a great job man congratulations car sounds awesome!
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:25 AM   #130
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Great job! Sounds awesome! Glad all the hard work paid off in the end.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:41 AM   #131
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been seeing the facebook updates... didnt know there was a build thread...

very impressive!
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:10 PM   #132
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Very nice work...

I had a 3200 stall with the same trans cooler as you and the temps were around 180 but it didn't take much to drive them up to 200. What speed are you locking your converter at. If on the Highway you should be fine commuting to work.
Thanks mlee, that makes me feel better. I was thinking the 3200 would keep the trans a bit cooler but I guess its about the same as my 3600. My tuner said that it locks up at 60-65mph. I didn't really drive it that fast yet. It would prob be better if it locked up sooner though.

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very cool, im looking forward to seeing this thing around town.
Thanks man. I look forward to see your ZL-1 again also. How's that cormaro project going? Ready to unveil that baby?

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Did you swap out the L99 intake valves for the LS3's?


Are they sodium filled? Or they were lightweight.

I don't know what the other "head" difference is.

I kept the stock valves. It was my understanding that the valves were the same as the LS3 but I didn't verify that. Either way I was happy with the stock ones for this build. The springs are different for sure but I installed dual springs part of the cam package I went with.

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been seeing the facebook updates... didnt know there was a build thread...

very impressive!
Thanks Kyle! Nowhere as impressive as your build. I think I now have half of the power you have. Lol

I'd like to see that beast, hopefully you will bring it to C5 Fest next year.
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:13 PM   #133
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And thanks everyone else for the positive comments. The purpose of this thread was really to demonstrate how relatively simple these engines are. Anyone can do it themselves, its not rocket science but it is a lot of work.
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:52 PM   #134
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Thanks man. I look forward to see your ZL-1 again also. How's that cormaro project going? Ready to unveil that baby?


She is road worthy now for the most part just needs a tune and ill probably be seeing the guy that did yours for that in the spring. I still have a looong way to go to get the car to look good. Im worried about function right now and have some loose ends to fix on it before i do the body work. Plus i kinda ran out of money, that damn ZL1 sucked it all up lol. Worth it though.
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Old 12-23-2012, 04:14 PM   #135
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Great thread, Fantasic work, I haven't done a tear down since 1990 on a small block 350 I put in a 1970 Monte Carlo, lots of fun!!

Great job bud!!

Enjoy!!
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:21 PM   #136
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Awesome thread! and great documentation! Well worth the front page recognition.
I have been following this from the beginning and looking back through has inspired me too look more into getting all the parts for a cam swap.
Do you by chance remember what length push rods you ended up getting after checking the ptv clearance and all?
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:26 AM   #137
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Great thread, Fantasic work, I haven't done a tear down since 1990 on a small block 350 I put in a 1970 Monte Carlo, lots of fun!!

Great job bud!!

Enjoy!!
Thank you, from what I hear these engines are much easier to work on these days.

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Awesome thread! and great documentation! Well worth the front page recognition.
I have been following this from the beginning and looking back through has inspired me too look more into getting all the parts for a cam swap.
Do you by chance remember what length push rods you ended up getting after checking the ptv clearance and all?
Cheers!
Thanks a lot, I was also inspired to do my own work after reading robertway's DIY cam install thread.

I ended up using 7.4" pushrods which gave me ~1 1/4 turns on the rocker bolts before the torque wrench snapped at 22 lbs. This translates into ~50-60 thou preload on the lifters which is in the recommended specs.
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Old 12-27-2012, 12:21 PM   #138
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Thanks Kyle! Nowhere as impressive as your build. I think I now have half of the power you have. Lol

I'd like to see that beast, hopefully you will bring it to C5 Fest next year.
i sure as heck hope so. cant wait to see you both again.
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Old 01-05-2013, 08:40 AM   #139
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Spent the last half hour going through your thread. Great job! Excellent job cronicling your build, it was very informative. Thanks!
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:01 PM   #140
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Spent the last half hour going through your thread. Great job! Excellent job cronicling your build, it was very informative. Thanks!
Thanks kdluke, glad it was helpful. Now if Spring can hurry up so I can start driving it. I miss hearing it!
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Old 07-07-2013, 06:39 PM   #141
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Just went for another cruise around town today. So far so good with the build. I plan to track it at C5 Fest next month and see what it can do.
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Old 07-15-2013, 09:48 PM   #142
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Great thread and congrats on your build. I am looking to someday putting a cam in also. Originally I was also thinking of doing the LS3 conversion, but there are now a lot of shops producing some great numbers with cams and keeping the VVT. Before you went with the LS3 conversion did you give any thought of keeping the VVT. If you did, do you mind me asking what your reason was you went the way you did. If I were to make a decision right now, I would keep the VVT if I knew there was a local shop that has done it and can tune it.
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Old 09-07-2013, 08:59 PM   #143
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Hey man, this thread is great. I plan to do an LS3 conversion in the next few months and the Lethal Racing Night Fury cam.

I plan to do it within three days or so. Friday evening, saturday, sunday, and take off monday just in case.

That being said, would you think it is wise for me to pull the whole engine out?
I am doing a 3200 stall, but for my particular situation, it seems like possibly less work to drop the trans, driveshaft, exhaust(if necessary), and bracing instead of disconnecting all the lines, accessories, etc needed to pull the engine out.

Didnt plan on changing out the oil pump.

I have dropped just the trans on one occasion, and then the entire engine, trans, front cradle, etc on another occasion in my 1998 camaro, so I can do it. But I really am trying to save time since my car is a DD and I cant have it down too long. Especially since I have to have it towed to Lethal Racing for the tune, which is a couple hours away.

So the springs can be put on the heads outside the car, the advantage to working on the engine out of the car is just the timing chain/cover/and cam.

But I figured that removing the front bumper and radiator would get me a good angle of attack on the front of the engine.

What do you think? Thanks for this thread, helping me out alot.
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Old 09-08-2013, 10:24 AM   #144
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Hey man, this thread is great. I plan to do an LS3 conversion in the next few months and the Lethal Racing Night Fury cam.

I plan to do it within three days or so. Friday evening, saturday, sunday, and take off monday just in case.

That being said, would you think it is wise for me to pull the whole engine out?
I am doing a 3200 stall, but for my particular situation, it seems like possibly less work to drop the trans, driveshaft, exhaust(if necessary), and bracing instead of disconnecting all the lines, accessories, etc needed to pull the engine out.

Didnt plan on changing out the oil pump.

I have dropped just the trans on one occasion, and then the entire engine, trans, front cradle, etc on another occasion in my 1998 camaro, so I can do it. But I really am trying to save time since my car is a DD and I cant have it down too long. Especially since I have to have it towed to Lethal Racing for the tune, which is a couple hours away.

So the springs can be put on the heads outside the car, the advantage to working on the engine out of the car is just the timing chain/cover/and cam.

But I figured that removing the front bumper and radiator would get me a good angle of attack on the front of the engine.

What do you think? Thanks for this thread, helping me out alot.
I'm glad you're finding the thread helpful. Pulling the engine out is certainly not necessary to do a cam swap or even a conversion. You can do it in 3 days no problem if you have all the parts and tools ready. For me it made sense to pull the engine out since I found it more difficult to remove the trans with the car on jack stands in the garage to replace the converter.

I wanted to drop the oil pan entirely in order to swap out the oil pump, tensioner and timing chain without too much trouble. You have no idea how easy it was to install the new oil pump with the oil pan off the block. My 11 year old can do it. I also felt better to replace the oil pan gasket and the only way to do it right is to lift the engine off the mounts.

Even though you don't plan on replacing the pump, you still need to remove it in order to replace the chain tensioner with an LS2 Damper. Some folks including myself replaced the pump and chain at that point for peace of mind although this is a big debate on here whether or not it's necessary.

I can tell you that working on the engine outside the car is a huge pleasure. It's also a lot easier to clean the block once everything is put back together. The decision is really yours to make. You will realize that once you remove the intake manifold, heads, headers, water pump and trans, there's not much at all left to do in order to pull the engine out. you're already there.

If you want to be 100% confident that what you're doing is right and with quality, I say pull the engine out and work on it like a gentleman as Ted puts it.
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Old 09-08-2013, 10:34 AM   #145
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Great thread and congrats on your build. I am looking to someday putting a cam in also. Originally I was also thinking of doing the LS3 conversion, but there are now a lot of shops producing some great numbers with cams and keeping the VVT. Before you went with the LS3 conversion did you give any thought of keeping the VVT. If you did, do you mind me asking what your reason was you went the way you did. If I were to make a decision right now, I would keep the VVT if I knew there was a local shop that has done it and can tune it.
Sorry, just saw your thread.

Originally I was decided on a VVT-3 cam from TSP. I was so close to going that route but later decided I wanted a 3 bolt Comp cam instead. I may switch back to VVT down the road to give it a try but not until the engine is due for new valve springs. Probably in few years since I don't drive the car much. I think the VVT performs better and we shouldn't be afraid of it failing. I haven't heard of any failures yet.
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With so much debate over stuck oil pump or Melling, I decided to go with the Melling since it was cheap. Still not convinced its a better pump but i don't want to get into that now. I added a photo of the oil pump install using feeler gauges. Im feeling good about this one!
I know ive seen it before, was like a screenshot from an iphone/email but do you know which thread that picture is in showing the exact directions from melling on which feeler guages to use?

Or where did you find the directions?

Thanks.

Edit: finally found it, looked through 9 threads and it was the 10th one. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...24#post7106724
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I know ive seen it before, was like a screenshot from an iphone/email but do you know which thread that picture is in showing the exact directions from melling on which feeler guages to use?

Or where did you find the directions?

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