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Old 06-08-2009, 04:55 PM   #1
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Stripes improperly installed?

So I just got my car back from the dealer and there's a ton of bubbling on my newly installed stripes.

The bubbling isn't uniform, some are around the edges, some in the middle, some larger and some smaller but I was shocked at how many there are.

They are telling me that having it out in the sun where the stripes can be exposed to heat will fix this but I noticed another camaro next to mine whose stripes were also installed today didn't have near as many bubbles.

Can anyone who had dealer installed stripes tell me if this is normal or if I should take it back to the dealer?

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Old 06-08-2009, 04:58 PM   #2
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Pull them off and reorder new ones....If they are installed correct by a Pro they should not have bubbles at all ....I am thinking they installed them dry, they should have used Liquid and they could have squesed out the Bubbles
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Old 06-08-2009, 05:00 PM   #3
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It is true that the Sun will take care of most of it....You can also take a Needle and put a small hole in each Bubble but on a 2010 Camaro I would have no part of that ...I think The Installer should buy you a new set and when he does have someone else install the new ones
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Old 06-08-2009, 05:07 PM   #4
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Yeah, definitely make the dealer order you some new ones (better make it express!) and either make them install them or pay for you to have them professionally installed. I say have them professionally installed because they are OBVIOUSLY incompetent!
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Old 06-08-2009, 05:15 PM   #5
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I was afraid of that. I use vinyl in glass etching and the bubbles don't come out. The only way to get a smooth surface is to get a smooth surface the first time. Period.

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Old 06-08-2009, 05:18 PM   #6
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My Dealer outsources this work to a pro for exactly this reason....this should be done by someone who knows what they are doing!
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Old 06-08-2009, 05:19 PM   #7
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Bubbles are bad. Take it back and raise hell. I helped install mine and they look great. You can' t use any heat on these stripes they are to thin.
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Old 06-08-2009, 05:51 PM   #8
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Don't get in too big a rush, do what he said, if they're still there then raise stink.
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Old 06-08-2009, 06:33 PM   #9
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So some that responded have had stripes put on with no bubbles. That's obviously the preferred way. Has anyone had them installed with bubbles, left it in the sun and seen them disappear???

I'll try to take some photos when I get home and post those. Perhaps that will reveal why I'm so ticked off.
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:42 PM   #10
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Yes, I've had decals with bubbles, and yes small ones do disappear. It's also important the area be SUPER clean. Photo would be great.
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When I talked to her the question I asked was if they were liquid installed as well. I thought maybe small bubbles of the alcohol water mix could be trapped but would evaporate away. She said they were dry installed. I dont see how anyone could work with the sticky stripes without a lubricant to allow for proper fit and squeegee out the air. I did not order the stripes so I have not read the instructions. Do any of you guys have a set to see what they say. Bottom line. If they are not right I would bet that they can make them right. Its an lpo so it should be under warranty anyway.
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Old 06-08-2009, 10:29 PM   #12
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Not sure if they were installed wet or dry. But will find out tomorrow if I can get the dealer on the phone.

I don't think they cleaned the surface properly first and now discovered they scratched the crap out of my hood too.

Pretty ticked off right now and have called numerous times and can't get anyone to call me back.

Yep, they will fix it all one way or the other. They didn't wash the car down so I fully expect to find scratches on the sides of the car too where they rubbed up against it while installing them.

Tried to take pix but couldn't get the camera to focus with the glare. I'll keep trying though.
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Old 06-08-2009, 10:32 PM   #13
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All the stripes I have seen put on did not have any bubbles. I have watched professionals do striping, if a bubble gets underneath they pull it up and start again. Like most of the guys have said it should be done with a soapy solution to help eliminate bubbles.
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Old 06-08-2009, 10:45 PM   #14
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That doesn't sound right.

I'd be back at the dealer and strongly suggesting a new set be applied.
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Old 06-08-2009, 10:53 PM   #15
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There is two ways to install vinyl, WET or DRY. Wet is the better method using a vinyl Installation Fluid. YES, when you do it dry it does get bubbles and 95% of them will disappear with a few hours in the sun. The other 5% you can take a pin and hit them in the middle and use a squeegee to push them down.

I would leave it in the sun for a day and if they do not look good, then raise holy hell.
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Old 06-09-2009, 01:16 PM   #16
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Spoke with dealer. Stripes were installed using a wet system. He swears that the bubbles will work their way out over the course of about three days if I can leave the car in the sun. Hard to do right now with our weather but I will give them the benefit of the doubt.

They will also be buffing out all the scratches the put on my hood and trunk.

Bottom line - don't leave your car alone and if you can be there to help, that would be a great idea. Sure glad this will be covered under warranty if the problem persists.

Amazing that even a dealer wouldn't recognize the value of this car and take extreme measures to protect it!
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Amazing that even a dealer wouldn't recognize the value of this car and take extreme measures to protect it!
Unfortunately to some dealers, it's JUST another new car....they could care less about it.....
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So... It's a day later, looking better?
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Dam they put the stripes on wrong and scratch the hood and trunk as well. Unbelievable..

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Old 06-10-2009, 02:44 PM   #20
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Could only leave it in the sun for about 4 hours yesterday and then the rain came pouring down. Cloudy, cold and rainy again today. I didn't notice much if any change in the bubbling. I'll keep you all posted. I'm sick to my stomach and haven't been able to make myself go out to the garage to look at it much. With the crappy weather I haven't been able to wash it up to really inspect the damage. From the sounds of the forecast, will probably be a while before I can.

The timing has been off with this car from the very start. I seem to constantly take one step back for every two steps forward. I have a major headache from it.

Truthfully, I don't even trust them to buff out the car... I'm afraid they will make it worse.

I can't tell you how much this disappointment is overwhelming me right now. Between the gloomy weather and my barely one week old Camaro being scratched already, it's all I can do to even think about my car right now. I'm stuck and can't do much about it and there's no end in sight. Weather forecast is for cold and rain for at least the next week.

Yes I'm whining and thanks for listening. Only members of this sight understand how tragic this is!
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Old 06-12-2009, 11:09 PM   #21
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Update:

After over a week of rain, it sounds like we will have at least a half day of warm, sunny weather tomorrow and maybe all day on Sunday. So I will get the car out into the sun and will report back Sunday evening whether the "heat" theory works.

I seriously doubt it will make a difference. It has been 4 days since the stripes were installed and I would assume that in my garage, they would have dried a little.

More in a couple days.
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So some that responded have had stripes put on with no bubbles. That's obviously the preferred way. Has anyone had them installed with bubbles, left it in the sun and seen them disappear???

I'll try to take some photos when I get home and post those. Perhaps that will reveal why I'm so ticked off.
bud mine never came out and I've had it 3 weeks now. luck has it they were all near the edge and when hot in the sun, they worked out easy. but they don't magically go away
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Your right. I followed the directions of the dealer and they have not come out. In addition, when I try to work them out when the stripes are warm, all that seem to happen is the vinyl stretches. There are so many of them I really think they will just have to do it over.

Going to the dealer tomorrow. We'll see what they say about it. They still have to buff out the scraches they left on the hood. The more I look at them, the more I'm convinced the marks were left by the plastic squeegy they use to smooth out the stripes.

They simply didn't prep the car correctly. It was filthy when I got it back and that tells me they didn't wash it well enough.
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