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Old 11-07-2012, 04:18 PM   #18
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Do you have headers Ikmv? You posted pics of your bay but I cant really tell.
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Old 11-07-2012, 04:43 PM   #19
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Hello !

This Camaro is set with LFX engine ... so NO headers !!

All Camaro - LLT -SC Kits were complete tuned with all sorts of headers ... short .. long ... stock ... all done !

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Old 11-07-2012, 04:44 PM   #20
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Thx for reply Sycraft.

Maybe you can also help me here, I asked this question in another IPF thread as stated, A custom tune for cars fitted with headers is currently in development. What is the status of the tune, as I have shorty headers.

V8's can use the same V3 SC, correct? I know a few have upgraded the pulley on their V3.
It is the same V3 unit, they do have a tune for headers now. So fuel issues and internals are whats holding it up, you can go big, but be prepared to blow it.....The stock bottom end has not been pushed too hard yet, so actual limits have not been breached. I feel that anything over 500 crank is starting to push it, I am knocking on that door.
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Old 11-07-2012, 05:02 PM   #21
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Hello !

More BOOST is NOT always MORE power !!

The maximum output power vs boost level It is dependent on the compression ratio and the fuel quality used with the SC conversion !

In the actual setup we are running 9PSI at REV LIMIT at sea level and when i do a pulley change to get 10 11 or 12 PSI we must reduce the ignition advance and the max power output is nearly same because of the very high basic compression ratio of the LLT / LFX engines !

Only with lower compression ratio you can run that high boost 12PSI but then your engine is loosing much power below 4500 RPM so that it will feeling tired !

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Old 11-07-2012, 05:13 PM   #22
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I agree with the others. with this kit making somewhere between 450 - 500 crank horsepower, you are going to need to do a lot more than a pulley change to be on the safe side.

ASH...I enjoy reading your comments as it really seems you know what you are talking about. I hope to be trying out your IPF tune on my Non-Aspirated Camaro one of these days.
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Old 11-07-2012, 05:42 PM   #23
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i'm starting to lean more and more on this kit. just still unsure to stay na or go fi still lol
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:01 PM   #24
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i'm starting to lean more and more on this kit. just still unsure to stay na or go fi still lol
Really depends on what you want out of it. If you want power, na will probably never achieve what this supercharger will.
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:29 PM   #25
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Really depends on what you want out of it. If you want power, na will probably never achieve what this supercharger will.
True that but something to say about having a bolt on, great performing NA V6.

It's a cheaper way if it meets your need for speed.
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:50 PM   #26
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Yes, it's all about what YOU want out of your V6. I wanted the extra HP and was willing to do the mod. The NA camaro is a great car I just wanted something more but not another V8.
Ash is really knowledgeable at these ECUs. I have done engine control for Turbine Engines for almost 30 yrs and he knows his stuff and is great at turning the files around. He is one of the reasons I am delighted with my IPF SC kit. Now if the snow would stop so I can show off his and IPFs handy work First a hurricane and today a Nor easter the Camaro doesn't do well in heavy snow !
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:56 PM   #27
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Lol I have a vid of me driving through the nor'easter I just took driving home with T2 ports exposing the air filter of the SC. Had to watch my lead foot but a soon as I had space on a private road lol I had to play with the power and fishtail it a bit. Ran great!
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:09 PM   #28
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Yes, it is cheaper but if you crave the power output level of fi, you will never achieve that with na. I mean the most we have right now for na is the MACE cams which even then we have to see what the gains are. Now, the cams would be about 1000 to buy and probably another 1000 in installation because of the complexity of the engine. Also, let's say you get the ported heads from RX, that's another 1200 after the core return and probably add a little for install. Having stated that, you're already 3200 in and who knows what you're getting out of the cams and heads. Also, who knows what the driveability will be at that point if your car is a daily driver. If you get great gains, then good but if they are minimal gains, I'd save the 3200 you're out and put it either towards the supercharger or a nitrous kit if you're interested in the track
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Yes, it is cheaper but if you crave the power output level of fi, you will never achieve that with na. I mean the most we have right now for na is the MACE cams which even then we have to see what the gains are. Now, the cams would be about 1000 to buy and probably another 1000 in installation because of the complexity of the engine. Having stated that, you're already 2000 in and who knows what you're getting out of the cams. If you get great gains, then good but if they are minimal gains, I'd save the 2000 you're out and put it either towards the supercharger or a nitrous kit if you're interested in the track
Now your getting into internal engine modifications that put you in another racing class. Your right, more money than I'm willing to spend.

Very happy competing with the simple bolt on folks and plenty fast for me.

I'm in for about $3k spent over 3 years and waiting on my last performance mod (IPF tune) and then hit the track.

Too far along to even consider FI since the car may be traded in a year or two.
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Now your getting into internal engine modifications that put you in another racing class. Your right, more money than I'm willing to spend.

Very happy competing with the simple bolt on folks and plenty fast for me.

I'm in for about $3k spent over 3 years and waiting on my last performance mod (IPF tune) and then hit the track.

Too far along to even consider FI since the car may be traded in a year or two.
I agree with you. At the moment, I'm satisfied where I'm at. The car feels pretty fast for me and I might be doing an IPF tune in the future to finish everything up Was going to install long tubes but it seems many are having headaches with them so I'm going to hold out on those.

Later down the road, I want the IPF kit.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:44 PM   #31
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Yep I agree...depends on the power you are seeking. A supercharger would be the shiz but I love the NA thing just as much. If this ipf tune does like it sounds like it could do, we might get these simple bolt on cars further along than before.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:51 PM   #32
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:48 AM   #33
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I have to add, if starting out with a fresh LFX, I'd be all over this kit and call it a day.
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