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Old 11-04-2012, 07:07 PM   #1
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Question/Smartest way to buy ZL1

Hey guys I am 27 years old and a NYS corrections officer, I typically bring in 70-80k a year based on if I feel like working overtime or not..I basically write my own paycheck. I was interested in buying a ZL1 but cant decide if I want to wait and buy used to buy new. Whats the best way to go about this? Are most of you keeping your ZL1 for good and this is your last performance car or will you guys trade in? I was going to put 20k down. My live in gf will help with bills and other things or payments whichever. Im not worried if I can afford or not but I dont want to waste money. Have any of you ever though about getting a SS and putting a ZL1 front bumper on it? Or making it look like a ZL1 and then eventually dropping 8k and putting a much larger blower on it than what currently comes stock? That second option would cost less than a ZL1? Jw why nobody does this.



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Old 11-04-2012, 07:11 PM   #2
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I would rather get a ZL1 new, I bet you won't find many used that are much less than new MSRP, especially with little mileage.

There are a lot of owners on here that have installed the ZL1 front end and it looks good, it's really a matter of what you want. I think for less you can hot rod an SS to be faster than a ZL1, but you won't have the fancy magnetic suspension. The plus side is have a unique Camaro built the way you like it.
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Old 11-04-2012, 07:13 PM   #3
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I bought mine and plan on keeping it forever until someone or some external event makes me drop it.

If you're looking for one, I know one available just outside Philly. White, silver rims, unknown insert unknown tranny
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:13 PM   #4
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So if I took a SS 1LE and put the front end on and ZL1 hood..the only things im not getting are magnetic ride and SC right? Everything else I could install for a reasonable price right?
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:17 PM   #5
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I would buy new if you want something unmolested and original. I see a large percentage of the cars getting modded one way or another. I would never buy a used performance car seeing how most are treated.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:19 PM   #6
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If you can write your own paychecks , you may as well write the one for the ZL and be done with that . Why would you want to be a want to be , if you can really be it ?
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:23 PM   #7
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So if I took a SS 1LE and put the front end on and ZL1 hood..the only things im not getting are magnetic ride and SC right? Everything else I could install for a reasonable price right?
To answer your question, not quite.
There are upgades to the LSA over the LS3 for FI use.
The brakes are different too.
The SS has an aluminum rear end and the ZL1 has an iron case and huge axles although I'm not sure which one the 1LE is getting.
I do know the 1LE is 3.91 vs the ZL1's 3.73 ratio.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:35 PM   #8
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I bought my ZL 1 as a place holder while waiting for the Gen 7 Vette to come available. I have my favorite Chevy peddler at the ready to let me know when preorders are going to be taken. I'm told this should be some time in March 2013. While I have the ZL, it won't be going to the track. There will always be somone faster. Neither will the car be driven like a "GD" Prius. But it will be properly maintained (oil and filter change at 1500 miles after break in as an example), garage kept and professionally detailed every 6 months. Mine will be on the market and would be a case for buying low mileage used.

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Old 11-04-2012, 08:38 PM   #9
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Have to disagree to a point, just because they are used doesn't mean they were mistreated and molested. When I traded my SS is was immaculate and babied from day 1....my Z is no different. Buying used can save significant dollars down the road if the right opportunity presents itself. Personal preference, my daily driver luxury cars have been slightly used when purchased and I have had nothing but great luck.
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:09 PM   #10
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So if I took a SS 1LE and put the front end on and ZL1 hood..the only things im not getting are magnetic ride and SC right? Everything else I could install for a reasonable price right?
Not quite that simple. The ZL1 contains about 35% different parts than the SS. In addition to SC and mag ride (which should NOT be underestimated) the ZL1 has a much stronger Rear end diff, better brakes, engine cooler, tranny cooler, rear end cooler, PTM system, transmission, no lift shift, brake ducts, belly pan, aero package etc.
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:13 PM   #11
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If you want a ZL1, you will need to buy a ZL1...there are no shortcuts. Now you can certainly build a clone..(please don't badge it as a ZL1) that would look like a Z, but you wouldn't be able to add, the magnetic suspension or performance traction management. You certainly could add all the other components, but in the end you would spend more money than just buying one...and you would have no warranty. I see no problem with buying a used one, as long as you get it checked out. I was surprised to see a few online already and it may be an option to save a few dollars. If you are more interested in having the looks of the Z, and want to save some dollars, certainly do a clone. I think you could do the front end for probably $2500.00. That wouldn't cover the cost the hood, and that puppy is pretty pricey from what I was told. I was quoted over 2k for the carbon fiber hood insert alone.
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:34 PM   #12
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:51 PM   #13
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Im just going to buy a ZL1. The only reason I debated this is because I got excited about it and made the mistake of talking about it to non car enthusiasts who proceeded to tell me that 52-55k was too much for a car and others said to just supercharge a SS and smoke a ZL1 but truthfully id be much happier with a ZL1 so im just going to go that route and enjoy it ..ill prolly keep it for a lifetime or possibly upgrade it when im in my 50's.
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:58 PM   #14
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Im just going to buy a ZL1. The only reason I debated this is because I got excited about it and made the mistake of talking about it to non car enthusiasts who proceeded to tell me that 52-55k was too much for a car and others said to just supercharge a SS and smoke a ZL1 but truthfully id be much happier with a ZL1 so im just going to go that route and enjoy it ..ill prolly keep it for a lifetime or possibly upgrade it when im in my 50's.
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Old 11-04-2012, 10:23 PM   #15
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Right now im stashing money away..need 10k more for a 20k down payment..i should be looking to get mine in the early summer of 2013 unless I find out if there will be a 2014 ZL1 or not then I may just order one of those when available. Im excited!
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:11 AM   #16
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Someone on the forum is selling a low mileage 2012 ZL1 for $54k. You can talk him down to kbb value which is $52k for an excellent value used ZL1. Check the for sale thread.

Owner has a ZR1 and a Corvette convertible as well and ZL1 has 16xx miles on it, pampered.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:21 AM   #17
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I saw that! I don't get why ppl try and sell above ebb other than supra owners but thx I'll see what I can do!
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:42 AM   #18
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Get the ZL1. Im just over in Elmira and I havent seen one yet in person haha.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:46 AM   #19
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I see people prizing these, keeping the miles down, and keeping them pristene. Then something better will come out in 2-3 years, and they will be a good buy on the used car market. I'm waiting for a like new used one...
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:49 AM   #20
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If you do not own a house yet, and you are not married, and you have no kids, my advice is do not even think about buying a ZL1 yet.

If you do not own a home yet: Save your money, it's a buyers market...find a house with a huge garage. Do not buy a ZL1 until you have at least 2 or 3 cars, so that you can leave your ZL1 at home where it belongs. To me there is no sense in completely destroying a ZL1 by driving it daily (example: ZL1 driving behind a cement truck, means you likely will need a new windshield within a week, and you will drive over nails and each tire costs 500.00. You will be buying one new tire every month if your ZL1 is a daily driver).

IF you TRULY like to throw caution to the wind, then just buy the ZL1 right now. Or if you already own a house and you have a garage to store your exotic top-of-the-line dream car, then go buy the ZL1.

To me, you use a dumpy pickup truck for work, and the Nice ZL1 for play on days off. That's my attitude but others may not agree and to each his own. I don't have a ZL1 but I already know all the nightmare that comes with having a car like that. starting with every single male human in the world probably walking up to you every 10 minutes to talk about your car. That's a good reason right there to leave it at home. So you don't have to be stalked by Beavis or Butthead.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:58 AM   #21
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There are a couple for 52K on autotrader. One has 75 miles. Maybe try talking them down to high 40's.
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:06 AM   #22
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I live in Elmira! Yes bought my own home when I was 24..im turning 27 now..you live in Elmira sonic?
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:07 AM   #23
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If you don't care about the supercharger then get the SS. In my opinion it looks better than the ZL1 anyway.
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:09 AM   #24
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I live in Elmira! Yes bought my own home when I was 24..im turning 27 now..you live in Elmira sonic?
Ya, technically in Big Flats.
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:11 AM   #25
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Im in corning..sold my vette last yr..co owned with father..I have a 2013 dart dipaid for
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