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Old 06-10-2009, 10:46 AM   #26
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i am new at all this how do i copy songs to my flash drive from a cd? do i need some kind of software?
windows media player 10 or 11 will have a rip tab at the top, you can use that to rip songs from the cd into a file that can be put onto a flash drive.
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Old 06-10-2009, 07:50 PM   #27
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Whenever I plug my ipod or thumb drive in the usb nothing happens. My thumb drive lights up for a second and then goes out. The ipod does nothing but light up when I turn the radio off. I can't get any type of menu to come up. The radio portion works fine.
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Whenever I plug my ipod or thumb drive in the usb nothing happens. My thumb drive lights up for a second and then goes out. The ipod does nothing but light up when I turn the radio off. I can't get any type of menu to come up. The radio portion works fine.
Which iPod do you have?
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windows media player 10 or 11 will have a rip tab at the top, you can use that to rip songs from the cd into a file that can be put onto a flash drive.
so when i rip them to the flash drive thats all i need to do to get them to play?
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The manual says that the first 10,000 songs are recognized, but with my thumb drive, it doesn't index all the songs. I have several full albums on there but it only recognizes about half of them. It shows the folders but not the songs. Anyone seeing anything similar?
So I just clarified the amount of songs that the unit can index, and it's 2,500, not 10,000 like the manual indicates. I'm really sorry for any confusion that this has caused. I know this is a real bummer for those of you who wanted to hook up a huge flash drive and be able to play all your music from that. The only real workaround that I've been able to figure out is to use an iPod. Since that indexes the songs itself, we are able to see its entire collection, no matter how many songs are on it. I know that's not what you wanted to hear, but I wanted to be open with you guys.
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Whenever I plug my ipod or thumb drive in the usb nothing happens. My thumb drive lights up for a second and then goes out. The ipod does nothing but light up when I turn the radio off. I can't get any type of menu to come up. The radio portion works fine.
Reply back with what iPod you're trying to use and what types of files you have on your thumb drive. It could be that your iPod is not one of the supported ones and your thumb drive doesn't have the right type of music on it. You'll need MP3 or WMA files on your thumb drive to play, and you need a relatively new iPod (within the last 2-3 years or so) to be recognized. If you do have both of these, let me know and I'll give you a few other things to try.
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Ok So there is a limit of 2500 songs that can be indexed from the USB flash drive and to get around this you need a PlaysForSure Device that will index the songs first. Is there a list of such devices and can you have an unlimited amout of songs (limited by the storage of the player)

I have about 55gb of music and was hoping to just put in a hard drive in and leave it at that.

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Old 06-11-2009, 11:59 AM   #33
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Ok So there is a limit of 2500 songs that can be indexed from the USB flash drive and to get around this you need a PlaysForSure Device that will index the songs first. Is there a list of such devices and can you have an unlimited amout of songs (limited by the storage of the player)

I have about 55gb of music and was hoping to just put in a hard drive in and leave it at that.

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No, a PlaysForSure device will have the same limitations as a USB drive. When those connect up, they act almost identially to a flash drive where the vehicle has to index the whole thing. Actual iPods are the only ones that do the indexing themselves, so for you you'd have to grab a 5th Gen or newer iPod classic to fit your 55 gig of music.
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Old 06-11-2009, 01:06 PM   #34
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Ok,

Thanks for clarifying this, i must admit it is a bit of a dissapointment but I'm sure i can find an ipod cheap enought.

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Old 06-11-2009, 02:38 PM   #35
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So I just clarified the amount of songs that the unit can index, and it's 2,500, not 10,000 like the manual indicates. I'm really sorry for any confusion that this has caused. I know this is a real bummer for those of you who wanted to hook up a huge flash drive and be able to play all your music from that. The only real workaround that I've been able to figure out is to use an iPod. Since that indexes the songs itself, we are able to see its entire collection, no matter how many songs are on it. I know that's not what you wanted to hear, but I wanted to be open with you guys.

ARG. That reeeeeaaaalllllyyyy sucks. Any chance of an update...soon.... to fix this? I've got a Zune and just bought a 32gb drive just for this. So basically my only option is to buy an iPod (not gonna happen) or use the aux port with my Zune...

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Old 06-11-2009, 03:10 PM   #36
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Old 06-11-2009, 03:17 PM   #37
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Reply back with what iPod you're trying to use and what types of files you have on your thumb drive. It could be that your iPod is not one of the supported ones and your thumb drive doesn't have the right type of music on it. You'll need MP3 or WMA files on your thumb drive to play, and you need a relatively new iPod (within the last 2-3 years or so) to be recognized. If you do have both of these, let me know and I'll give you a few other things to try.
I tried two different ipods a touch and a nano both are the latest models less than 1 year old. I pushed the aux button about 100 times.
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ARG. That reeeeeaaaalllllyyyy sucks. Any chance of an update...soon.... to fix this? I've got a Zune and just bought a 32gb drive just for this. So basically my only option is to buy an iPod (not gonna happen) or use the aux port with my Zune...
Yeah I know it sucks. I'm really sorry guys. And unfortunately, a software update can't fix it. It's a physical memory limitation in the PDIM that it can't store the index for more than those 2,500 songs. We're working on getting more memory in the PDIM, but that involves getting a new module. It would be compatable with the head unit, but you'd have to replace the PDIM module, not just a software update.

Another option is to get a Bluetooth device to stream you music from.
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I tried two different ipods a touch and a nano both are the latest models less than 1 year old. I pushed the aux button about 100 times.
When you press the aux button to get to the aux jack input, press the menu button and see if the Bluetooth setup menu comes up. If so, then your PDIM module functioning but just isn't seeing a USB connection for some reason.

One other question...was this all in one ignition cycle, or was this separate occasions? The PDIM may have locked up for some reason and just needed a restart.
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Ok,

Thanks for clarifying this, i must admit it is a bit of a dissapointment but I'm sure i can find an ipod cheap enought.

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The good thing is you could even get a used one with a dinged up screen or something like that because it'll just be sitting in your center console. As long as it has a functioning hard drive, that's all you'd need.
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Yeah I know it sucks. I'm really sorry guys. And unfortunately, a software update can't fix it. It's a physical memory limitation in the PDIM that it can't store the index for more than those 2,500 songs. We're working on getting more memory in the PDIM, but that involves getting a new module. It would be compatable with the head unit, but you'd have to replace the PDIM module, not just a software update.

Another option is to get a Bluetooth device to stream you music from.
I'm sure it has some sort of solid state storage... or what about storing a full index on the USB drive and loading chunks of it into memory or something. I know it would be complicated but there's gotta be a way around it. Or how about indexing less fields if there's over 2500 songs. (just tossing some ideas out there).

How does it handle the > 2500 case? It just pretends that the files aren't there?

What about putting all your songs into a playlist on the root of the drive. Will it be able to reference the songs from that playlist? So if I have a playlist with 5000 songs in it. It gets to one in the playlist that isn't in the PDIM's index... will it skip over the song or...?

And what format playlists can it handle? M3U? PLS?

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Old 06-11-2009, 06:54 PM   #42
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When you press the aux button to get to the aux jack input, press the menu button and see if the Bluetooth setup menu comes up. If so, then your PDIM module functioning but just isn't seeing a USB connection for some reason.

One other question...was this all in one ignition cycle, or was this separate occasions? The PDIM may have locked up for some reason and just needed a restart.
The Bluetooth setup menu does come up. I have tried it in different ignition cycles with the same result. I guess I am screwed. Should I take it to the dealer or do you have any other suggestions?
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Old 06-12-2009, 09:26 AM   #43
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The Bluetooth setup menu does come up. I have tried it in different ignition cycles with the same result. I guess I am screwed. Should I take it to the dealer or do you have any other suggestions?
Unfortunately, it seems like there might be something wrong with the USB port wiring. If the devices are 'turning on' when you plug it in, the 5V might be getting to the port (which also comes from the PDIM), but there might be something wrong with the data lines.

When you plug in a USB drive or some device (heck, even a phone), a message should pop up saying that the device is not supported. If you aren't getting any messages when you connect up a device, then there is no communication between the PDIM and your USB device. It seems very likely to be a wiring issue, or something wrong with the USB side of the PDIM. It's pretty tough to tell from your side.

I do recommend taking it in to the dealer giving them this information to help them diagnose the issue that you're seeing. Let me know if there's anything else that comes up along the way.
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my USB drive connects, indexes the songs, and shows that a song is playing.... but all i hear is static.

It plays CD's, XM, and FM just fine.

I have tried 3 different USB drives (all FAT32 formatted). All have the same result. Hope mine is not a lemon.

Anyone have any ideas about what would cause this?

Or is anyone else having this issue?
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my USB drive connects, indexes the songs, and shows that a song is playing.... but all i hear is static.

It plays CD's, XM, and FM just fine.

I have tried 3 different USB drives (all FAT32 formatted). All have the same result. Hope mine is not a lemon.

Anyone have any ideas about what would cause this?

Or is anyone else having this issue?
I'm sorry that you're having problems with the USB input on your new car. It sounds like there might be a bad audio connection between the PDIM and your head unit. If you have an audio player and an aux jack cable, try connecting the audio player into the aux jack and see if there's static with that too. That connection is the input right next to the USB jack. If there's static there too, it's definitely the audio connection to the head unit, and your dealer would have to fix this.
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So after reading this. My I pod is not working in the Camaro.
It is 60Gig with 53Gig if music.all in music directory.
If I set up play lists on the I-pod. The camaro will then see the I pod.
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I'm sorry that you're having problems with the USB input on your new car. It sounds like there might be a bad audio connection between the PDIM and your head unit. If you have an audio player and an aux jack cable, try connecting the audio player into the aux jack and see if there's static with that too. That connection is the input right next to the USB jack. If there's static there too, it's definitely the audio connection to the head unit, and your dealer would have to fix this.
good info.. thanks !!!

... i didnt think about that... didnt know that the PDIM was separate from the stereo !!
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No, a PlaysForSure device will have the same limitations as a USB drive. When those connect up, they act almost identially to a flash drive where the vehicle has to index the whole thing. Actual iPods are the only ones that do the indexing themselves, so for you you'd have to grab a 5th Gen or newer iPod classic to fit your 55 gig of music.
@codeman71 - I've got Sansas, an e260 and e280. They are allegedly "PlaysForSure". I haven't tried them in a Camaro (waiting for it) yet. Both devices have 2 USB modes - MTP and MSC. Where one mode allows for dragging mp3 files over as if it were removable media. The other mode allows WMP to "syncronize" mp3's and playlists. So, provided that the player is in the 2nd mode will the Camaro still need to do the indexing itself?

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@codeman71 - I've got Sansas, an e260 and e280. They are allegedly "PlaysForSure". I haven't tried them in a Camaro (waiting for it) yet. Both devices have 2 USB modes - MTP and MSC. Where one mode allows for dragging mp3 files over as if it were removable media. The other mode allows WMP to "syncronize" mp3's and playlists. So, provided that the player is in the 2nd mode will the Camaro still need to do the indexing itself?

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Yes. Only iPods take care of the indexing on behalf of the car.
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This may seem really obvious to some but when I ripped my first thumb drive using MS Media player there were a bunch of songs that wouldn't play. The folders in folders view were there but no songs in the folders showed up when I plugged it into the Camaro. So...I plugged the thumb drive back into my computer and checked the properties of the songs that would not show up. For some reason, the songs that wouldn't play were "protected". You can check this by moving the pointer over the file name in the explorer view of the thumb drive. I can't remember what setting I change in the Rip option of Media Player, but it had to do with "copy protected music" and I either checked or unchecked this option, I can't remember. Which ever it was when I ripped those songs again they were unprotected and played when I connected the thumb drive to the Camaro.
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