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Old 11-26-2012, 04:20 PM   #1
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2013 v6 Camaro vs 2013 v6 Genisis coupe

So I've personally driven both and I still like the camaro more. The Genisis weighs less, but just for the overall feel and look I'm with the camaro (maybe its because I own one). The Genisis does have some nice things, but it lacks back seat room (yes more than the camaro). I'm 5'8 and I constantly hit my head in the back seat. As for sound, gotta give it to the genesis (stock). What do you guys think!?
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But I'd still take a Camaro over the Genesis...
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my wife owns a Genisis coupe 3.8 Track version i agree on the no room in the back seat
i know it feels faster than my old 3.6 LLT Camaro but for the money you cant go wrong with the camaro
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its very quick, and out handles the Camaro. But that grill on the 2013. Is just about as ugle as the Acura grills
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Nice cars but for the price that makes it worth getting over a LLT, you're close or in SS money.
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Nice cars but for the price that makes it worth getting over a LLT, you're close or in SS money.
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What happened to Hyundai's being the cheapest in their class ? They are now the most expensive.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:57 PM   #7
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What happened to Hyundai's being the cheapest in their class ? They are now the most expensive.
Seriously. The 2.0T and 3.8 are nearly the same price. Personally, I don't like the look and if you talk about the 2.0T, slow as a sloth. Such bad throttle response in that. The 3.8 is better, but I feel like had chevy made camaros lighter (if it was possible or not idk) the camaro would be much faster. I do think GM needs to kick it up a notch in the V6 though. All these other v6s are getting beefy each year.
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Seriously. The 2.0T and 3.8 are nearly the same price. Personally, I don't like the look and if you talk about the 2.0T, slow as a sloth. Such bad throttle response in that. The 3.8 is better, but I feel like had chevy made camaros lighter (if it was possible or not idk) the camaro would be much faster. I do think GM needs to kick it up a notch in the V6 though. All these other v6s are getting beefy each year.


You may want to check your facts, or lack there of.... The 2.0T is a very low 14 second car (like 14.0-14.2) stock, this isn't the underpowered 2.0T offered from 10-12, the new DI 3.8 with 25 more HP and 200 less pounds is easily quicker than the Camaro V6. As for price, i posted this in another thread, and it still rings true.

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Actually there is around a 4k difference between the SS and Genesis R-Spec V6, with the Genesis at $28,750 and the 1SS at $32,635, the 1LT Camaro is $25,760 which is probably the closest V6 to the R-spec, minus the R-Specs brembo brakes and performance suspension. honestly, the 2.0T is as quick or quicker than a V6 Camaro and it starts at $24,250 ($26,500 for the performance tuned R-spec 2.0T)
Basically the 2.0T is far away the one that is more comparable to the V6 Camaro performance wise and the 3.8 slots between the Camaro V6 and SS in both performance and price.
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You may want to check your facts, or lack there of.... The 2.0T is a very low 14 second car (like 14.0-14.2) stock, this isn't the underpowered 2.0T offered from 10-12, the new DI 3.8 with 25 more HP and 200 less pounds is easily quicker than the Camaro V6. As for price, i posted this in another thread, and it still rings true.



Basically the 2.0T is far away the one that is more comparable to the V6 Camaro performance wise and the 3.8 slots between the Camaro V6 and SS in both performance and price.
Personally I've driven both at the 2.0T felt gutless. You pushed the peddle down and the throttle response was terrible. The 3.8 was better, but 2.0T just seemed like it would be pointless to get seeing as the price difference isn't that much, the mpg difference isn't that much, and you get a faster and more responsive car in the v6.
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Personally I've driven both at the 2.0T felt gutless. You pushed the peddle down and the throttle response was terrible. The 3.8 was better, but 2.0T just seemed like it would be pointless to get seeing as the price difference isn't that much, the mpg difference isn't that much, and you get a faster and more responsive car in the v6.
True, the 2013 2.0T has extreme turbo lag, while the 3.8 would take the v6 Camaro stock. Lighter and more agile. Both vehicle have no rear leg room. The 3.8 engine in the 2010-2012 model is based on the Lambda engine shared by the 370z....which means low torque and high end horsepower. Since I have a camaro now, I love them...but when I had my 3.8, I murdered just about every v6 camaro at the track. No offense to v6ers
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True, the 2013 2.0T has extreme turbo lag, while the 3.8 would take the v6 Camaro stock. Lighter and more agile. Both vehicle have no rear leg room. The 3.8 engine in the 2010-2012 model is based on the Lambda engine shared by the 370z....which means low torque and high end horsepower. Since I have a camaro now, I love them...but when I had my 3.8, I murdered just about every v6 camaro at the track. No offense to v6ers
I agree that they are faster than v6 camaros, but i just love how the camaro looks. Genesis is meh.
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I agree that they are faster than v6 camaros, but i just love how the camaro looks. Genesis is meh.
Yep..its mostly about the looks. Thank goodness GM nailed the styling else we'd be seeing the Camaro go bye bye again.

If the Camaro weighed what it should weigh (A V6 in the 3,400 to 3,500 lb or less range.) it would be putting the Mustang V6 in its place and running right a long side the new Genesis.

The LFX has amazing potential..with the ability to add somewhere around 40+ HP with just a tune and an intake/exhaust, that would be killer in a 3,400 lb car.

Hopefully the 6th gen will take us there.
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Old 11-27-2012, 02:32 PM   #14
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Yep..its mostly about the looks. Thank goodness GM nailed the styling else we'd be seeing the Camaro go bye bye again.

If the Camaro weighed what it should weigh (A V6 in the 3,400 to 3,500 lb or less range.) it would be putting the Mustang V6 in its place and running right a long side the new Genesis.

The LFX has amazing potential..with the ability to add somewhere around 40+ HP with just a tune and an intake/exhaust, that would be killer in a 3,400 lb car.

Hopefully the 6th gen will take us there.
Speaking of v6 mustangs. Wonder how they will turn out if ford really gets rid of the live axle in 2015. As for the v6 muscle cars, camaro takes it.
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Speaking of v6 mustangs. Wonder how they will turn out if ford really gets rid of the live axle in 2015. As for the v6 muscle cars, camaro takes it.
I've heard plenty of people saying they like a V6 mustang more than the V6 camaro.

Personally I'm a big fan of buying a 'muscle' car and getting the V8 no matter what, but that's not everyone's beliefs.
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I've heard plenty of people saying they like a V6 mustang more than the V6 camaro.

Personally I'm a big fan of buying a 'muscle' car and getting the V8 no matter what, but that's not everyone's beliefs.
It goes into price and what not. Like for me, insurance and gas is not worth it. I will admit, stock wise, mustangs sound better, but v6 camaros were faster than pre-2010 Gt mustangs. I, personally, would take a Genisis over a mustang.
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It goes into price and what not. Like for me, insurance and gas is not worth it. I will admit, stock wise, mustangs sound better, but v6 camaros were faster than pre-2010 Gt mustangs. I, personally, would take a Genisis over a mustang.
Oh boy, stock for stock, the 2005-2010 Mustang GT is quicker than a stock Camaro V6 with equal drivers by a decent margin, a 99-04 Mustng GT is a good race.
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Oh boy, stock for stock, the 2005-2010 Mustang GT is quicker than a stock Camaro V6 with equal drivers by a decent margin, a 99-04 Mustng GT is a good race.
My camaro beat a 2010 Gt at a track. They're only running around 316 hp

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My camaro beat a 2010 Gt at a track. They're only running around 316 hp
You beat a driver., they have more torque and are lighter. As I said, equal drivers, Mustang gets the win. 2010 GTs were capable of mid 13s.
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You beat a driver., they have more torque and are lighter. As I said, equal drivers, Mustang gets the win. 2010 GTs were capable of mid 13s.
2010 should win. 2009 GTs are running 300 hp with the smart 4.6 ontop of that the torque is killed by their heavy live axle. Every camaro I've seen race a mustang wins off the line because of that. Rolling live axle is great. Dead stop, not so much.
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It goes into price and what not. Like for me, insurance and gas is not worth it. I will admit, stock wise, mustangs sound better, but v6 camaros were faster than pre-2010 Gt mustangs. I, personally, would take a Genisis over a mustang.
Completely understandable
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What happened to Hyundai's being the cheapest in their class ? They are now the most expensive.
New marketing strat I guess. While they aren't bad cars anymore, I think they are still a bit over priced.

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Yep..its mostly about the looks. Thank goodness GM nailed the styling else we'd be seeing the Camaro go bye bye again.

If the Camaro weighed what it should weigh (A V6 in the 3,400 to 3,500 lb or less range.) it would be putting the Mustang V6 in its place and running right a long side the new Genesis.

The LFX has amazing potential..with the ability to add somewhere around 40+ HP with just a tune and an intake/exhaust, that would be killer in a 3,400 lb car.

Hopefully the 6th gen will take us there.
+ The LLt and LFX are great engines. Nissan's VQ was considered one of the best V6 engines ever made and made Ward's top ten list a lot. It was 3.5 liters and only made 255. Even with every bolt on imaginable you could barely make 300 crank EST.

A 3.6L making 312 is great and bolt ons can net you conservatively around 330 Hp. Very impressive...

We just need to get that weight down.

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Seriously. The 2.0T and 3.8 are nearly the same price. Personally, I don't like the look and if you talk about the 2.0T, slow as a sloth. Such bad throttle response in that. The 3.8 is better, but I feel like had chevy made camaros lighter (if it was possible or not idk) the camaro would be much faster. I do think GM needs to kick it up a notch in the V6 though. All these other v6s are getting beefy each year.
Agreed but don't get it twisted, the 2010 V6 Camaros were one of the fastest new cars you could buy for the money when they first came out. Everyone has caught up...

When they came out, don't forget the V6 Stang had 200 HP LOL and it was and still is a driver's race with the pre 5.0 GTs.
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Yeah my point exactly though. As for v6's the Genesis is the fastest (aside from a gtr and what not) but looks I still give it to the camaro.
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It goes into price and what not. Like for me, insurance and gas is not worth it. I will admit, stock wise, mustangs sound better, but v6 camaros were faster than pre-2010 Gt mustangs. I, personally, would take a Genisis over a mustang.
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My camaro beat a 2010 Gt at a track. They're only running around 316 hp
Yeah? That dude needed a driver mod then.

The cars are lighter with more torque, they should be faster. HP isn't everything.
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