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Old 12-09-2012, 02:06 PM   #26
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Does anyone know what gears the GM kit will have?
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Old 12-09-2012, 04:24 PM   #27
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Here's what I don't get. You can already purchase the ZL1 parts here online (ie, drivetrain). What is the difficult part of swapping the two out?
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Old 12-09-2012, 04:55 PM   #28
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Its no more difficult than any other 9". Its just that people are scared to piece something together from what I've seen. They'd rather pay double than do their homework like with the CTS-V brake kits.
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:26 PM   #29
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I'm asking because the ZL1 seems like a more affordable and street friendly alternative to a 9" and people are making seem like it a whole project to install.
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:26 PM   #30
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I can't say its fun doing this kind of thing on jack stands but its not difficult. Just somewhat back breaking and time consuming. Depends on what you define as a "whole project" and your skill level.
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:02 PM   #31
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These gen5 camaros have to be some of the easiest cars I have worked on. Doing a rear swap as long as you have the right tools should about 2 - 3 hours to R&R everything using jack stands while taking your time doing that project. I can't wait to see the pricing on the ZL1 differential swap kit.
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:22 PM   #32
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"whole project", meaning I've been reading rumors that the Zl1 rear diff won't fir into the cradle of the SS. Is that a true statement or is just a simple swap out?
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"whole project", meaning I've been reading rumors that the Zl1 rear diff won't fir into the cradle of the SS. Is that a true statement or is just a simple swap out?
You actually believe something you found on the internet There is a lot of stuff that floats around and it simply isn't true. GM is seling the ZL1 upgrade as a BOLT in Kit.
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:41 PM   #34
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Any guesses on the price? I'll throw out a "guesstimate" of around $2700. I just don't like the 2-piece driveshaft, I rather sport a 1-piece aluminum or carbon shaft.

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I'd guess more. The ZL1 diff by itself has a retail list price of about $2500, D/S about $700, axles about $600 ea, nuts/bolts about $100.... That ZL1 stuff is pricey, compared to SS driveline parts. $4K ish would be my retail guess, hopefully though a lot less, and discounted by some dealers. Then you have tuning for the speedo error...
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:43 PM   #35
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You actually believe something you found on the internet There is a lot of stuff that floats around and it simply isn't true. GM is seling the ZL1 upgrade as a BOLT in Kit.
Hey, remember the commercial. You can't put anything on the internet that isn't true.
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:45 PM   #36
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I'd guess more. The ZL1 diff by itself has a retail list price of about $2500, D/S about $700, axles about $600 ea, nuts/bolts about $100.... That ZL1 stuff is pricey, compared to SS driveline parts. $4K ish would be my retail guess, hopefully though a lot less, and discounted by some dealers. Then you have tuning for the speedo error...
One of the vendors on here sells the ZL1 diff for $1850. I used his prices and came roughly to about $3k. I'm just not pulling the trigger yet because I want to be certain that I don't need to do any modification to swap it out. Seems like I don't.
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The ZL1 cradle has the tabs for the cooling lines for the diff cooler. As far as I know thats the only difference. And it aint hard to make something work for that if people even plan on adding the cooler which it seems like most aren't.

And who pays retail?
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You can't pay retail. Takes the fun out of bargaining.
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The ZL1 cradle has the tabs for the cooling lines for the diff cooler. As far as I know thats the only difference. And it aint hard to make something work for that if people even plan on adding the cooler which it seems like most aren't.

And who pays retail?
There is alot more differences than that,Replace it with the zl1 and never look back
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You actually believe something you found on the internet There is a lot of stuff that floats around and it simply isn't true. GM is seling the ZL1 upgrade as a BOLT in Kit.
I agree 100%,i seen were someone claimed the zl1 rear would take 1000 hp....lol
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:56 AM   #45
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I agree 100%,i seen were someone claimed the zl1 rear would take 1000 hp....lol
I heard it was same size as the ctsv v2 rear?

And that rear end has taken 1200lbs of torque at 4400lbs from a local blower nitrous car.

What leads you to believe they won't take 1000hp?

Has anyone broke one yet?
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:12 PM   #46
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Just waiting on pricing for this kit now. This is the second site I've seen it advertised for sale

http://www.crateenginedepot.com/Cama...94-P50812.aspx
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Just waiting on pricing for this kit now. This is the second site I've seen it advertised for sale

http://www.crateenginedepot.com/Cama...94-P50812.aspx
I hope they release the pricing soon. Nice to put a target goal on the money I've been saving for this... Lol
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What do you think the kit is going to offer that you can't buy already as individual parts?
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Hopefully just a lower price....that's about all I'm looking for. And, of course, it would be easier to order (1) part number vs. (25) or whatever the number of parts may be.

I'm curious though....I still don't like the 2-piece driveshaft in the kit. Will one of the DSS aluminum driveshafts work in an SS (manual) with this ZL1 rear end????

the ZL1 has a little different length and the bolts for the Guibo are larger (those changing will have to change the front yoke also or drill the holes if they use the ZL1) we can make it with out any issues. we make shafts for both so we have the parts on the shelf.
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the kit didn't include hubs did it? Meaning the shafts must be different to fit through Ss hubs

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Hopefully just a lower price....that's about all I'm looking for. And, of course, it would be easier to order (1) part number vs. (25) or whatever the number of parts may be.

I'm curious though....I still don't like the 2-piece driveshaft in the kit. Will one of the DSS aluminum driveshafts work in an SS (manual) with this ZL1 rear end????
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