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Old 10-30-2012, 07:25 AM   #1
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Tires - problem or driver

Just curious if anybody else is having problem keeping the tires from spinning?

Here are the conditions
Automatic (manual mode) - 2 or 3 gear
Traction set to wet in rain, ass slips worse
Traction set to dry
Temp is around 40 degrees right now.
Not really applying to much pressure on the gas

Do I need to change my tires for something all weather or is this a driver problem?
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Old 10-30-2012, 07:58 AM   #2
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It's the cold ... I have the same problems with it only being 65 out.
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:06 AM   #3
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:30 AM   #4
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I was going to post similar obeservations below 60 these tires are almost dangerous. I drove it a few weeks ago in the morning when the temps first started dipping into the 50s and gave just a little more gas than required turning right from a stop and the back end got sideways. Be careful!
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:44 AM   #5
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37 this morning north of Houston. I know your not supposed to use the tires<40F, but I drove in this morning. Tires are slick as heck. I have not seen any cracking yet. As posted above, they get slick below 60, and progressively gets worse as it gets colder.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:05 AM   #6
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I'm a little concerned about performing an evasive maneuver to avoid an accident or debris on the road in the cold weather in this car, so I don't drive it in the cold or bad weather. I'd be willing to trade handling for better all weather performance if someone made a replacement tire in this size.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:09 AM   #7
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I don't understand the point of buying a $65,000 car and only be able to drive it if the weather is above 60 degrees..this is crazy.
GM should provide other tire options for those of us that want to drive our car all year round.

I have the sales manager from the dealer I bought my car from looking at other options to replace the tires. I have to get these tires off the car. I drive 400-1000 miles per week and need a car I can depend on to give me control when I need it.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:16 AM   #8
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Try these. Found them on Tire Rack myself as well...

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ght=cold+tires

Personally, I have had no issues with the Goodyears down to 50 degrees. Once they warm up a bit they aren't bad, even in the cold. I know they have lost some performance, though, so I don't try any cornering heroics. I can vouch for quick lane changes in 55 degree temps at faster than UT speed limits with no problem, however. Just don't hammer it at low speeds while turning.

Hope these work for you.
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Old 10-30-2012, 12:20 PM   #9
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its the temps. change out the tires for a more all season. they will proabably have better grip in those temps.
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Old 10-30-2012, 12:27 PM   #10
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Definetly the weather, these tires do not like cold. However, GM was very forward about the perfromance of the tires in cold weather. They stated several times these are summer performance tires and should be stored when temp drop below 40*, this is a performance vehicle designed on the ring and various other tracks. This is not a vehicle designed to plow through snow or skate across ice, at least not on the G:2 tires.
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Old 10-30-2012, 01:54 PM   #11
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So what are the recommended all weather tires for the car? Any recommendations?

My dealer doesn't even know what kind of all weather tires to put on the car.
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Old 10-30-2012, 02:08 PM   #12
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So what are the recommended all weather tires for the car? Any recommendations?

My dealer doesn't even know what kind of all weather tires to put on the car.
Pirelli Winter 210 Sottozero
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Old 10-30-2012, 02:53 PM   #13
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Pirelli Winter 210 Sottozero
Yep was recommended by Fbodfather way back when and was shown on the CTF vehicles they were testing in the winter...
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Old 10-31-2012, 05:39 PM   #14
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I don't understand the point of buying a $65,000 car and only be able to drive it if the weather is above 60 degrees..this is crazy.
GM should provide other tire options for those of us that want to drive our car all year round.
Because with anything other than full-summer tires...the car could not perform like the $55,000 it costs.

I've been driving it every day in 45-50º around here, lately...in the wet at those temps, too...you just need to be careful for the first few minutes of driving. Once they warm up, it's not bad at all. Also - PTM mode 1 (in the wet and pre-warm tires) helps a lot!

Always be mindful of the driving conditions, like any other car!
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Old 10-31-2012, 05:42 PM   #15
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I'd say a combo of cooler drier air making your car respond optimally and the tires and road being harder.
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Because with anything other than full-summer tires...the car could not perform like the $55,000 it costs.

I've been driving it every day in 45-50º around here, lately...in the wet at those temps, too...you just need to be careful for the first few minutes of driving. Once they warm up, it's not bad at all. Also - PTM mode 1 (in the wet and pre-warm tires) helps a lot!

Always be mindful of the driving conditions, like any other car!


How do you prewarm the tires? My car should be here any day now so I will need to know. Im sure if you understand how the tires react to the different temperatures and road conditions (Not snow or ice) you can drive the car like any other. Just dont FLOOR IT when the tires are cold!
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Old 10-31-2012, 05:51 PM   #17
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How do you prewarm the tires?
Sorry, I didn't mean it like that.

I should have just said "cold". With cold tires, or wet conditions, PTM 1 limits torque so the rear end won't jump out from beneath you if you hit the gas a little hard...after you drive a little and warm them up a bit - they're much more sticky.

A better idea is - like you said, become familiar with the car, and the road conditions and drive appropriately.
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:10 PM   #18
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The Grand Sport I traded in on the ZL1 had Goodyear Eagle F1 supercars (not G2's) like on the ZL1 and they were much easier to live with. I can't believe how slippery these tires are. When they are bald they are gone.
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How do you prewarm the tires? My car should be here any day now so I will need to know. Im sure if you understand how the tires react to the different temperatures and road conditions (Not snow or ice) you can drive the car like any other. Just dont FLOOR IT when the tires are cold!
Actually it's really inexpensive. Bout 25.00 at any auto parts store. Just walk in and ask for their least expensive tire warmer. They all work about the same.
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Sorry, I didn't mean it like that.

I should have just said "cold". With cold tires, or wet conditions, PTM 1 limits torque so the rear end won't jump out from beneath you if you hit the gas a little hard...after you drive a little and warm them up a bit - they're much more sticky.

A better idea is - like you said, become familiar with the car, and the road conditions and drive appropriately.
Well Thank you Mr. Wyndham. That helps alot. I think I may rent a car when the snow comes.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:32 PM   #21
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Actually it's really inexpensive. Bout 25.00 at any auto parts store. Just walk in and ask for their least expensive tire warmer. They all work about the same.
Thanks PQ. I will check into that.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:55 PM   #22
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I've had mine out in 40 F weather and as noted above they are very slippery. Reminds me of drag radials; super sticky in hot weather, hockey pucks in cold weather. They're also noticeably louder as well.

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How do you prewarm the tires?
A quick mini burn out helps warm them up quicker, otherwise it will take several minutes of regular driving to warm them up. Another option is you can do quick "S" turns like race drivers during caution laps, but I don't recommend that on the street.
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Old 11-01-2012, 06:41 AM   #23
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I think the easiest way to handle the winter time is to get SS sized wheels and shod them with winter tires. I picked up a set of SS wheels for $400 and they are having General G-Max tires installed on them as we speak and yes I prefit the wheels to make sure they work. The only issue I wll have is getting the TPMS monitors reset, but my car club president works at the local Chevy dealer so I hope this will be simple and inexpensive. The General G-Max in this size are less than $1000 installed.
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