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Old 10-21-2012, 03:58 PM   #1
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Next Camaro design (as always?) to be influenced by Mustang

From 38:50, GM happy to let Mustang lead.

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Old 10-21-2012, 04:02 PM   #2
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Old 10-21-2012, 04:20 PM   #3
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Seem to have the problem since switching to the iPhone5. I copy and paste what's displayed and... Nothing.
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Try this:

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Old 10-21-2012, 06:05 PM   #5
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Personally if I wanted the gen 6 Camaro to be great I would more look at the higher performing brands and use them as a benchmark. Imagine what it would have been like if GM had made the gen 5 Camaro to compete with the GTR.
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Old 10-21-2012, 06:07 PM   #6
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I'd like to keep the aggressive, angular lines of the current generation with a more evolutionary turn toward high-end exotics. The Camaro has a history of fighting and being inspired by some high-end cars.
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I'd like to keep the aggressive, angular lines of the current generation with a more evolutionary turn toward high-end exotics. The Camaro has a history of fighting and being inspired by some high-end cars.
Not for design I meant for handling performace and power.
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I love the basic look of the current car, just wish it was slightly trimmer and less "cartoon-y". Hopefully they respond to the Mustang but chart a fresh course evolving from the current car.
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Not for design I meant for handling performace and power.
That's what I meant, too.
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:11 PM   #10
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I remember watching that interview he talked about a couple months ago and the impression that I got from that wasn't exterior design so much as things like engine options. In fact, I think Al said that in specifically in response to having a turbo4 in the Camaro, I could be wrong though.
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Old 10-23-2012, 04:51 PM   #11
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I remember watching that interview he talked about a couple months ago and the impression that I got from that wasn't exterior design so much as things like engine options. In fact, I think Al said that in specifically in response to having a turbo4 in the Camaro, I could be wrong though.
That would make more sense.
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I love Camaro design...for me it has just the right lines....they are hard lines but its not over-done. We loved the concept and that is what GM gave us. "Cartoony" or not, it is still one of the more striking designs on the road (especially in its price range) and I see no need to soften it up too much for the next gen.

I'll be dissapointed if once again, we see yet another American design (Next gen Mustang and Corvette anyone???) turn to European cars for inspiration rather than just evolving from what we currently have.

I can't blame GM if they deviate from the design quite a bit and go with soemthing new (which has happened just about every generation...the closest being gens 1 and 2), but I think an evolutionary step forward using a similar design would also be a smart choice. The current car design is a huge homerun, and using it on a slightly smaller, lighter 6th Gen Alpha platform would be a knockout.
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Imagine what it would have been like if GM had made the gen 5 Camaro to compete with the GTR.
lol

You want a 100% price increase in the cost of the Camaro then?

You can't expect super car performance without super car cost.
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I love Camaro design...for me it has just the right lines....they are hard lines but its not over-done. We loved the concept and that is what GM gave us. "Cartoony" or not, it is still one of the more striking designs on the road (especially in its price range) and I see no need to soften it up too much for the next gen.

I'll be dissapointed if once again, we see yet another American design (Next gen Mustang and Corvette anyone???) turn to European cars for inspiration rather than just evolving from what we currently have.

I can't blame GM if they deviate from the design quite a bit and go with soemthing new (which has happened just about every generation...the closest being gens 1 and 2), but I think an evolutionary step forward using a similar design would also be a smart choice. The current car design is a huge homerun, and using it on a slightly smaller, lighter 6th Gen Alpha platform would be a knockout.
I don't understand your statement about the 1st and 2nd gens being the closest in design. To me they were completely different. When the second Gen came out even Chevrolet said it was European influenced. The 3rd and 4th gens were much closer than 1 and 2.

And to the OP several times the Camaro went with a different design philosophy than the mustang. Anyone remember the Mustang II? The Camaro never went that direction. And before that the early 71 to 73 Mustang was no where like the 70's Camaros. In my opinion the only Camaros that were influenced directly by Mustang design were the 1st and 5th gens.
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Old 10-26-2012, 11:16 AM   #15
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And to the OP several times the Camaro went with a different design philosophy than the mustang. Anyone remember the Mustang II? The Camaro never went that direction. And before that the early 71 to 73 Mustang was no where like the 70's Camaros. In my opinion the only Camaros that were influenced directly by Mustang design were the 1st and 5th gens.
That they did, and when they did initially we got the best Camaros of all (1970 Split Bumper and 1982). But when the "evolved" those designs we got some abominations ('76 & '93). In any case, the first gen and the 5th gen both followed the path created by Mustang.
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I don't understand your statement about the 1st and 2nd gens being the closest in design. To me they were completely different. When the second Gen came out even Chevrolet said it was European influenced. The 3rd and 4th gens were much closer than 1 and 2.

And to the OP several times the Camaro went with a different design philosophy than the mustang. Anyone remember the Mustang II? The Camaro never went that direction. And before that the early 71 to 73 Mustang was no where like the 70's Camaros. In my opinion the only Camaros that were influenced directly by Mustang design were the 1st and 5th gens.
Thinking back...the front and rear of the 2nd gen versus the 1st was quite a bit different, but the stance and side profile seems pretty similar to me. The 4th gen looks like a softned up version of the 3rd so I guess I could agree with you.
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The very existence of Camaro was in response to Mustang, so it makes sense that Chevy will be reactive versus being proactive in the next design. However, I personally would like Chevy to build the next gen based on the 5th gens basic appearance, regardless of what Ford does to the next Mustang.
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lol

You want a 100% price increase in the cost of the Camaro then?

You can't expect super car performance without super car cost.
I disagree. The current ZL1 is pretty damn close already. Cut a couple of hundred pounds and increase the SC boost, with its awesome suspension...it is right there for $60k.
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I disagree. The current ZL1 is pretty damn close already. Cut a couple of hundred pounds and increase the SC boost, with its awesome suspension...it is right there for $60k.
Yeah, just add body panels and suspension/drivetrain components made of composites and high-grade aluminum and toss in an ls9 for free. That'll be profitable for gm.
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I disagree. The current ZL1 is pretty damn close already. Cut a couple of hundred pounds and increase the SC boost, with its awesome suspension...it is right there for $60k.
Wait for the 6th gen...where an application like the ZL1 would probably weigh in the 3,700 to 3,800 lb range on the Alpha platform.
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