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Old 12-05-2012, 11:45 PM   #26
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:57 PM   #27
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I don't know about the V6 CAI's but there's a DOCUMENTED difference in the V8 CAI's. Nothing stupid or arrogant about it. You can get a K&N CAI for $200-250 or get twice the HP for $350-400.

It's pretty bold to say someone is settling for a middle of the line SS when YOU have the bottom of the line.
Twice the HP as a K&N? Which intake is that?
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:07 AM   #28
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Depends on how you look at it, Grasshopper. You paid for the top of he line and ended up with an also ran. I got exactly what I wanted, and had enough money left over to get a lot of other stuff. Since I don't race, I am not impressed with an SS, and chose not to spend the money on un-used power, which would have been stupid. While there are differences between everything, that difference is not enough to justify a 300 percent price difference. Been there, done that. If you choose to spend your money on a name tag, go right ahead. I, however, will laugh all the way to the bank, and end up with pretty much the same result.
So what did you end up buying with your "leftover money"? Since I got the top of the line SS/RS, I got everything I wanted. Your comment had nothing to do with getting what we want. It was saying that the SS/RS is middle of the line car. Seeing that both mine and Litle's are 2010 SS/RS models, they are both indeed top of the line vehicles in their year and every year till this one. You bought a bottom of the line car in any year. If that's what you wanted, then that's fine but it's yelling from the cheap seats when you make comments like that when you're several tiers below that. I don't race mine much, but I sure as hell like extra power to get around town and in/out of traffic. V8 power is useful in all kinds of places that don't have time clocks at the end of them. Just because someone spent whatever money on any mods is their own business. Just because you spent less on your ebay intake doesn't mean you got the deal. I just means you bought a cheap intake. Seeing that you're equating your gains on a Solstice to your Camaro shows you know very little about intake science. Yes building a great intake is a science. These guys didn't just bend a pipe and put a filter on the end of it, like your ebay intake. If you don't believe me, ask RacnJasn. He's been trying to perfect his intake for almost a year now. Getting one right for any vehicle takes time and understanding of what makes this car perform better. What may work on one vehicle may not necessarily work on another.


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Old 12-06-2012, 08:01 AM   #29
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9.5hp x 2 =14.2 hp ??
I don't think that is double , but I'm wrong a lot .
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Yeah that's true! But has anyone on here experienced both?

Yes several of us have tried both or more.

Performance wise from a daily driver point of view, Vararam is great because it isn't affected by the underhood temps, especially in the summer like the metal box metal tube intakes are. I think there is a noticable difference.

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Yes several of us have tried both or more.

Performance wise from a daily driver point of view, Vararam is great because it isn't affected by the underhood temps, especially in the summer like the metal box metal tube intakes are. I think there is a noticable difference.

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^ This! finally someone posting in regards to the OP. But performance wise, does the CAI increase up on your list with the ADM scoop?

BTW, I just had to give in to the flame part of this thread, but when the person said they should have gotten a ZL1 .... hmmf...if the date stamp on those photos are correct, the SS was top of the line in 2010.
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:24 PM   #32
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9.5hp x 2 =14.2 hp ??
I don't think that is double , but I'm wrong a lot .
Depends on whether you look at peak or average.
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:29 PM   #33
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Depends on whether you look at peak or average.
Thanks for the link Axis. Very informative.
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So what did you end up buying with your "leftover money"? Since I got the top of the line SS/RS, I got everything I wanted. Your comment had nothing to do with getting what we want. It was saying that the SS/RS is middle of the line car. Seeing that both mine and Litle's are 2010 SS/RS models, they are both indeed top of the line vehicles in their year and every year till this one. You bought a bottom of the line car in any year. If that's what you wanted, then that's fine but it's yelling from the cheap seats when you make comments like that when you're several tiers below that. I don't race mine much, but I sure as hell like extra power to get around town and in/out of traffic. V8 power is useful in all kinds of places that don't have time clocks at the end of them. Just because someone spent whatever money on any mods is their own business. Just because you spent less on your ebay intake doesn't mean you got the deal. I just means you bought a cheap intake. Seeing that you're equating your gains on a Solstice to your Camaro shows you know very little about intake science. Yes building a great intake is a science. These guys didn't just bend a pipe and put a filter on the end of it, like your ebay intake. If you don't believe me, ask RacnJasn. He's been trying to perfect his intake for almost a year now. Getting one right for any vehicle takes time and understanding of what makes this car perform better. What may work on one vehicle may not necessarily work on another.




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Grassjumper....The SS is the middle of the line. ZL1 is the top. You don't know what I have, but it gets the same bottom line results as the expensive Fujita that was and is sold by GM dealers. That is what counts...not juvenile stickers and obsession with name brand. Results count, not brand.
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Depends on whether you look at peak or average.

It would appear that a cold air intake with the JRE Race Scoop would give you the best of both worlds.... Ram air and CAI with a MAF located in the "stock" position compaired to the Vararam for similar price.

Your thoughts?
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You don't know what I have, but it gets the same bottom line results as the expensive Fujita that was and is sold by GM dealers. That is what counts...not juvenile stickers and obsession with name brand. Results count, not brand.
You previously mentioned, "No brand on the box or on eBay" for your Camaro's CAI.

So, technically, you don't even know what you have.
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You previously mentioned, "No brand on the box or on eBay" for your Camaro's CAI.

So, technically, you don't even know what you have.

Shouldn't we just ignore ebay man now?
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^ This! finally someone posting in regards to the OP. But performance wise, does the CAI increase up on your list with the ADM scoop?

BTW, I just had to give in to the flame part of this thread, but when the person said they should have gotten a ZL1 .... hmmf...if the date stamp on those photos are correct, the SS was top of the line in 2010.
Yes it was and I still would not buy a ZL1 lol

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Yes we should please. OP indeedSS breaks it down pretty good. I have a vararam as you can see on my pics and love it no regrets.
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Grassjumper....The SS is the middle of the line. ZL1 is the top. You don't know what I have, but it gets the same bottom line results as the expensive Fujita that was and is sold by GM dealers. That is what counts...not juvenile stickers and obsession with name brand. Results count, not brand.
You have no leg to stand on. ZL1 is only the top of the line starting THIS YEAR. What year is your bottom of the line V6? Oh, it doesn't matter since it was ALWAYS the bottom of the line. I haven't seen a Fujita CAI for the Camaro so I can't comment on it, unless you're still spouting your Solstice SUPER CAR comparison.

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It would appear that a cold air intake with the JRE Race Scoop would give you the best of both worlds.... Ram air and CAI with a MAF located in the "stock" position compaired to the Vararam for similar price.

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First of all, Ram air in the sense that it's ramming air into your engine is a myth. I didn't bring the scoop into the mix because it's an extra cost and, theoretically, should increase the HP of any OEM location CAI that has the bottom open. I've never been a fan of VR in general, for various reasons, but they have their fanboys. I'm sure it's a good unit. If you want the absolutely most from a OEM location CAI, the scoop is a must. All of them are the roughly the same so it's not like one scoop performs better than the other.
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Where did you get this $350 price? They are still $399 on the VR website, but the price varies by vendor.

You've already got an intake, you might as well keep what you have. They both have their own pro's and cons.
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You could get a K&N intake for $235 and the scoop kit for 150 and come pretty darn close to the VR intake price.....
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You could get a K&N intake for $235 and the scoop kit for 150 and come pretty darn close to the VR intake price.....
Umm but not the same performance.
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Umm but not the same performance.
Obviously since its not the same setup, you wont get the "same" performance. The same can be said with any crossing of brands. If you are stating that the VR intake is superior to a CAI with a "ram air scoop" I rather not get into that debate. I was simply pointing out the cost of a VR intake vs the cost of a CAI intake with ram air scoop.
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It would appear that a cold air intake with the JRE Race Scoop would give you the best of both worlds.... Ram air and CAI with a MAF located in the "stock" position compaired to the Vararam for similar price.

Your thoughts?
The numbers in Jannetty's test show that the Halltech out performs the C.A.I. The Halltech wasn't tested with the scoop, but if it was it would beat C.A.I. a bit.

C.A.I., Halltech, Vararam; They all work fine.

Going with C.A.I. for me would be like following the herd. Not my style, but it sure is a good product. Well built and performs. I don't like it's looks but the majority here sure seem to like it.

Halltech out performs C.A.I. according to Jannetty's test but it didn't catch on like C.A.I. did here. I think this is also a great intake.

Vararam wasn't in the test, but has many faithful followers. It looks more like a full on road race car's intake. Not really pretty like a C.A.I., but I can appreciate function before form. I have the Vararam and I like it a lot. But I'm not going to recommend it just because I own it. The others are good choices too.

If you are not buying an intake right now, then I'd suggest thinking about waiting for the Jac-Fab intake to come out. It is a new design and it would appear to be staged to be the new top dog.

Ain't it great that we have many good choices ???
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The numbers in Jannetty's test show that the Halltech out performs the C.A.I. The Halltech wasn't tested with the scoop, but if it was it would beat C.A.I. a bit.

C.A.I., Halltech, Vararam; They all work fine.

Going with C.A.I. for me would be like following the herd. Not my style, but it sure is a good product. Well built and performs. I don't like it's looks but the majority here sure seem to like it.

Halltech out performs C.A.I. according to Jannetty's test but it didn't catch on like C.A.I. did here. I think this is also a great intake.

Vararam wasn't in the test, but has many faithful followers. It looks more like a full on road race car's intake. Not really pretty like a C.A.I., but I can appreciate function before form. I have the Vararam and I like it a lot. But I'm not going to recommend it just because I own it. The others are good choices too.

If you are not buying an intake right now, then I'd suggest thinking about waiting for the Jac-Fab intake to come out. It is a new design and it would appear to be staged to be the new top dog.

Ain't it great that we have many good choices ???

Yes the Camaro aftermarket just gets better and better and will continue to be the reason for threads like these. I actually like the look of the Vararam over a CAI but people "appear" to have less issues with the CAI.

What style intake is the Jac-Fab?
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I've been reading this all thread all day. It doesn't strike me as a VR vs CAI, it's a VR or CAI, that's just me though.
I have a VR and one of the main reasons was because it doesn't look like every other intake out there, that's my opinion.
I have no doubt all of them are good products, and as Cruuzin LV said, the new Jac-Fab looks very interesting.
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JacFab has the air box in the stock location. It uses a flat air filter panel instead of a cone filter for straight non-turbulent air flow. It is heat shielded with thick silicone sheet on the air box and the 4" tube is all silicone.

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You previously mentioned, "No brand on the box or on eBay" for your Camaro's CAI.

So, technically, you don't even know what you have.

Doesn't matter. Well made and gets the same results at 1/3 the price. Works for me. A CAI is not a high tech marvel built by NASA. Pretty simple device, actually, for most uses.
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