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Old 01-09-2013, 10:11 PM   #222
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The LFX is supported by efilive and hp tuners. Its a delphi ecm that is controllable by the popular tuning software suites. The LLT was a bosch ecm that is the devil.
Yep...tuning killed that thing. I'd like to see IPF tuning tackle a big HP turbo LLT setup, but if its true that the HPFP on the LFX is better than it may never be capable of reaching the same levels as the LFX can anyways.
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Old 01-09-2013, 10:20 PM   #223
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Good Lord Derrick....lol

I'm sure you are aware that translates into roughly 600HP at the crank on your auto tranny car...and now you want to run E85 eh?? How much more power do you need?? lol just kidding!!

Congrats man! I want to see 10 second quarter miles this year from you. Got it??



OK...I'll take mid to low 11s.

The V6 section needed some excitement like this.
Unlocked converter on dyno at that....
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Old 01-09-2013, 10:31 PM   #224
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Good Lord Derrick....lol

I'm sure you are aware that translates into roughly 600HP at the crank on your auto tranny car...and now you want to run E85 eh?? How much more power do you need?? lol just kidding!!

Congrats man! I want to see 10 second quarter miles this year from you. Got it??



OK...I'll take mid to low 11s.

The V6 section needed some excitement like this.
Yeah, we will back off on the boost for the street/93 octane tune. Don't need that much power to drive to work . We were really looking to see what we could do on pump gas.

Just to be clear, I wasn't there today so I'm relying on Ryan to clear up any of my mistakes.

They pulled the crankcase evac system off so this was venting to atmosphere. They had done everything they could think of to find what was causing the smoking at high RPMs. Finally they figured out that there was oil splashing up into the hose and getting pulled into the catch can. To get rid of the wheezing they are now evacuating the fumes into the exhaust behind the turbos (see the pictures I posted earlier). After unhooking that hose they got rid of the smoke and felt comfortable doing some real pulls. Long story short, there was false knock and so he was able to put most of the timing back in it and got 500 RWHP. It would probably make a bit more with a properly dialed in evac system (need some vacuum), but I'm happy with this on pump gas.

The goal has always been to run E85 at the track. We weren't sure we'd be able to pump enough fuel, but now it looks like we've got a good shot. It might yeild us another 30 HP, but that's just a guess. He's going to give that a try tomorrow and then they'll work on fixing the evac system and hopefully finalize the tunes.

I hope we can get her in the 10s, but low 11s will be fine by me. Ryan ran 11.3 with my slicks and skinnies. At the time he had about 480 RWHP I think, but can't remember the torque (probably a bit more than me). However, mine runs up to 7000 RPMs and my stall is a bit higher than his. It should be a real close race between the two of us...at least until he gets that new converter then he'll have the advantage again.
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Old 01-09-2013, 10:35 PM   #225
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Congrats Derrick. This is very cool.
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Old 01-09-2013, 10:37 PM   #226
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WOW bro congrats!
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Old 01-09-2013, 10:40 PM   #227
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Damn thats cool Derek. I might have to run to indy and back in one day just to see this run if you go to the fest. Sadly I wont have the whole weekend.
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Congrats Derrick. This is very cool.
Thanks Jak.
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Thats pretty accurate. The baffling in the valve cover is allowing too much oil into the vaccum setup. This will get ironed out though and we'll see what the e85 brings. One thing it wont bring is detonation, which is freaking awesome. Its gonna be cool to have a nice 93 tune that will crank out 470 rwhp easy, and then crank it up with e85. Congrats on the setup man, its really impressive to see that kind of power through a v6 automatic with an unlocked converter.

Oh and this is on an unported stock tb, stock heads, stock cams, stock crank, stock rods, and forged pistons. Truth be told, the vaccum setup isnt really a big need, more of another way to help pickup some power at higher boost. The motor is quiet, and very solid. It made no less than 15 pulls today and never had an issue.

The efrs are serious turbos and the spool time is nothing. Squeeze the skinny pedal and its on!
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Thats pretty accurate. The baffling in the valve cover is allowing too much oil into the vaccum setup. This will get ironed out though and we'll see what the e85 brings. One thing it wont bring is detonation, which is freaking awesome. Its gonna be cool to have a nice 93 tune that will crank out 470 rwhp easy, and then crank it up with e85. Congrats on the setup man, its really impressive to see that kind of power through a v6 automatic with an unlocked converter.

Oh and this is on an unported stock tb, stock heads, stock cams, stock crank, stock rods, and forged pistons. Truth be told, the vaccum setup isnt really a big need, more of another way to help pickup some power at higher boost. The motor is quiet, and very solid. It made no less than 15 pulls today and never had an issue.

The efrs are serious turbos and the spool time is nothing. Squeeze the skinny pedal and its on!
You and Aaron deserver the credit man. I just had the desire, you made it happen.
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Thats pretty accurate. The baffling in the valve cover is allowing too much oil into the vaccum setup. This will get ironed out though and we'll see what the e85 brings. One thing it wont bring is detonation, which is freaking awesome. Its gonna be cool to have a nice 93 tune that will crank out 470 rwhp easy, and then crank it up with e85. Congrats on the setup man, its really impressive to see that kind of power through a v6 automatic with an unlocked converter.

Oh and this is on an unported stock tb, stock heads, stock cams, stock crank, stock rods, and forged pistons. Truth be told, the vaccum setup isnt really a big need, more of another way to help pickup some power at higher boost. The motor is quiet, and very solid. It made no less than 15 pulls today and never had an issue.

The efrs are serious turbos and the spool time is nothing. Squeeze the skinny pedal and its on!
This baffling in the valve cover you speak of? Could this be any cause of the oily intakes many experiance and the need of a catch can? May we have something new in the works for the oil carry over that wouldnt require a catch can? Correction to a bad oem design?
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wow now those are some beautiful numbers! Great job guys!
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I'll post the dyno sheets as soon as Ryan gets them to me. Still lots of little things to do in addition to the E85 tune (alignment, road testing,...) so I don't know when that will be.
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Just now starting to play with cam timing, may be later today but i will get some graphs to you.
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Yeah, hopefully I can make it all the way down the track under power this year
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