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Old 11-07-2012, 11:53 AM   #1
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2012 SS vs 2011 Mustang GT

Going to PBIR tonight for a little sibling rivalry/grudge match.

Mine: 2012 L99 with intake, tune, axelback

His: 2011 GT, manual, with intake, tune, axelback

He's always had a faster car - my lightnings put up a decent fight but were always slower and I never modified them.

What do you guys think? My take: if he has anything resembling traction problems, I should be able to hang with or beat him, but if he hooks, it should be close!

Not only is my car heavier, but I'm considerably heavier than he is - maybe I'll sneak my wife into the driver's seat, I've got her by 200 lbs.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:03 PM   #2
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Fairly common knowledge around here but it'll be close. I'd give the advantage to your brother because of the weight.

My local track most stock Mustangs average around a 13 flat and Camaros around a low to a mid 13. Not sure if its because of weight or rear suspension or gearing. Average a 2500 DA here during the summer.

Driver skill is going to play a larger part than weight or rear suspension between you two in my opinion.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:52 PM   #3
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Unless he's a complete meat sack, he should win, comfortably.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:53 PM   #4
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If he can drive the Mustang will win.
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:59 PM   #5
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OP needs more mods to beat the car if the Mustang driver is good. With no driver error and the right conditions thats a high 12 second car vs a mid 12 second car. 1/2 second difference in drag racing isnt even close in my book.
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Old 11-07-2012, 02:32 PM   #6
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Add some headers...
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Old 11-07-2012, 03:11 PM   #7
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My list of mods will be updated if tonight doesn't go well - haha.

Sadly, he's a damn good driver.

Blufin, you comin?
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:17 PM   #8
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Nope. Had to work. The car is also out of commission Waiting on my new clutch to arrive. Hope it went well. Report?
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:31 PM   #9
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If he can drive, the Mustang will win.


Xavier, your car looks great with those ZL1 wheels too!
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:49 AM   #10
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Thank you LC.

Update - the track wasn't terribly busy, lots of quick cars...and mine wasn't one of them. My christmas list just got a whole lot bigger and more expensive.

Best of 4 runs (although I could have gone at least 8 times) was 13.2 at 106. 60's were pretty ugly. Car felt fast, but the slips said otherwise.

Mustang ran a best of 13.1 at 113, traction problems all night, especially the left lane.

It was a ton of fun, but I can't hide my disappointment.

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Old 11-08-2012, 07:59 AM   #11
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What pressure were you running in the tires? I almost made it out there last night with a bunch of friends but they all backed out last minute.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:07 AM   #12
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My rears were sittin at 26. Which reminds me, I should get em back up a bit.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:51 AM   #13
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Was your brother pedalling the first 8th mile? That sixty foot plus that ET would typically mean about a 108/109mph trap in a manual car. Not to mention he's picking up 26mph on the big end. Looks like the first half of the track was really slick, or maybe he was shifting *really* slowly.
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:17 AM   #14
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He was babying it - the second to last run he spun 1st thru 2nd and sloppied into 3rd and rolled it down the track. The last run, he launched light, hit second quickly but didn't stab it then reeled me in (and fast) at the end.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:55 AM   #15
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If you had some DR's on you would have beat him. If you both had DR's he would have destroyed you. Look at the trap speed difference.
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Old 11-08-2012, 11:23 AM   #16
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you had him till 1000' than he blewbyyou hey.
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Couple months ago we a few of us were at the track playing with one of my buddies 2010 Z06 automatic.Between 4 of us NO ONE was able to get out of the 12's.

I believe torque managnent was killing us that night, when launching the car would take off and fall flat on it's face.
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:37 PM   #17
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With his trap speed, that's a 12.4-12.5 with a good launch.

Well at least you had a good time. Hopefully this cool weather will hold out long enough for me to get my car back and get out there for some fun.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:37 PM   #18
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LS3 conversion and headers and you'll be okay! haha
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:39 PM   #19
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That seems like a pretty low trap speed for your mods.
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:01 AM   #20
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@Deki, I agree - will get to the bottom of this!
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:50 AM   #21
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Nice runs. Good speed on that Coyote!

Bring on the mods' I recommend a good converter and DRs. You won't get faster on the same money with anything else, as long as the tune is good.
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:54 AM   #22
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When I swapped the TC in my 95 Lightning, the driveability was pretty much shot, won't the same thing happen if I go with a higher stall on the Camaro?
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:42 AM   #23
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When I swapped the TC in my 95 Lightning, the driveability was pretty much shot, won't the same thing happen if I go with a higher stall on the Camaro?
IMVHO - As long as your tuner knows what they're doing, you shouldn't notice much in that way. Getting the lock-up timing is what I think is going to be critical. While a different animal - my '02 with the stock 3.23s was perfect, to me. I had a 3800-4000 stall and my lock-ups were perfect. The freeway was just fine. Around town, I stayed in "D" and shifted to "OD" on the freeway. It took the deletion of a few tranny codes before I got things perfect around town, but I LOVED it. That tranny needed a converter though...

You can probably be more conservative because of the gearing in your tranny. Since you've already had one, you already have an idea what you like. I'm just saying if you want to slay stick-cars, get as big a stall as you can stand I wasn't too far from moving into a 4400, but ended up getting rid of the car :(
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Old 11-09-2012, 01:01 PM   #24
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Thank you for the info radz!
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Old 11-09-2012, 01:56 PM   #25
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FTI 3200-3600 converter and some LT headers with a good tune and drag radials could make your car run low 12's.
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