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Old 12-20-2012, 08:00 PM   #51
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I need some assistance. I just installed the billy boat exhaust on my vert. I was NOT told when I ordered it that it isn't a direct bolt on for a vert. The rear sub frame connectors had to be completely removed so the rear section piping could be put on. My service manager doesn't like that at all even if I work there. I need to know what I can do in the form of an aftermarket sub frame kit..or let the dealer try to "fab" up a solution to get the back of the car correct again...the kit is awesome (too quiet tho).

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Old 12-20-2012, 08:20 PM   #52
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I need some assistance. I just installed the billy boat exhaust on my vert. I was NOT told when I ordered it that it isn't a direct bolt on for a vert. The rear sub frame connectors had to be completely removed so the rear section piping could be put on. My service manager doesn't like that at all even if I work there. I need to know what I can do in the form of an aftermarket sub frame kit..or let the dealer try to "fab" up a solution to get the back of the car correct again...the kit is awesome (too quiet tho).

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I would contact Billy Boat to see what thier solution is.
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:30 PM   #53
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I would contact Billy Boat to see what thier solution is.
I spoke with mike@billyboat and he doesn't know. They haven't done a vert zl1 yet in house. He was going to get with engineering but he didn't know what would come of that. The pipe attached to the mufflers would have to be redone or a different version of the subframe connector would be needed. He can't be specific because there is no vert in house to look at. I sent him another email but I won't get a reply until tomorrow. I was just looking for opinions from y'all on possible solutions so I could keep the kit...
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I spoke with mike@billyboat and he doesn't know. They haven't done a vert zl1 yet in house. He was going to get with engineering but he didn't know what would come of that. The pipe attached to the mufflers would have to be redone or a different version of the subframe connector would be needed. He can't be specific because there is no vert in house to look at. I sent him another email but I won't get a reply until tomorrow. I was just looking for opinions from y'all on possible solutions so I could keep the kit...
You might want to volunteer your car for it, may get some type of freebies out of it.
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:34 PM   #55
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:36 PM   #56
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I spoke with mike@billyboat and he doesn't know. They haven't done a vert zl1 yet in house. He was going to get with engineering but he didn't know what would come of that. The pipe attached to the mufflers would have to be redone or a different version of the subframe connector would be needed. He can't be specific because there is no vert in house to look at. I sent him another email but I won't get a reply until tomorrow. I was just looking for opinions from y'all on possible solutions so I could keep the kit...
Ask him if he still needs a vert and what kind of deal he will give me? To make a long story short, I live about 30 minutes from their shop. I have been looking for a loud catback and one of the local shops(who is also a sponsor here) had mentioned the Billy Boat and supposedly spoke with them and they were willing to bring my vert in and fit their ZL1 system to my ZL1 vert so they could make their ZL1 vert system(as they hadn't had one in the shop as you mentioned). Anyway, for the past 6 weeks I have left a million e-mails, texts, phone messages, etc... and have yet to get a hold of the guy to finalize the details. A few weeks ago I finally just gave up; not sure why he is blowing me off. I thought about calling Billy Boat myself and just going direct through them and may do that now.

When you say it is too quiet; do you have any sound clips? Do you have the mild to wild hooked up as well? How much louder than stock is it? You are giving me cold feet as I am looking to get as loud as I can without headers.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:47 PM   #57
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Ask him if he still needs a vert and what kind of deal he will give me? To make a long story short, I live about 30 minutes from their shop. I have been looking for a loud catback and one of the local shops(who is also a sponsor here) had mentioned the Billy Boat and supposedly spoke with them and they were willing to bring my vert in and fit their ZL1 system to my ZL1 vert so they could make their ZL1 vert system(as they hadn't had one in the shop as you mentioned). Anyway, for the past 6 weeks I have left a million e-mails, texts, phone messages, etc... and have yet to get a hold of the guy to finalize the details. A few weeks ago I finally just gave up; not sure why he is blowing me off. I thought about calling Billy Boat myself and just going direct through them and may do that now.

When you say it is too quiet; do you have any sound clips? Do you have the mild to wild hooked up as well? How much louder than stock is it? You are giving me cold feet as I am looking to get as loud as I can without headers.
Remember, I a coming from a HCI Z06 with headers and Corsa. so love loud.

My personal opinion is that the billy boat and stock are basically even in volume (stock is louder slightly with valves open). I laughed when I cranked it up post bb install thinking my m2w wasn't working because it was no louder than stock. I was wrong...they are even. The billy boat is a more refined, bolder and deeper tone...probably perfect after headers. Which is where I will probably end up.

I dont have any sound clips...just installed today.

Hope this helps...I was a bit disappointed. But will probably be very satisfied when headers are mated with the bb exhaust.

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Old 12-20-2012, 11:25 PM   #58
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Remember, I a coming from a HCI Z06 with headers and Corsa. so love loud.

My personal opinion is that the billy boat and stock are basically even in volume (stock is louder slightly with valves open). I laughed when I cranked it up post bb install thinking my m2w wasn't working because it was no louder than stock. I was wrong...they are even. The billy boat is a more refined, bolder and deeper tone...probably perfect after headers. Which is where I will probably end up.

I dont have any sound clips...just installed today.

Hope this helps...I was a bit disappointed. But will probably be very satisfied when headers are mated with the bb exhaust.

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I can relate as I am coming from a highly modified 2002 SS 35th LE vert with GMMG chambered exhaust and American Racing headers. My wife(and the whole neighborhood) hear me coming about a mile away. When I came home with my ZL1 my wife and kids were laughing because of how quiet it was and they didn't even hear me come into the garage. I know that the ZL1 isn't going to sound anywhere near that without headers, but was hoping that we could at least bump it up a notch or two. I know when I originally put the GMMG on the 02 without headers, it made a big difference over the stock sound. When first considering the Billy Boat I called them up and spoke with Mike and asked if they had any decibel comparisons of stock versus theirs(they have the data for some of their systems on their website but not the ZL1 system). He stated that they hadn't done that yet but that there was a noticeable difference in loudness from the open side of the muffler. He said the quiet side was about the same as stock.
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I can relate as I am coming from a highly modified 2002 SS 35th LE vert with GMMG chambered exhaust and American Racing headers. My wife(and the whole neighborhood) hear me coming about a mile away. When I came home with my ZL1 my wife and kids were laughing because of how quiet it was and they didn't even hear me come into the garage. I know that the ZL1 isn't going to sound anywhere near that without headers, but was hoping that we could at least bump it up a notch or two. I know when I originally put the GMMG on the 02 without headers, it made a big difference over the stock sound. When first considering the Billy Boat I called them up and spoke with Mike and asked if they had any decibel comparisons of stock versus theirs(they have the data for some of their systems on their website but not the ZL1 system). He stated that they hadn't done that yet but that there was a noticeable difference in loudness from the open side of the muffler. He said the quiet side was about the same as stock.
BB is not going to be as loud as corsa or CMMG. The ZL1's midepipe calms sound down alot. you could just do that without longtubes and get quite a bit more volume.

that is what I am going to try the JBA midepipe I think. I have a friend with BB on his Z06 and knew it was not going to be worth the Cash when I heard my stock ZL1 right away.

we had them side by side.

headers on the stock exhaust will sound way better than stock with B&B. so spend that money on midepipe or headrs first IMO. then if the tone of the B&B is what your after add it then.
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Old 12-21-2012, 05:07 PM   #60
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Just got off the phone with Mike at Billy Boat. They are gonna do my vert in the next couple of weeks. Might not be until after the holidays because they are closed the next 2 monday and tuesdays for christmas and then new years; so probably right after that. We aren't going to do the dual mode; gonna do just the single straight through(don't need it toned down). Will let everyione know how it goes. Thanks Scott for your help.
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Old 12-21-2012, 05:10 PM   #61
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BB is not going to be as loud as corsa or CMMG. The ZL1's midepipe calms sound down alot. you could just do that without longtubes and get quite a bit more volume.

that is what I am going to try the JBA midepipe I think. I have a friend with BB on his Z06 and knew it was not going to be worth the Cash when I heard my stock ZL1 right away.

we had them side by side.

headers on the stock exhaust will sound way better than stock with B&B. so spend that money on midepipe or headrs first IMO. then if the tone of the B&B is what your after add it then.
Eventually I am gonna go with headers but not ready to go there yet. Too afraid that something will happen down the road(i.e. supercharger go out) and they will try to get out of the warranty because of the headers. I amcurious how the JBA's will sound. Please let us know when you have it done.
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Old 12-21-2012, 06:06 PM   #62
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Just got off the phone with Mike at Billy Boat. They are gonna do my vert in the next couple of weeks. Might not be until after the holidays because they are closed the next 2 monday and tuesdays for christmas and then new years; so probably right after that. We aren't going to do the dual mode; gonna do just the single straight through(don't need it toned down). Will let everyione know how it goes. Thanks Scott for your help.


You are welcome! Glad I could help out!!!!

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Old 01-04-2013, 11:48 PM   #63
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Just dropped my car off with Billy this afternoon. Should have it back towards the end of next week. I took a short "before" sound clip last night and will make an "after" clip to compare and post.
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Just dropped my car off with Billy this afternoon. Should have it back towards the end of next week. I took a short "before" sound clip last night and will make an "after" clip to compare and post.
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Just got home a couple of hours ago and just finished making the "after" video. Will try to get it posted tonight; I am very technologically challenged so may need some help. I am having difficulty telling how it sounds since the past week I have been driving my 02 SS that is LOOUUUDDDD. So it sounds quiet, but I think it is louder than before and a little deeper; at least thats what the wife and kids tell me. We are also going to be switching the mufflers in the next week or so as there was a breakdown in communication and they put the dual-mode mufflers on and it was supposed to be the single straight through muffler; which will make it louder(Billy's dad passed away monday morning so thats why things took a little longer and hence the confusion). Overall I am extremely pleased with the quality; their facility is amazing and they definitely know what they are doing in making these systems.
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It keeps saying that a security token is missing when trying to upload. It is saved as a .mov on my phone and on my computer. How do I upload this?
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It keeps saying that a security token is missing when trying to upload. It is saved as a .mov on my phone and on my computer. How do I upload this?
upload to youtube, then copy the URL and paste it to here.
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I have never used youtube before and thought this may be difficult; but was actually pretty easy.

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As with mine deeper rumbles, not louder, about the same in loudness with the two.
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As with mine deeper rumbles, not louder, about the same in loudness with the two.
Yep, definitely depper, but can't really tell any difference in loudness. Also sounds a little cleaner or smoother. I will post up another clip once we switch the mufflers from the bi-modal to single-mode. He said that it should be louder even thoughcurrently the vacuum lines are pulled and fuse pulled and it is essentially in single mode.
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Yep, definitely depper, but can't really tell any difference in loudness. Also sounds a little cleaner or smoother. I will post up another clip once we switch the mufflers from the bi-modal to single-mode. He said that it should be louder even thoughcurrently the vacuum lines are pulled and fuse pulled and it is essentially in single mode.
interested in how they did the hoses (vacuum lines) too. Like I said with mine I had to totally reroute the hoses in order for it to work.
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interested in how they did the hoses (vacuum lines) too. Like I said with mine I had to totally reroute the hoses in order for it to work.
I'm not sure what they did with the hoses; didn't come up in the discussion. When I went back to look at the car in the air and he mentioned that is was bi-modal, I at first thought he was kidding. When he realized that Billy and Mike forgot to tell him he pulled the vacuum lines and plugged them real quick as we were talking. I told him that the fuse has been pulled since the first week but figured we would plug them anyways to be doubly sure.
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Ok, got the single mode mufflers on finally. It sounds bad ass. Definitely louder and more throaty. My goal was for it to sound as loud as possible without going to headers and also sound "muscley" if that is even a word; mission accomplished.
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Did you have to send the dual mode mufflers back? If not, how much do you want for them?
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