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Old 10-31-2012, 02:18 PM   #35
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Quick question. Was the hood up or down for both the stock and CAI pulls?

25 RWHP looks really good nice with no tune.
Hood closed. We did, however, do a pull with the hood open and made 514hp. We wanted an indication on how our new air inlet product will perform.
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Old 11-01-2012, 10:46 PM   #36
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Posted by rpepka...
The thread is closed?

Any time line on the enhancements to the system?


I'm still not sure why this thread was temporarily closed. Anyway, we are striving to have some pics and a good description up for you by the first part of next week. This project has been a lot of fun and we are excited and anxious to share it with all of you!
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Old 11-02-2012, 07:25 AM   #37
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The thread is closed?

Any time line on the enhancements to the system?

I'm still not sure why this thread was temporarily closed. Anyway, we are striving to have some pics and a good description up for you by the first part of next week. This project has been a lot of fun and we are excited and anxious to share it with all of you!
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Old 11-02-2012, 12:14 PM   #38
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Can someone please explain to me why a "no-tune" intake is desireable on a Camaro ZL1? I thought the logic was that if you greatly increased air intake (by adding an aftermarket CAI), then you had to upload a program that increased fuel appropriately across the rev range in order to avoid running too lean and causing detonation. And any CAI which does not require a re-tune would not increase airflow enough to risk running lean would not increase airflow enough to increase horsepower very much. Is the LSA engine immune to this logic? Does the onboard computer sense the increased airflow and automatically compensate for it by adding fuel? If not, it seems to me that knock sensors would cause activation of the "limp home" mode

Good question. First, it really isn't our intention to label this intake as a "No tune" intake and we probably should not have labeled the thread as such. More accurately, it is an intake which doesn't require a tune. This means you can drop it in your car and realize a gain without setting a code or modifying your car's engine management system. This is possible because the car will adjust (to a point) to the additional air flow without any issues. In other words, our system allows for increases in power while staying within the limits of the engine management system. We have a unique intake design and MAF sensor configuration which accurately reports air flow across the RPM range. That sounds simple, but it has been the "hurdle" for most of us with the ZL1! There are several benefits to this system for ZL1 owners-

No modifications required to the car for installation of this intake

No tuning required

Excellent air intake for those who choose power additives and/or tune later

Much more aggressive sound

Great appearance

Although our intake doesn't require a tune, it does have all of the features you want when you decide to introduce more power additives. Our SS systems have been very popular with the S/C crowd due to our large filter size, air box volume, heat isolation and inlet duct size and design. This intake has the same qualities along with an even larger MAF housing ID. You will find another thread in the ZL1 section displaying a 700+ RWHP ZL1 using this exact intake.

For some, an air intake may be their only mod, for others it's simply part of a long list. This is a great intake system for either!
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Old 11-02-2012, 12:23 PM   #39
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Can someone please explain to me why a "no-tune" intake is desireable on a Camaro ZL1? I thought the logic was that if you greatly increased air intake (by adding an aftermarket CAI), then you had to upload a program that increased fuel appropriately across the rev range in order to avoid running too lean and causing detonation. And any CAI which does not require a re-tune would not increase airflow enough to risk running lean would not increase airflow enough to increase horsepower very much. Is the LSA engine immune to this logic? Does the onboard computer sense the increased airflow and automatically compensate for it by adding fuel? If not, it seems to me that knock sensors would cause activation of the "limp home" mode

Good question. First, it really isn't our intention to label this intake as a "No tune" intake and we probably should not have labeled the thread as such. More accurately, it is an intake which doesn't require a tune. This means you can drop it in your car and realize a gain without setting a code or modifying your car's engine management system. This is possible because the car will adjust (to a point) to the additional air flow without any issues. In other words, our system allows for increases in power while staying within the limits of the engine management system. We have a unique intake design and MAF sensor configuration which accurately reports air flow across the RPM range. That sounds simple, but it has been the "hurdle" for most of us with the ZL1! There are several benefits to this system for ZL1 owners-

No modifications required to the car for installation of this intake

No tuning required

Excellent air intake for those who choose power additives and/or tune later

Much more aggressive sound

Great appearance

Although our intake doesn't require a tune, it does have all of the features you want when you decide to introduce more power additives. Our SS systems have been very popular with the S/C crowd due to our large filter size, air box volume, heat isolation and inlet duct size and design. This intake has the same qualities along with an even larger MAF housing ID. You will find another thread in the ZL1 section displaying a 700+ RWHP ZL1 using this exact intake.

For some, an air intake may be their only mod, for others it's simply part of a long list. This is a great intake system for either!

What a great explanation. Ordered mine earlier this week will be here on Monday, cant wait. Thanks for all your hard work in designing this intake. Should be a great choice as a stand alone modification, or a complimentary mod.
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Old 11-02-2012, 12:29 PM   #40
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For some, an air intake may be their only mod, for others it's simply part of a long list. This is a great intake system for either!
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Old 11-02-2012, 12:32 PM   #41
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Old 11-02-2012, 12:34 PM   #42
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What is the possibility of a group order?

I would like the CAI and the Strut bar done in CF.
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Old 11-02-2012, 02:10 PM   #43
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The ZL1 intake system itself is finished. We are now working on an additional air inlet source which we hope to have finished and tested in the next couple of weeks.
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Ok Im a believer let me know when this is completed and I'll place my order. And this time I'll be more patient
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Old 11-02-2012, 03:01 PM   #44
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Looking to place order, looked on website and it says 2012.

I am assuming that it fits the 2013 as well?
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Old 11-02-2012, 03:13 PM   #45
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Looking to place order, looked on website and it says 2012.

I am assuming that it fits the 2013 as well?
Correct. A 2013 was used to produce the dyno #s on this thread.
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Old 11-02-2012, 07:31 PM   #46
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I thought Jannetty Racing said that the combo of CAI and pulley would require a tune.
Actually What I said was currently available CAIs need tuning, Things change daily just like in this case.

One or the other does not need a tune, together will be tested next week when I get back from SEMA.

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Old 11-02-2012, 09:11 PM   #47
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Actually What I said was currently available CAIs need tuning, Things change daily just like in this case.

One or the other does not need a tune, together will be tested next week when I get back from SEMA.

Ted.
Can't wait to see the results. Also if Ted backs up the Roto-Fab CAI produces the numbers posted above on a stock ZL1 it could be a great mod for those wanting to keep their warranties intact.
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Can't wait to see the results. Also if Ted backs up the Roto-Fab CAI produces the numbers posted above on a stock ZL1 it could be a great mod for those wanting to keep their warranties intact.
If all goes as Planned tomorrow is the Big Day.
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