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Old 10-31-2012, 10:05 PM   #1
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Moving from a Roush to a ZL1

My wife drives a 2007 Roush 427R. I would like to surprise her at Christmas with a Camaro ZL1 convertible. What she loves is gobs of torque and quickness 0-60 (she's German, loves American muscle cars, and refuses to drive any car with an automatic transmission). She still likes her Roush, and doesn't think it's necessary get a new car (which is why this has to be a surprise).

I have read every review out there, but would like to tap into the collective expertise that exists here.

1. She loves the sound of the Roush. Will she get that same (or similar) sound from the ZL1?

2. She really likes how the Roush can slam her back in the seat . . . I'm assuming that she'll have that same experience with the ZL1? Is it likely that she'll notice that the ZL1 is faster (as best as I can determine, the ZL1 is .3 or .4 seconds faster to 60)?

3. I know (from what I've read) that the ZL1 is much more civilized, that it offers better handling, is smoother, etc. Coming from a Roush, I'm worried that it is, maybe, a bit too refined?

Thanks for any and all advice and counsel.
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Old 10-31-2012, 11:20 PM   #2
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Why not test drive one and judge it for yourself. That way you can compare the two cars yourself rather than relying on opinions here.?

My ZL1 is a wonderful powerful car to me, but I've never driven a Roush 427R so I can't tell you much.

I think you'll find that the Roush will probably slam you a bit more, the ZL1 is just a wonderful refined smooth car with PLENTY of power. I think you'll like the way the ZL1 rides and handles better than the Roush, but that's just my opinion.

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Old 11-01-2012, 06:18 AM   #3
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If she likes power then you should know what car to get the gt 500
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Old 11-01-2012, 07:17 AM   #4
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1. The ZL1 definitely plants you in your seat with 580 HP 2. The stock dual-mode exhaust sounds mean! It's the best sounding stock exhaust GM has ever put out IMO. GM is notorious for putting out meak and meager stock systems, but this sounds similar to my Vert's Flowmasters...WOW!
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:10 AM   #5
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Be advised that the CONVERIBLE has the "competitive driving mode" not the 5 mode PTM as the coupe has. I love my VERT but did not find this out until after I bought it. More disappointed but still happy with the VERT as we still have 70 degree days here in Colorado.
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:18 AM   #6
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:44 AM   #7
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Be advised that the CONVERIBLE has the "competitive driving mode" not the 5 mode PTM as the coupe has. I love my VERT but did not find this out until after I bought it.
Yes, I had read that. She really wants the vert, and I believe that that trumps any concern it not having the same PTM.

Thanks to all who have weighed in . . . I am trying to arrange a test drive.
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:53 AM   #8
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From it's inception the Mustang was designed as a girl's car. Someone at Ford had it designed for his secretary. So I believe it's lines and proportions may trigger an innate bond to the car your wife may have. We know this is true because men who drive Mustangs lack testosterone. That said I hope she likes the Camaro. Good luck.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:21 AM   #9
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:36 AM   #10
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Ouch..

If I knew how a Rouch sounded off the top of my head I could help. I do however, like the ZL1 exhaust. It has a great tone and is just right IMO. Since you are in Texas come on down and test drive mine.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:49 AM   #11
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My wife drives a 2007 Roush 427R. I would like to surprise her at Christmas with a Camaro ZL1 convertible. What she loves is gobs of torque and quickness 0-60 (she's German, loves American muscle cars, and refuses to drive any car with an automatic transmission). She still likes her Roush, and doesn't think it's necessary get a new car (which is why this has to be a surprise).

I have read every review out there, but would like to tap into the collective expertise that exists here.

1. She loves the sound of the Roush. Will she get that same (or similar) sound from the ZL1?

2. She really likes how the Roush can slam her back in the seat . . . I'm assuming that she'll have that same experience with the ZL1? Is it likely that she'll notice that the ZL1 is faster (as best as I can determine, the ZL1 is .3 or .4 seconds faster to 60)?

3. I know (from what I've read) that the ZL1 is much more civilized, that it offers better handling, is smoother, etc. Coming from a Roush, I'm worried that it is, maybe, a bit too refined?

Thanks for any and all advice and counsel.
I previously had a supercharged Roush convertible, so I know that experience. The whine is awesome, the suspension is awesome, it's a little more "rough around the edges" and definitely not a girl's car. That's why I prefered the Camaro because the ride was a little smoother. I have not driven a ZL1, but I assume it's just smoother, but likely powerful. I don't think you'll know unless you do a test drive, and I don't think you should surprise her with this. I think she should either want it or not. Driving performance cars is a very personal experience. I miss the Roush, it was just getting to be a high maintenance vehicle that I couldn't keep up with. The new Roush vehicles don't manufacture their own body parts, so why not get her a new Roush, if you want to get her something new. I love my Camaro, but I would love a Roush too........
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Old 11-01-2012, 11:06 AM   #12
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Old 11-01-2012, 11:08 AM   #13
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Old 11-01-2012, 11:12 AM   #14
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Why not test drive one and judge it for yourself?
Most dealers in my area don't let anyone test drive a ZL1. Most guys looking for a ZL1 already know exactly what it is and know why they want it. Some potential customers would pass on a ZL1 from a dealer's stock specifically because it had a few extra miles on it from test drives. Dealers around here will let you test drive an SS if you need to see if it will fit you properly and you will be comfortable with the seating position and control placement. Someone wanting to test drive a ZL1 instead of an SS just to experience the power of the ZL1 is not good for the car, since the test driver will be ignoring the break-in instructions during his test drive. Again, a reason for people serious about buying a ZL1 to turn the test-driven car down and buy elsewhere.
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Old 11-01-2012, 11:29 AM   #15
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ours is a coupe but my wife likes our ZL1 more than our old Z06. the Z06 was more raw in every way. stinger exhaust, more agresive power band. she just likes the way the ZL1 drives.

as far as exhaust sound I think roush just uses magnaflow. I know they used to. the stock exhaust on the ZL1 is livable with the fuse pulled or mild to wild controler.

If you are a blower whine guy the ZL1 is less than the roushes I have heard. I am not. exhaust sound more than blower whine.
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Old 11-01-2012, 12:11 PM   #16
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Ive never been much of a Roush fan but your 427R will be more of a brute to drive then the zl1.
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Old 11-01-2012, 12:50 PM   #17
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IMO the Roush exhaust is killer. Sounds more raspy than the ZL1. I would also think the ZL1 would have the "slammed into the seat" feeling over the Mustang, just from seeing the specs on each and the TQ listing between the two. Mustang would be more raw to drive, with less weight and less suspension settings...

Either way good choices.... Good Luck.
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:20 PM   #18
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LOL, I have a friend with a black element part next to my black TBSS, he said, wow, my car is like your trucks gay little brother!
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:22 PM   #19
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The zl1 is more of a car that you know goes fast, but cant tell until you look down at the spedometer, at least for me. It puts you back and will light the tires up, but the power delivery is so smooth that its pull is linear, so it does not give you that harsh power delivery. I have driven and ride some fast stuff, so its not truely a fair comparison when i am comparing to things like my 08 zx-10r and 12 zx-14r.
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:27 PM   #20
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He had that one coming. I think if i was him i would have left that section blank when customizing my profile... or lied and said i was driving something else.
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:29 PM   #21
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It kills me how people hate on mustangs.the only reason the camaro is here is because of the stang
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