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Old 11-07-2012, 05:50 PM   #26
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Yes, it's all about what YOU want out of your V6. I wanted the extra HP and was willing to do the mod. The NA camaro is a great car I just wanted something more but not another V8.
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Old 11-07-2012, 05:56 PM   #27
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Lol I have a vid of me driving through the nor'easter I just took driving home with T2 ports exposing the air filter of the SC. Had to watch my lead foot but a soon as I had space on a private road lol I had to play with the power and fishtail it a bit. Ran great!
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:09 PM   #28
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Yes, it is cheaper but if you crave the power output level of fi, you will never achieve that with na. I mean the most we have right now for na is the MACE cams which even then we have to see what the gains are. Now, the cams would be about 1000 to buy and probably another 1000 in installation because of the complexity of the engine. Also, let's say you get the ported heads from RX, that's another 1200 after the core return and probably add a little for install. Having stated that, you're already 3200 in and who knows what you're getting out of the cams and heads. Also, who knows what the driveability will be at that point if your car is a daily driver. If you get great gains, then good but if they are minimal gains, I'd save the 3200 you're out and put it either towards the supercharger or a nitrous kit if you're interested in the track
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:29 PM   #29
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Yes, it is cheaper but if you crave the power output level of fi, you will never achieve that with na. I mean the most we have right now for na is the MACE cams which even then we have to see what the gains are. Now, the cams would be about 1000 to buy and probably another 1000 in installation because of the complexity of the engine. Having stated that, you're already 2000 in and who knows what you're getting out of the cams. If you get great gains, then good but if they are minimal gains, I'd save the 2000 you're out and put it either towards the supercharger or a nitrous kit if you're interested in the track
Now your getting into internal engine modifications that put you in another racing class. Your right, more money than I'm willing to spend.

Very happy competing with the simple bolt on folks and plenty fast for me.

I'm in for about $3k spent over 3 years and waiting on my last performance mod (IPF tune) and then hit the track.

Too far along to even consider FI since the car may be traded in a year or two.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:14 PM   #30
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Now your getting into internal engine modifications that put you in another racing class. Your right, more money than I'm willing to spend.

Very happy competing with the simple bolt on folks and plenty fast for me.

I'm in for about $3k spent over 3 years and waiting on my last performance mod (IPF tune) and then hit the track.

Too far along to even consider FI since the car may be traded in a year or two.
I agree with you. At the moment, I'm satisfied where I'm at. The car feels pretty fast for me and I might be doing an IPF tune in the future to finish everything up Was going to install long tubes but it seems many are having headaches with them so I'm going to hold out on those.

Later down the road, I want the IPF kit.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:44 PM   #31
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Yep I agree...depends on the power you are seeking. A supercharger would be the shiz but I love the NA thing just as much. If this ipf tune does like it sounds like it could do, we might get these simple bolt on cars further along than before.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:51 PM   #32
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If you are in need of an IPF tune in FL, I have a tuner and can get it set up for you, there is a charge that goes to the owner of the tuner (not me)
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:48 AM   #33
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I have to add, if starting out with a fresh LFX, I'd be all over this kit and call it a day.
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Old 11-08-2012, 02:35 PM   #35
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If you are going to change out the pulley, then you'll have to change out the BOV.for the higher output. or just gag it .hehe
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:31 PM   #36
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Is there any video of the IPF on a LLT Camaro- I know stand-alOne said it was quiet, but alot of the vids I've seen on S/C cars had more gear whine than I expected.

Also Ash, can you PM me a price for install if I come see you in Tempe?
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Is there any video of the IPF on a LLT Camaro- I know stand-alOne said it was quiet, but alot of the vids I've seen on S/C cars had more gear whine than I expected.

Also Ash, can you PM me a price for install if I come see you in Tempe?
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I'd contact member IPF Tuning, that's Jesse. He will assist you through everything and has great customer service
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:12 PM   #38
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Is there any video of the IPF on a LLT Camaro- I know stand-alOne said it was quiet, but alot of the vids I've seen on S/C cars had more gear whine than I expected.

Also Ash, can you PM me a price for install if I come see you in Tempe?
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Old 11-09-2012, 02:44 PM   #39
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:27 PM   #40
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What kind of video are you looking for ?
Are you looking for WOT ? If your looking for rear end noise that could be difficult.


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Old 11-10-2012, 07:26 AM   #41
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I Love my IPF Supercharger 10 psi @ 6300 rpm, 380 RWHP B 4 BBK's and Cats. 413 now. Had it Put on Livernois Motorsports Dyno to get the numbers.Without traction control on I left 100 feet of Pirelli's and smoke so thick it made a whole block dissapear, lol. Getting ready to go to Milan Dragway at 11AM today. Will post times when I get back. BTW Jesse is great to work with.
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Many kudos to the guys at REDLINE MOTORSPORTS and IPF Products, a superior shop here in Florida and a great Supercharger System....
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OK...so again I'm confused. Det_Duke claims 10psi of boost at 6,300 rpm, but according to IPF their kits make about 7 - 8 psi of boost at 7,000 rpm at sea level.

Det_Duke...can you explain or maybe an IPF rep can jump in here and straighten us out?

Whats the scoop? I know of no other pulley that IPF offers.
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Old 11-10-2012, 01:04 PM   #44
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OK...so again I'm confused. Det_Duke claims 10psi of boost at 6,300 rpm, but according to IPF their kits make about 7 - 8 psi of boost at 7,000 rpm at sea level.

Det_Duke...can you explain or maybe an IPF rep can jump in here and straighten us out?

Whats the scoop? I know of no other pulley that IPF offers.
Ash said 9 psi @ 7200ish.

But I agree so many conflicting reports.

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Ash said 9 psi @ 7200ish.

But I agree so many conflicting reports.

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True...I should have said 7 - 8 psi at 6,800 rpm instead of 7,000 since sycraft is making 7 psi on his and dyno'd at 6,800 rpm.


As a follow up, I have read elsewhere that Det_Duke is saying his is getting excessive oil and gas in the catch can. Maybe something is causing the added pressure which is why it is reading higher boost? Just a guess...I'm no expert on this stuff.
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Ash said 9 psi @ 7200ish.

But I agree so many conflicting reports.

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Just pulled the dyno sheet 9.91 psi @ 7200, my HP starts to drop off at 6400 hope that makes more sense.
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Old 11-10-2012, 03:23 PM   #47
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Hi !

@DET-DUKE : Please send me or Jesse@IPF-TUNING your VIN by PM and i check if there is a software update for your car .. 6400 RPM start drop off seems bit tooo low for me !

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Old 11-10-2012, 04:51 PM   #48
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@DET-DUKE : Please send me or Jesse@IPF-TUNING your VIN by PM and i check if there is a software update for your car .. 6400 RPM start drop off seems bit tooo low for me !

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Thanks so much but I bought the tuner and software, its on the way by UPS. Went to the track knowing it needed a tune, just added BBK's & High flow Cats, but last weekend for Miland Dragway lol just had to go. It ran 13:31's @108 all day 8.6 1/8 @ 83 mph 2.0 60 ft.

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So possibly doing a retune could help some from what it seems?

I'm guessing you meant 8.6 1/8 mile @ 83mph?

What was your 60 foot time? 108 MPH is a pretty fast MPH. Looking at the Camaro SS 1/4 mile fast list, all of the ones running around 108 MPH are finishing anywhere from 12.7 to 13 flat, so it seems it is definitely possible for you to pull off a faster time
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