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Old 06-06-2009, 08:49 PM   #1
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Dear Owners: Talk Me In/Out of a 2010 Camaro

I'm 21, in college, and I just went down to the dealership today to test drive the 2010 Camaro. Admittedly, it was a V6 automatic, but it was enough for this little Asian guy to fall in love. I especially loved the "wholeness" of the package. It was luxurious, but yet fun to drive. Roll down the windows and I get all the noise and fun with it, but roll it back up, and the car is totally quiet.

Anywho, I've gotten all the numbers. Spoken to the dealership, etc., and can place an order with a downpayment of $500. I've got a solid quote right here for a 1SS Camaro RS 6-Speed MT in Silver, MSRP $31,535. With tax, registration fees, ARP of 5.9%, etc., I end up at about $35,000.

If I place my order now, I'll take delivery in September or so. I plan to have a final decision on the car by Wednesday.

I'm not familiar with the LS3 engine at all (my first and current car is a 2005 Mazda RX8, so I come from a rotary background).

I'm a performance enthusiast with about 2 years track driving experience, so I'm not too worried that I'll get killed in a 425HP fireball. However, if and when I get a Camaro, I won't be tracking the car for a few years at least (perhaps an autocross or two, that's about it).

So guys and gals, talk me in/out of it. Advantages, disadvantages, teething problems you've found, shit to look out for etc.

If anyone here has pics of the fabric seats in a 1SS, I'd be very grateful. I like the fabric in my RX-8 right now, but I'm not sure how Chevy fabric is.
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Old 06-06-2009, 09:12 PM   #2
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Welcome! Poke around the posts here and you should find about all the information you need. I'd especially check out the Ordering/Tracking/Dealer Discussion forum! http://www.camaro5.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=10
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Old 06-06-2009, 09:23 PM   #3
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I saw a black interior cloth the just two hours ago in a LT, it looks great. Thats what I ordered. I would say it comes down to your financial situation. Dont know how you can afford it in the middle of college. I can tell you another 5000 grand will cost you 100 or so dollars more a month
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Old 06-06-2009, 09:32 PM   #4
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Take a look at all the magazine articles about the Camaro (except Car and Driver) they all say the same thing. Get a Camaro. For the money it's the best American performance car out there.
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Old 06-06-2009, 09:39 PM   #5
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Well if the V6 was enough for you, I would go with the 1LT or 2LT. That would cut down on your payments and insurance. Anyway, I would not really recommend getting one yet unless you have a job lined up or have rich parents. But who am I too advise as I'm car shopping and unemployed, don't have any money right now and dealers still want to give me a loan! Granted I'm a little older, my credit is excellent and I have unemployment checks coming in to get me by. I'm just waiting for a really "good" deal to come along or I get the job offer in my interview next week and then I might jump on something. Although still not sure if it will be the 1LT, gencoupe 3.8, 2009 mustang gt or the wrx as they all have their pluses and minuses...
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Old 06-06-2009, 09:42 PM   #6
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I saw a black interior cloth the just two hours ago in a LT, it looks great. Thats what I ordered. I would say it comes down to your financial situation. Dont know how you can afford it in the middle of college. I can tell you another 5000 grand will cost you 100 or so dollars more a month
I have an RX-8 to trade in, and with a 60 month term, I can get away with a 1SS RS for 350/mo or so.

How I can afford it is a secret.

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Well if the V6 was enough for you, I would go with the 1LT or 2LT. That would cut down on your payments and insurance. Anyway, I would not really recommend getting one yet unless you have a job lined up or have rich parents. But who am I too advise as I'm car shopping and unemployed, don't have any money right now and dealers still want to give me a loan! Granted I'm a little older, my credit is excellent and I have unemployment checks coming in to get me by. I'm just waiting for a really "good" deal to come along or I get the job offer in my interview next week and then I might jump on something. Although still not sure if it will be the 1LT, gencoupe 3.8, 2009 mustang gt or the wrx as they all have their pluses and minuses...
Unfortunately, given the Camaro's curb weight, the V6 would really be not much of an upgrade from the RX8 performance wise. My butt dyno told me that its just as slow as the RX8. Of course, we all know how accurate butt dynos are, but if I'm going to blow money on a car, it had better be special. 425HP is plenty special.
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Old 06-06-2009, 09:47 PM   #7
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I have an RX-8 to trade in, and with a 60 month term, I can get away with a 1SS RS for 350/mo or so.

How I can afford it is a secret.



Unfortunately, given the Camaro's curb weight, the V6 would really be not much of an upgrade from the RX8 performance wise. My butt dyno told me that its just as slow as the RX8. Of course, we all know how accurate butt dynos are, but if I'm going to blow money on a car, it had better be special. 425HP is plenty special.
stock for stock the v6 will be quicker in a straight line, but not in the curves.


350/month isnt a huge payment at all, why would affording it be a secret?
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Old 06-06-2009, 09:48 PM   #8
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I'm 21, in college, and I just went down to the dealership today to test drive the 2010 Camaro. Admittedly, it was a V6 automatic, but it was enough for this little Asian guy to fall in love. I especially loved the "wholeness" of the package. It was luxurious, but yet fun to drive. Roll down the windows and I get all the noise and fun with it, but roll it back up, and the car is totally quiet.

Anywho, I've gotten all the numbers. Spoken to the dealership, etc., and can place an order with a downpayment of $500. I've got a solid quote right here for a 1SS Camaro RS 6-Speed MT in Silver, MSRP $31,535. With tax, registration fees, ARP of 5.9%, etc., I end up at about $35,000.

If I place my order now, I'll take delivery in September or so. I plan to have a final decision on the car by Wednesday.

I'm not familiar with the LS3 engine at all (my first and current car is a 2005 Mazda RX8, so I come from a rotary background).

I'm a performance enthusiast with about 2 years track driving experience, so I'm not too worried that I'll get killed in a 425HP fireball. However, if and when I get a Camaro, I won't be tracking the car for a few years at least (perhaps an autocross or two, that's about it).

So guys and gals, talk me in/out of it. Advantages, disadvantages, teething problems you've found, shit to look out for etc.

If anyone here has pics of the fabric seats in a 1SS, I'd be very grateful. I like the fabric in my RX-8 right now, but I'm not sure how Chevy fabric is.
31,500 dosen't add up to 35,000 after taxes.sounds about $1500 too high.
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Old 06-06-2009, 09:53 PM   #9
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31,500 dosen't add up to 35,000 after taxes.sounds about $1500 too high.
It includes a 5.9% financing APR, registration fees with the local BMV, and a $92 dealership fee.
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Old 06-06-2009, 09:56 PM   #10
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stock for stock the v6 will be quicker in a straight line, but not in the curves.


350/month isnt a huge payment at all, why would affording it be a secret?
Yes, the V6 will be quicker. But like I said, butt dynos are as accurate as butt dynos are. The acceleration just didn't feel special at all. EDIT: I'm looking for a car that'll justify me screaming "POOOOOWWEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" as I charge down the road at full throttle.

I minimize online talk about my personal finances.
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Old 06-06-2009, 10:07 PM   #11
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Dude sorry to tell you but you have been bitten by the camaro bug and so far there is no known cure for this the only way to help control the effects of this is to buy a camaro drive the hell out of the 426 hp animal i hear that the doses of adreneline your body creates while driving is the best and maybe the only anticdote not sure as mine isnt here yet but im already expierencing loss of sleep and short attention span and cold sweats but good luck :}
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Old 06-06-2009, 10:18 PM   #12
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I ordered mine 10/13/2008, without ever having sat in one. I got mine 6/3/2009, almost nine months later and 42 days after being built.

Saying that the wait was worth it does not do the car justice. The wait was long... really, really long... the wait completely disappeared the first time I cranked the ignition. It has exceeded every expectation I had... and I had a long time to build up my expectations.

The car is a rock star, no matter where I go... the whole drive is an experience in head turns, camera phones and thumb's up. Once I arrive, it's like being on the red carpet.

Unreal. Surreal. Awesome. Get a Camaro, you will not regret it.
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Old 06-06-2009, 11:46 PM   #13
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I ordered mine 10/13/2008, without ever having sat in one. I got mine 6/3/2009, almost nine months later and 42 days after being built.

Saying that the wait was worth it does not do the car justice. The wait was long... really, really long... the wait completely disappeared the first time I cranked the ignition. It has exceeded every expectation I had... and I had a long time to build up my expectations.

The car is a rock star, no matter where I go... the whole drive is an experience in head turns, camera phones and thumb's up. Once I arrive, it's like being on the red carpet.

Unreal. Surreal. Awesome. Get a Camaro, you will not regret it.
I am happy to see you like your car, I am a small town movie star, This morning i had to stop to get gas as i pull in and get out of the car 4 guys came at me from all sides asking ? about the car, This is new to me and i love it for now.
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Old 06-07-2009, 01:45 AM   #14
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31,500 dosen't add up to 35,000 after taxes.sounds about $1500 too high.
I agree. It definitely sounds a bit on the high side of things.

MSRP on the one I ordered yesterday is $31,205

Taxes: ~$1,000
DMV: ~$390
Destination: $795

Which comes out to: $33,390

Obviously taxes and DMV fee are variable and the "Dealership Fee". Still seems to be a mysterious ~$1,500 lurking around!
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