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Old 01-19-2008, 09:19 PM   #1
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Couple Of Random Questions * Paddle shifters

i recently set out to buy a manual car, i was helped here finding the correct web-sites to go to, but then when i had found the car i liked like a ton of bricks it hit me...isnt the camaro getting those "pull the trigger" type shifters? until i learn if this is true or not i'll put it off...

2. another's about my car..i went to get a tune up recently and asking the mechanic there i asked "hey man, my car's reaching 100,000 miles, when do you think i should change my transmission oil?"
he replies: seriously man i think the time's passed, you should wait until you have real trouble with it, and just wait til it dies...

now i ask..is this true? must i wait until my trans dies and get another? will nothing help me? i dont really wanna drag away from my camaro funds =/
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Old 01-19-2008, 09:45 PM   #2
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1. I've heard nothing regarding "paddle shifters" (if that's what you're referring to?) for the new Camaro.

2. Get a 2nd opinion regarding your transmission. Personally, I'd change the fluid, assuming you like your car and want to keep it in good working order. I don't know anything about the mechanic whom you visited, but I'm disappointed in his advice.
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Old 01-19-2008, 10:51 PM   #3
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i recently set out to buy a manual car, i was helped here finding the correct web-sites to go to, but then when i had found the car i liked like a ton of bricks it hit me...isnt the camaro getting those "pull the trigger" type shifters? until i learn if this is true or not i'll put it off...

2. another's about my car..i went to get a tune up recently and asking the mechanic there i asked "hey man, my car's reaching 100,000 miles, when do you think i should change my transmission oil?"
he replies: seriously man i think the time's passed, you should wait until you have real trouble with it, and just wait til it dies...

now i ask..is this true? must i wait until my trans dies and get another? will nothing help me? i dont really wanna drag away from my camaro funds =/
On the trans the question is, how long are you going to keep this car? I had a beater that if i had changed the fluid in it, it would have leaked like a sieve. So it got ran into the ground (ford escort, yes it was a BEATER, but it lasted)

If your going to keep the car, yes get it changed if the fluid shows it needs it and perform the right maintenance.
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Old 01-19-2008, 11:03 PM   #4
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If the Camaro is getting paddle shifters, it won't be on the manual transmission. It will be on the automatic. That's the way it is on the corvette.
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Old 01-19-2008, 11:23 PM   #5
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If the Camaro is getting paddle shifters, it won't be on the manual transmission. It will be on the automatic. That's the way it is on the corvette.
+1. Chances are it will get them....but, it's a paddle-shifted Automatic. You'll still have the choice of your good-'ole Manual. No worries, there.

And with the Mechanics, advise...mmmm, do you have a drivers manual? B/c, it'll tell you in there when the fluid should have been changed. If not, at 100,000 miles (and no change to date) Go for it. It can't hurt the car. Something about that advise just doesn't sit right with me......
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Old 01-19-2008, 11:26 PM   #6
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Most new GM cars are offered with automatics with some sort of manual shifting mode. Saturn and Chevy gets steering-wheel mounted paddle shifters.

As far as the transmission fluid, if you start having problems with leaks, slippage, or sticking, try some trans-x. It works really well on high mileage cars. Also, many cars now have "lifetime" transmission fluid that shouldn't need to be changed unless something goes bad. Maybe your car doesn't have that.
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Old 01-20-2008, 01:12 PM   #7
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its a 01 impala, i have the drivers manual and to me its defenetely a keeper, i love the hell out of that car, and theres 2 mechanics i go to, the one that gave me that advice i rarely go to, i go to a friends shop..i've known him scince high school and he tells me otherwise, as for the transmission itself? the car runs smooth, i have no leaks or complains right now, i just know it had to be made weather i've missed its time or its time is now or near future, my question really was like, i've heard many cases when they go through this (transmission oil change) more than a handful of people say they paid for the service but end up having to get a new transmission, so i wanted to avoid one or the other ya know, but i'll see what my manual tells me - thx guys


as for the camaro if the automatic comes with those paddle shifter things, i'll defenetely be getting that..because of the concern of my impala right now i'll lay off learning full manual..but then again,tis income tax season
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Old 01-20-2008, 01:48 PM   #8
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On the tranny fluid...I have heard that unless you have changed it early on 30,000 to 40,000 you are better off not to change it later. Something to do with the new fluid breaking down the build up from the old fluid and clogging the various channels and fluid passages in the tranny. No personal experience however.
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Old 01-20-2008, 05:04 PM   #9
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Above is exactly what ive heard from my auto maintanance teacher about auto transmissioins.
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Old 01-20-2008, 05:59 PM   #10
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i'm off tomorrow from work, i checked it out online as well and came along this, read the comments people posted, i'm second owner to the car, i got it with 80k miles on it and i just want to know what it is i should do. more than likely i'm thinking i will change the fluid and filter and pretty much follow what that web-site says...oh yea heres the link to it

http://www.popularmechanics.com/how_...21.html?page=1

check it out,tell me what you think
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Old 01-20-2008, 07:50 PM   #11
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Check this out. This is a podcast from the GM Fyi blogs. Unless I am much mistaken, they say something about tranny-fluid changes, that is VERY similar to your issue.
http://fyi.gmblogs.com/podcasts/Podc...5%20re-cut.mp3
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Old 01-20-2008, 09:57 PM   #12
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PADDLE SHIFTS FTW!!!!, lol does the paddle shifts still rob the gas milage like the Autos vs manuals, I know manuals get better then autos
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Old 01-21-2008, 12:52 AM   #13
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PADDLE SHIFTS FTW!!!!, lol does the paddle shifts still rob the gas milage like the Autos vs manuals, I know manuals get better then autos
Although GM's new autos aren't nearly as bad as most other Automatics, yes, it still robs a little more Hp than a stick. Paddle shifted or not, and auto's an auto.

take for instance the '08 Vette. 0-60 times differ by only .1 seconds between the two trannys.
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Old 01-21-2008, 01:04 AM   #14
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i recently set out to buy a manual car, i was helped here finding the correct web-sites to go to, but then when i had found the car i liked like a ton of bricks it hit me...isnt the camaro getting those "pull the trigger" type shifters? until i learn if this is true or not i'll put it off...

2. another's about my car..i went to get a tune up recently and asking the mechanic there i asked "hey man, my car's reaching 100,000 miles, when do you think i should change my transmission oil?"
he replies: seriously man i think the time's passed, you should wait until you have real trouble with it, and just wait til it dies...

now i ask..is this true? must i wait until my trans dies and get another? will nothing help me? i dont really wanna drag away from my camaro funds =/

i havent finished reading the responses on the thread, but i will tell you now, with the 4l60e (and most autos) if you haven't changed the fluid before 40k, ur better off waiting till something breaks. reason bein is that when you change it, you are draining out some of the gunk that is (poss) holding things together. now while that might sound bad, its actually good. ive seen/read too many times where someones tranny was doin just fine and they changed fluid and a week later, their tranny went out. ur best bet is to wait till something goes out, then rebuild ur tranny. you can however change ur filter and what not and still be ok. also you can add some tran-x or other additives to increase the longevity of your tranny. hope this helps.


and as for paddle shifters... i dont see them being standard equipment on the new camaro, there might be an upgrade package that you can get them, but i wouldnt count on them as a production item. tho for all you 4l60e guys and other auto drivers... check out www.retrotekspeed.com they make a conversion kit for our cars for paddle shifters
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Old 01-22-2008, 04:59 PM   #15
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again with the same...i was told by a reliable source that in order to change the oil one must "take off the pan" i dont know much about mechanics but this source says..."how exactly will i change the filter without the oil?"

now my question is...so i'm still like in red alert right? that my car's tranny might give out? i'm so confused.
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Old 01-24-2008, 09:23 PM   #16
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first off, do me a quick favor and quit calling it tranny oil. just call it tranny fluid. cus every time you call it oil. i start thinking of...well, oil. lol

here.. try this
http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/inde...article&id=392

its a truck forum, but you the procedure is about the same as you should have a 4l60e tranny same as the trucks, camaros, fbods, and impallas and caprice's.
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I'm assuming your have a automatic, since you wanted to buy a manual to learn for the Camaro, and Automatics are A LOT heavier than manual transmission so changing the fluid is not as easy and i'm not positive about autos but i think you have to refill from the top of the tranny (which means either pull out most of the lower dash area and try to pour in from the top, or, just pull it out), i'd suggest you wait a while because you would want it cleaned (unless your fluid is clean without chunks of stuff in it), you would want to wait until you get manual because its not a quick job to clean an Auto. or take it out. so unless you have any leaks or issues you might want to wait a little while
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Paddle shifters would be cool, but I think I' ll still opt for the six-speed.

As far as the ATF, I wouldn' t recommend changing it. I know it doesn' t make sense but your mechanic was right. Changing the ATF now will more than likely lead to leaks. You see, ATF is a very good cleaner when it is new. Because you have driven over 100,000 miles on your current ATF the cleaning properties have diminshed allowing small dirt particles to collect on various o-rings and seals in you transmission. Those same o-rings and seals have also deteroriated, again due to the long period of time the ATF has been in your transmission. New ATF will "clean" all of the particles that have collected in those o-rings and seals in your transmission and because the condtion of the seals and o-rings has been compromised they will start to leak. It may even cause poor shift quality and will more than likley accelerate transmission failure. You' re better off with the old ATF. Unless it came with synthetic ATF. If that is the case you should change it ASAP.
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I'm assuming your have a automatic, since you wanted to buy a manual to learn for the Camaro, and Automatics are A LOT heavier than manual transmission so changing the fluid is not as easy and i'm not positive about autos but i think you have to refill from the top of the tranny (which means either pull out most of the lower dash area and try to pour in from the top, or, just pull it out), i'd suggest you wait a while because you would want it cleaned (unless your fluid is clean without chunks of stuff in it), you would want to wait until you get manual because its not a quick job to clean an Auto. or take it out. so unless you have any leaks or issues you might want to wait a little while
you dont have to pull the tranny to fill it. there you can fill it thru the tranny dipstick tube on top of the motor. something manuals dont have. lol
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you dont have to pull the tranny to fill it. there you can fill it thru the tranny dipstick tube on top of the motor. something manuals dont have. lol
i've only worked on manual transmissions so i wasn't sure thats why i said "i'm not positive"
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i've only worked on manual transmissions so i wasn't sure thats why i said "i'm not positive"


yeah, its cool, im not flaming you or anything. i had a buddy of mine call me up a few months back cus one of his other friends had just gotten a 96 M6 Z28. and couldnt find the tranny dipstick tube. i had to explain the whole concept between a manual and auto fluid accessibility. the guy had only driven civics before that and nearly wrecked the car cus he had never had that much power. lol
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paddle shifters

hey im new to this site and this is my first post. So anyways the c6 corvette is available with paddle shifters (not the Z06). Any idea whether or not this will be an available option on the Camaro?



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hey im new to this site and this is my first post. So anyways the c6 corvette is available with paddle shifters (not the Z06). Any idea whether or not this will be an available option on the Camaro?



I copied your post moving it to two seperate threads in hopes you might be able to find more info on your question.
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