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Old 12-19-2012, 06:34 PM   #51
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the kit didn't include hubs did it? Meaning the shafts must be different to fit through Ss hubs
According to a couple of places I've talked to, the hubs on the SS are the same ones used on the ZL1. What's not being told is that a special flange is required to make the ZL1 driveshaft fit into the SS transmission.
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:37 PM   #52
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the kit didn't include hubs did it? Meaning the shafts must be different to fit through Ss hubs

We have a set of the axles on order so we can make a set that will go from the ZL1 inner to the Stock outer. not sure many will need them but if the axle is like the CTS-V the tube side may be an issue.
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Old 12-20-2012, 05:47 AM   #53
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I hope they release the pricing soon. Nice to put a target goal on the money I've been saving for this... Lol
I spoke with Tom from crateenginedepot.com and he is supposed to get pricing from GMPP division early 2013.
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:48 PM   #54
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We have a set of the axles on order so we can make a set that will go from the ZL1 inner to the Stock outer. not sure many will need them but if the axle is like the CTS-V the tube side may be an issue.
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:45 AM   #55
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According to a couple of places I've talked to, the hubs on the SS are the same ones used on the ZL1. What's not being told is that a special flange is required to make the ZL1 driveshaft fit into the SS transmission.

i don't think this is an issue, the span of the Giubo is the same and still uses a 16mm pin to center it. all you would have to really do is drill out the stock 3 finger mount on the trans from 12mm to 14mm for the larger bolts. the part is hard but not to the point were it cant be done.
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According to a couple of places I've talked to, the hubs on the SS are the same ones used on the ZL1. What's not being told is that a special flange is required to make the ZL1 driveshaft fit into the SS transmission.


I'm surprised, i was told the outer CV spline for the ZL was 35 and the SS is 33. can some one chime in on this ?
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:59 AM   #57
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ZL1 and 1LE share the same upgraded hubs as far as I know.
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Old 12-22-2012, 12:27 PM   #58
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i don't think this is an issue, the span of the Giubo is the same and still uses a 16mm pin to center it. all you would have to really do is drill out the stock 3 finger mount on the trans from 12mm to 14mm for the larger bolts. the part is hard but not to the point were it cant be done.
This is the same procedure we have been doing on the Corvette shafts for years to install the larger bolt guibos (10mm to 12mm) or aftermarket driveshafts (Such as the DSS one).
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Any updates on this as far as release date?
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I searched around and couldn't find anything yet. The race season is upon us now so I am hoping soon.

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I searched around and couldn't find anything yet. The race season is upon us now so I am hoping soon.

sent from my galaxy s3. that would explain the errors.
Hopefully in the near feature GM will release this. I wonder what they consider early 2013?
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Hopefully in the near feature GM will release this. I wonder what they consider early 2013?
http://www.crateenginedepot.com/Camaro-ZL1-HD-Driveline-Kit-Manual-Transmission-22959394-P50812.aspx

The guys name is Tom and he told me that it should be available early spring

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Thanks, that link was posted a few pages back too. Just can't wait to hear the price at least lol

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If you guys want to know for sure hubs, axles, and cradle are all different. Got one going in my car now. Also had tail shaft of trans machined to accept 14mm bolts. Working on cooler plumbing now to look stock. Yes is pieced together.
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If you guys want to know for sure hubs, axles, and cradle are all different. Got one going in my car now. Also had tail shaft of trans machined to accept 14mm bolts. Working on cooler plumbing now to look stock. Yes is pieced together.
According to what GM released late last year, this will be a 100% bolt in kit using same hubs. that's one reason why I am waiting for more details as far as if that stays true and what price will be.

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If you guys want to know for sure hubs, axles, and cradle are all different. Got one going in my car now. Also had tail shaft of trans machined to accept 14mm bolts. Working on cooler plumbing now to look stock. Yes is pieced together.
what's different about the cradle, it's it just the cooler lines?
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what's different about the cradle, it's it just the cooler lines?
Plumbing locations for the differential cooler, which is not needed so you can use the stock SS cradle w/o the cooler unless you plan on road racing the car all day long then a cooler would be nice to have in that case
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[QUOTE][what's different about the cradle, it's it just the cooler lines?/QUOTE] The differential is alot bigger than the stock one. If you used the stock cradle you would have to redo the three mounting points. It could be done but I didn't want anything to look "fabricated" under my car.
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Looks to be a lot of room for a bigger diff in the ss cradle. This was from when i did solid sub frame mounts.
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These photos are from the Chevrolet Performance display at PRI. The ZL1 diff is installed in a SS vehicle and sub-frame.
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My picture won't load for some reason, but you would have to cut the 3 mounting points for your diff. move them and reweld them to accomidate the larger center section. Yes there is room. Just didn't want a modified cradle in my car.
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My picture won't load for some reason, but you would have to cut the 3 mounting points for your diff. move them and reweld them to accomidate the larger center section. Yes there is room. Just didn't want a modified cradle in my car.
I think that GM may have re-tooled a few things in order to make this work as a direct bolt in? I think only the GM engineers at this point could give out the answers until the bolt in kits start shipping out

Scratch that, I looked up all the part numbers and everything is already in production with the exception of the installation instructions
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I think that GM may have re-tooled a few things in order to make this work as a direct bolt in? I think only the GM engineers at this point could give out the answers until the bolt in kits start shipping out
That would be great if they did but don't think they are going to say anything. I've already talked to driveshaft shop and gforce and they can make everything to work the stock ss hubs and trans. I'm just looking for the diff to work. I can user my brothers gm discount to buy the diff.
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http://www.chevroletperformance.com/Parts/catalog.jsp

Check out the GMPP catalog, the ZL1 differential swap is in the front most pages, I don't know exactly which page its on though. Download the 2013 catalog
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