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Old 02-28-2013, 08:34 AM   #251
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ok, so I just watched the video and there sure is a heavy plug for the Z/28 showing the car then the emblem..it's coming boys, I have no doubt in my mind!!
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Old 02-28-2013, 09:25 PM   #252
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...the deal is...build it, and they will come...but it's up to them. There is more than enough materials at hand, in house or by addition of OEM contract, to bring it to market.........so we shall bide our time and wait....until that time when the edict comes down from on high...
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:15 PM   #253
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...the deal is...build it, and they will come...but it's up to them. There is more than enough materials at hand, in house or by addition of OEM contract, to bring it to market.........so we shall bide our time and wait....until that time when the edict comes down from on high...
And then where would we go from there? 7th Gen rumors...

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Old 02-28-2013, 11:52 PM   #254
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...the deal is...build it, and they will come...but it's up to them. There is more than enough materials at hand, in house or by addition of OEM contract, to bring it to market.........so we shall bide our time and wait....until that time when the edict comes down from on high...
There's no motivating factor to build a proper Z/28 anymore. There is no Trans Am racing to put the car in, the Ford BOSS 302 has run it's course and the Camaro is (for now) making plenty of money. Until there is something to push GM to make the Z/28, it won't be made.
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No push? Ummm how about sales?
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:53 AM   #256
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There's no motivating factor to build a proper Z/28 anymore. There is no Trans Am racing to put the car in, the Ford BOSS 302 has run it's course and the Camaro is (for now) making plenty of money. Until there is something to push GM to make the Z/28, it won't be made.
I agree with you sort off.

Yes GM should have built it sooner to compete with the BOSS....BUT when the BOSS came out in 2012 it really had no competition either so that argument is invalid IMO.

The push I see is that they will need something to draw people into the Camaro with the 15 Mustang on the horizon. The new mustang is going to be a big deal, ditching retro, IRS its gonna be big. Also that means dealers will be heavily discounting the 14 models they have on lot increasing sales while people are also rushing to be the first with a 15.

GM will need something exciting to draw people back to Camaro, which is the case I see for a Z/28. Only problem I see witha Z/28 is in my opinion it will be way to close to the ZL1 in terms of performance and less price
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OSC, at least two points mitigate "something more"...

1) The BOSS may be "dead", post-'13, but I doubt its engine is. The next-Gen Stang is due April 17/14, as a MY '15...which leaves MY '14. I don't believe FoMoCo went to the bother of building a very stout n/a 5.0 just for the MY '12-'13 BOSS. There'll be a current-gen Grand Finale...or is that a GRANDE?...that will house that gem of an engine/drivetrain...

2) Gen-6 Camaro will arrive in the second half of '15 as a MY '16 offering...which leaves TWO FULL MODEL YEARS of Gen-5s to peddle. What better way to get folks into Chevy showrooms to look at Camaros than by offering the RETURN OF THE HUGGER? Done right, with the ZL1 having saturated its market somewhat by this summer/fall, the ZEE can generate sufficient excitement (and number$) to march the Gen-5 through to its summer-'15 conclusion...
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:56 PM   #258
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I agree totally, they won't rest on their laurels because they gen5 Camaro has already made its money back..as I have said many times, they still need to seek Camaros for 2 more years before the gen6 comes out and people will be holding onto their wallets prior to the release just to see if it is worth buying now or upgrading later. Putting a Z/28 in the lineup with specific exterior upgrades/enhances and even though i still don't agree with the LS7 in my Z/28, if thats what they choose it will sell cars. Period.
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:32 PM   #259
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I agree with you sort off.

Yes GM should have built it sooner to compete with the BOSS....BUT when the BOSS came out in 2012 it really had no competition either so that argument is invalid IMO.

The push I see is that they will need something to draw people into the Camaro with the 15 Mustang on the horizon. The new mustang is going to be a big deal, ditching retro, IRS its gonna be big. Also that means dealers will be heavily discounting the 14 models they have on lot increasing sales while people are also rushing to be the first with a 15.

GM will need something exciting to draw people back to Camaro, which is the case I see for a Z/28. Only problem I see witha Z/28 is in my opinion it will be way to close to the ZL1 in terms of performance and less price
It seems to me that Ford is a lot more willing to do things with the Mustang that GM will do with the Camaro. The LS7 won't see the inside of a Camaro as a factory engine. When the Camaro died in 2002, they didn't drop in the LS6 for a send off. The Camaro is making money right now and it probably will even when the new Mustang is revealed. If GM wanted to build an LS7 Z/28, it would exist by now.
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Old 03-01-2013, 11:26 PM   #261
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I'm not being a Debbie Downer. I've been waiting for the Z/28 since I saw the Camaro concept.
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I'm not being a Debbie Downer. I've been waiting for the Z/28 since I saw the Camaro concept.
I've been waiting since the day the concept was unveiled, it's been a very long wait!!
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Old 03-02-2013, 07:59 AM   #263
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Yep, agreed! I started saving my pennies after I watched the reveal online...went home showed my wife after work and said "babe, if they make that car, I'm buying one...showed up at the dealer October 13th, 2008 specified my color and options and put down my deposit and have "settled" driving my 2SS until the Z/28 rears its beautiful hips to the world!
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It seems to me that Ford is a lot more willing to do things with the Mustang that GM will do with the Camaro. The LS7 won't see the inside of a Camaro as a factory engine. When the Camaro died in 2002, they didn't drop in the LS6 for a send off. The Camaro is making money right now and it probably will even when the new Mustang is revealed. If GM wanted to build an LS7 Z/28, it would exist by now.
First comparing GM the way it was run 10 years ago to now it doesn't even look like the same company. They were canceling the Camaro and looking to save money not boost sales. Now, it is almost guaranteed to get the LS7, the only reason it isn't in a camaro now is because they are limited to the number of engines they can build and for some reason they chose the ZO6 to have it. Now the LS7 ZO6 is gone and has no home...which is why GM waited for the Camaro to get one. They had this planned since they started with the ZL1 which was about the same time they released the LS7 concept car.
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Old 03-02-2013, 08:39 AM   #265
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I know people who have seen it and they tell me it's coming. Living here in Detroit all my life has some advantages.
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he cannot confirm or deny that it is a z/28 tho
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First comparing GM the way it was run 10 years ago to now it doesn't even look like the same company. They were canceling the Camaro and looking to save money not boost sales. Now, it is almost guaranteed to get the LS7, the only reason it isn't in a camaro now is because they are limited to the number of engines they can build and for some reason they chose the ZO6 to have it. Now the LS7 ZO6 is gone and has no home...which is why GM waited for the Camaro to get one. They had this planned since they started with the ZL1 which was about the same time they released the LS7 concept car.
The LS7 was designed for the Z06. That's the reason it is in there. Where are you getting that it was ever planned to be in the Camaro?

The LS7 Camaro concept came out in 2008. Way before the production Camaro.

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The LS7 was designed for the Z06. That's the reason it is in there.

The LS7 Camaro came out before the production Camaro.
That was sarcasm in my post....i think we all know this and that is why there can be an LS7 now and why ther could not be one before.
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That was sarcasm in my post....i think we all know this and that is why there can be an LS7 now and why ther could not be one before.
The fact that an LS7 Camaro concept was built showed they at least considered it. We all know what an LS7 Camaro could do. We see what the 1LE can do. We know GM knows what it can do. That's the frustrating part in my mind. It would be an awesome track car. Probably one the closest thing to the original Z/28 we can get in a modern car bu GM doesn't bother to build it.
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Why would they not build it before the 6th gen? They know its their best shot a creating a huge hurrah (therefore sales) before a new model comes out. Its one of the Camaro's most recognized nameplates. It might not come with the LS7 after all, but a hot LS3 would probably satisfy just fine.

As for waiting for the 6th gen, the trend is usually to start with a base model (base v6, base v8) upon release and milk all the enthusiasm for the latest and greatest. Just like they are currently doing with the vette. This would push the Z release out even further.
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...the proper Z/28 will come in time,..the time I feel is not in the Gen 5 chassis as they want to have a lighter, stiffer, more track oriented suspension and chassis other than the older and heavier Holden Zeta. We probably will see a LS7/1LE/ZL1 parts based special edition on the way out however. That seems a given.
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