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Old 01-17-2008, 11:15 AM   #1
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Post Mustangs being "chick" cars, will the Camaro?

I know I'm gonna get a lot of mustang guys firing on me but give me a second to explain.

About 2 weeks ago I was having lunch with some co-workers that brought up my black Concept Camaro model at my office. The discussion came about why I didn't like the new Mustangs (that's a whole different story) and one of the guys said on top of my reasons, it's a "chick" car. I laughed and the other guys were like "what?". He said all he's seen in the new Mustangs are girls (we live in the NW burbs of Chicago btw).

From that day on, everytime we've gone out for lunch, we look for mustangs and for fun I've been tracking (about 2 weeks), 19 girls to 2 guys were in the mustangs. Making sure not to pick the same mustangs from the day before (for the most part we tried). Ever since he said that, everytime I see a new mustang I drive up to it to see if it's another girl. 90% of the time, it is!

Well could this be the fact that the base mustangs are so affordable? If the base Camaro will be price competing with the mustangs, will the Camaro become a "chick" car like the mustang is?

Just thought to bring up something different. Don't get me wrong, I love seeing hot chicks in muscle cars too but I thought it funny that the mustang is called a chick car in my area. I just found out this morning that one of the girls in my department just bought a mustang. That reminded me to post this general surveying. I'm gonna go ask her why she bought it.

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Old 01-17-2008, 11:21 AM   #2
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I think the Mustangs, in general, were definately made more
"friendly" than the last generation F-bodies. I think the F-bodies are definately for enthusiasts, I mean, there is a HUGE hump in the floor under the passenger, visibility isn't that great, long and low nose, hard to see out of the distorted windshield, blah blah blah. I think the Mustang has, for a long time, just been more driver-friendly than the Camaro.

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Old 01-17-2008, 11:29 AM   #3
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I've noticed that very same thing! The better majority of Mustang drivers I see are women! about 65% of them, I'd say. I think another reason besides cost (which probably isn't biased towards any gender) is that the Mustang is also...'cute'.
I said it. I think the V6's appeal more to the average female crowd. Not our upstanding female members here, who've clearly seen the light. They're very weak (relatively - the V6's), and like I said, they're 'cute'. The Camaro is definitely NOT cute. it's attractive, yes. It's menacing, yes. it's powerful-looking, yes.

Will the afore mentioned females buy the V6 versions of Camaro? Undoubtedly, yes. No matter how you cut it, we WANT them to buy the V6's. It's the liferaft that the Camaro would need if all that sold were hi-po V6's and V8's. But it won't become a chick car...which is good.
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Old 01-17-2008, 11:29 AM   #4
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The only reason the newer Mustangs are "chick" cars is because it's daddy's money... Although, I don't see a problem with women driving sport/muscle cars. I knew a girl back in high school who drove a black 1981 Trans Am, nicer then any of the cars the boys brought in. Heck, I see more women driving Vettes then men.
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This is pretty common with any attractive 2 door. The smaller engine trim along with an automatic will be female driven and the higher HP manual will be male driven. I don't think the Mustang as a "chick" car as I do a VW Eos, Toyota Celica or similar.

The problem I'll have around my way is that in the past camaro has been synonymous with the mullet/big air crowd. So I’ll be dealing with a lot of rednecks as opposed to just performance car enthusiasts. Hopefully this will change with the new design since I think it will have a broader appeal.
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Old 01-17-2008, 01:40 PM   #6
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I have to say that sadly the only woman around here I've ever seen driving a muscle car is a grossly overweight woman in her 40s driving a red 3rd gen Camaro. Other then that all I've seen are guys driving all muscle cars that I see around here (which are few and far between as it is).
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Old 01-17-2008, 05:02 PM   #7
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From a woman's point of view, I have to say that a majority of women probably only buy a Mustang, as opposed to other cars because it's what is 'popular' for the time. A girl sees a Mustang that she likes or, as Dragon put it, is "cute" and she's like "OOHHH I want THAT one!"

Would I go over to the "Dark Side" and purchase a Mustang? HELL NO... Why? Because I find nothing remotely "cute" about it. I admit that the 03 and 04 Mustangs were pretty good looking cars... But I hate this new body style. The rear is too "blocky" looking for my tastes and the tail lights are way too big. The front is too plain looking and there's nothing going on to interest me. The V6's front end is boring and the V8's front end has those two HUGE "fog lights" in the middle of the grille. Heck, the "pony package" looks better with the smaller lights in the grille, but what was the point of having "fog lights" if they are going to be on the same level as headlights??

I was, am, and always will be a Camaro girl. Camaro just makes me think of raw muscle! Corvettes are quick and aggressive, but there is just something about the Camaro that makes it different.

Oh, and I may have a V6 now... but trust me. This girl IS getting a Z28!!!
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I definately see the Mustang as being more female friendly, particularly the convertibles. The Mustang seems to be a bit more tame but still looks like it should be fast. Camaro's have tended to be more serios in appearance and performance. Oh, there should be a poll for this topic.

While on the topic of women and mustangs, a couple years ago when I filling up the car a woman pulls up in her brand new mustang, a red convertible to be precise. She couldn't figure out how to take off the gas cap! There was absolutely no trick to it, its a normal gas cap, I knew this because she asked me to open it up for her. And in case any of you are wondering, I surely hope that she wasn't trying to 'get my attention' since she was about twice as old as me. I know this woman doesn't represent all female Mustang owners, but she sure reminded me of the stereotype. If she was 17 she would have fit the bill perfectly
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The majority of the Mustangs I see are female driven. Not that I don't see guys driving them as well.

I, personally, know of one girl that drives a yellow V6 'vert (as metioned before, in my area yellow is a girls color), one guy drives a black GT and one girl drives a red GT.

I know another girl that used to have a white 2000 V6 Mustang.

And I agree with acscamarochick (which seems to be becoming a trend lol) that the body style before the '05's was the best looking.
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:31 PM   #10
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Mustangs back in 94 is when it seemed to become a girls car. I remember it was just after the game Outrun came onto the arcade scene. People saw corvette verts with a long blodne ponytail hanging out the back. High school girls started driving their daddy's vette if they could. Daddy's who didn't trust their daughters or wanted to give their daughters their own car went out convertible shopping. What's a cheap car that looks fast and has a convertible top? Not civics, not mr2's, not rx-7's. Miatas and mustangs are the two cars that come to mind. Since snobby daddy is cheap daddy or just doesn't trust his daughter, he buys her the 6 cyl. She gets a popular car that looks like her boyfriend's GT, with a convertible top, and daddy's vette is safe again.

I see the same thing with camaro 6 cyl, but not as often. Was there even a vert 4th gen? I don't think it would look as appealing as the 94-99 mustang if there was.

The mustang has stayed that way since around that time. I think girls will still want the mustang more than the camaro, but there will be a few camarochicks (not ours) who will buy the 6 convertible if offered.
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:38 PM   #11
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I own a Mustang, but I will agree that I see more girls driving the new Mustang (05-present) than guys. I think it's a car that women find attractive, just like Jetta's and many other VW's. I own an 04 Stang, and I see more guys driving this model than women.

Personally, I think the new Mustang looks hideous, and even after four years it still hasn't grown on me. And when our new Camaro is unleashed, I'll probably be a Camaro owner for life...or until I get so old that a sports car isn't comfortable to drive. But, that's not gonna be an issue for a looong time.

Regarding the mullet comment: I have heard that many times, but I think it was probably third gens that got that reputation, right?

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Girls usually go for Mustangs, it has that "girly" attraction to it, although, there are a severe lack of options at the current time, (ergo the mustang being the only choice ) i would MUCH rather see a girl driving a Camaro than a Mustang
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Usually if I see a woman driving a Mustang it's a V6. If it's a GT it's usually a guy.
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Sadly, I think there will be just as many women driving the new Camaro as guys....

It's just the way it happens.

These days, women are so into 'equal rights' that in their mind, they purposely will go out and buy a manly car, just to prove they CAN.

Seriously...not trying to hate on women....I LOVE women.

I just don't get it when a woman has to buy a high hp sportscar just to prove something. Especially when these are the type of women that don't even know how to change their own tires or change their own oil.
As far as women that can work on their own cars.....I say go for it.

I see, time after time, a woman wrapping a Vette or a 350Z around a tree because she couldnt handle a RWD car with more than 300hp.

And I'm afraid that the same thing will happen to the new Camaro.

Just like it did the Vette, the 350Z, the Cobra...and just the other day, I saw a chick in a Supra!


Talk about the most non-practical car for a female!

Oh well......women will always want what men have.

That's just my 2 cents.
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I just don't get it when a woman has to buy a high hp sportscar just to prove something.

I see, time after time, a woman wrapping a Vette or a 350Z around a tree because she couldnt handle a RWD car with more than 300hp.
Why are you buying a high hp sportscar? Would the Camaro still appeal to you without it's power? Or without it's name for power?

A buddy of mine recently wrapped his Z06 - lost it on a sharp turn because he didn't see the dirt on the ground. He did all the labor on that car, but that didn't change the fact that he didn't respect the power it had.

My cousin drives a 1992 5.0 Mustang that she bought and her boyfriend built. Dyno'd out around 390 so I figure 370-380 at the wheels? She drives it all over and not even a scratch on it.

If a chick wants to drive a Camaro thats cool by me, but as with anyone who lacks respect for the power their car puts out - I pity them.
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Barbie's car

I have been told repeatedly I have Barbie's car. But that's just because it is yellow. I don't mind. I don't think Barbie's car has flowmasters.
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Sadly, I think there will be just as many women driving the new Camaro as guys....

It's just the way it happens.

These days, women are so into 'equal rights' that in their mind, they purposely will go out and buy a manly car, just to prove they CAN.

Seriously...not trying to hate on women....I LOVE women.

I just don't get it when a woman has to buy a high hp sportscar just to prove something. Especially when these are the type of women that don't even know how to change their own tires or change their own oil.
As far as women that can work on their own cars.....I say go for it.

I see, time after time, a woman wrapping a Vette or a 350Z around a tree because she couldnt handle a RWD car with more than 300hp.

And I'm afraid that the same thing will happen to the new Camaro.

Just like it did the Vette, the 350Z, the Cobra...and just the other day, I saw a chick in a Supra!


Talk about the most non-practical car for a female!

Oh well......women will always want what men have.

That's just my 2 cents.
If we were to actually look at the statistics I think we would find that the percentage is higher for male drivers who have wrapped their High HP cars around trees than the percentage of female drivers in the same cars.

Male drivers may understand the power of their cars better (generally), but our desire to push it to the limit often over rides our logic as to when it is appropriate to do so.

Insurance companies know it, that's why insurance is cheaper if you're a female.
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Shoot....I've seen a guy completely lose it not knowing what was coming up in front of him (uh...dead end???). He was hauling butt down a new two lane road. As you get to the end of the road, you don't know it because it's around a corner. Well...he slammed on the brakes, hit the burm on the other side of the street (at an angle since he was trying to save it), and LAUNCHED his 93 Mustang GT in the air. It was literally STUCK about 4 to 5 feet off the ground sideways between two trees. I WISH I had a picture of that. But, it was sad. You guys know I love those old fox bodies.

Another wreck...this time w/a girl driving her sisters boyfriends 90-93 Mustang...skipping class way back in HS and was trying to show off for her friends...She tried dropping the clutch and doing a 180. Well, she got to about 175ish or so...hehe....and launched the Mustang into a 6 foot deep concrete ditch. The stang landed in such a way that the bumper (the ditch was in the shape of a "V" if you can imagine) was bent upwards on both sides. It actually looked as though the front end of the Stang was smiling.

Folks...the average # of wrecks male/female are probably about the same. Sure, you might have less female drivers of the Camaro. But, that doesn't mean that you are going to have more accidents w/ women in the Camaro/Mustang. I know a few female drivers that'll blow your doors off and would probably drive better than a lot of other male drivers. It doesn't matter male/female. It matters about the person who's behind the wheel.
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I don't think this in entierly true with the new mustangs, I see just as many chicks driving V6 Mustangs as I see guys driving the V6. A majority of V8 owners are guys.

My wife can not stand driving my car, she says the hood is too long and to high, she can't see over it when going over hills. My oldest daughter hates it because it's not a Ricer (shes into Hip Hop and loves Vin Diesel) but she thinks the 99-04 Mustangs are cute not the 05+. My youger daughter says my car is too loud and wants a hybrid.. (shes my Lefty)

My Wife wants a Vette, Because I have always said. the only two people that drive a vettes are Middle Aged old guys and Hot chicks, My wife wants to be a Hot Chick
She Drives a Chrysler 300 now so it would be a bit of a change.
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In LA, I see girls in V6 mustangs, but for GTs Its very very rare. So I do not think its really a "girls car" like the mini is.
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In LA, I see girls in V6 mustangs, but for GTs Its very very rare. So I do not think its really a "girls car" like the mini is.
We have a lot of GT's here in Virginia, but I think the V6 out numbers the GT's 2 to 1.

The V6 Mustang is like the Berlinetta Camaro, this is a Chick Car.
so to blanket say the mustang is a chick car is stupid.

I see more girls driving Camaros than Mustangs around here, and in florida
god the Camaro Vert was a chick favorite.

This is a Funny term. "Camaro Chick"
Scuzzi white-trash blond often found crusing around in said car. Easily Identifiable given the number of tatoos and cigarette dangling from mouth.

We went out looking for some hot girls but the bar was full of camaro chicks

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i think the mustangs are chick cars, actually a study i saw about 3 years ago had the mustang on the top 5 chick cars. right along side the vw bug,jetta and mini cooper.
the camaro will be loved by everyone but definately looks like a dudes car. very aggressive looking.
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The V6 Mustang is like the Berlinetta Camaro, this is a Chick Car.
so to blanket say the mustang is a chick car is stupid.
I''l let my co-worker know that you are stating he's stupid for calling the mustang a chick car. No worries, he's not a member here. Just this morning I saw an older woman, gotta guess in her 60's in a Mustang V6. I pulled out my cell to take her photo as proof but I noticed a cop behind me and the light turning green.

I asked my female co-worker why she bought hers... her exact words "it's cute, don't you think?" I replied, "no way, you'd never find me in a mustang, it's obviously a chick car." She gave me a friendly stare and we both laughed. She is cute.
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