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Old 12-08-2012, 10:35 AM   #1
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New radiator! Mishimoto CSS-10

To combat the 240+ degree temps I saw at the road course in Nov, I decided to upgrade the radiator. This radiator is supposed to be much better than the stock Denso piece. Cost...amazingly only $380 and it looks great. The Be Cool is $850 ish and I couldn't see anything that appeared $400 better. It says it fits in the stock setup with no fabrication....we shall see. Here is a pic.
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Old 12-08-2012, 01:48 PM   #2
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keep us posted it looks great. Any weight savings with that piece?
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Old 12-08-2012, 04:26 PM   #3
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That's a great price. Dewitts has a high performance radiator for the Camaro and its $595, but it has an internal transmission oil cooler. The BeCool radiator is a bit steep for a radiator IMO. I can see if it was a custom radiator, but not for a production model. I will look into this as well, thanks for the heads up
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:14 PM   #4
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keep us posted it looks great. Any weight savings with that piece?
I doubt it is lighter. My feeling it is slightly heavier because of the bigger core.
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:28 PM   #5
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unfortunately there are a couple problems with the install. Our ZL1 cars (at least my automatic) has a fitting at the base on the lower driver's side that isn't present on the new radiator...arrgh! I suppose I could use the drain plug location for a fitting. Also, the fan upper retaining screw bosses are 21" apart center to center and the original ZL1 is 22". I underestimated GM and "assumed" they used the same radiator as the SS to save money...not the case. I will proceed with removing the radiator and see if I can make the new one work. The way this looks, there may not be anything that fits our cars without consulting an expert such as Griffin or Be Cool directly. My fault, I should have contacted Lingenfelter or ADM first but I was sure this would be a slam dunk.
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:36 PM   #6
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That's a great price. Dewitts has a high performance radiator for the Camaro and its $595, but it has an internal transmission oil cooler. The BeCool radiator is a bit steep for a radiator IMO. I can see if it was a custom radiator, but not for a production model. I will look into this as well, thanks for the heads up
the dewitts part is correct. here is a pic of the right one.

http://www.dewitts.com/collections/c...minum-radiator

the mishimoto part doesn't look like it will be working for me...darn it.
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Old 12-09-2012, 03:46 AM   #7
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the dewitts part is correct. here is a pic of the right one.

http://www.dewitts.com/collections/c...minum-radiator

the mishimoto part doesn't look like it will be working for me...darn it.
Will you be trying out the Dewitts? I have it on my wish list and it would be great if someone were to put it in and report definite improvements in cooling. Keep us posted.
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:34 AM   #8
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Will you be trying out the Dewitts? I have it on my wish list and it would be great if someone were to put it in and report definite improvements in cooling. Keep us posted.
The stocker is not going back in the car. I just ordered the Dewitts last night. It is more expensive for sure, but should be worth it. As I checked the various manufacturers pics, the Dewitts one is the only one that has the correct fitting as all of the others (Mishimoto, Stillen, Flex a lite, Be Cool) is lacking this extra hose connection. Anyone with a 10-11 SS want to buy a brand new Mishimoto radiator? LOL!
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:47 AM   #9
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The stocker is not going back in the car. I just ordered the Dewitts last night. It is more expensive for sure, but should be worth it. As I checked the various manufacturers pics, the Dewitts one is the only one that has the correct fitting as all of the others (Mishimoto, Stillen, Flex a lite, Be Cool) is lacking this extra hose connection. Anyone with a 10-11 SS want to buy a brand new Mishimoto radiator? LOL!
You know, since you have a supercharged LSA, have you heard of the super chillers by AI Chillers? Here's the link from the forum:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=204090
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Old 12-23-2012, 05:36 PM   #10
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does this fit an ss?
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Old 12-23-2012, 06:06 PM   #11
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does this fit an ss?
yes...2010-2011 SS. check your stocker where the fan mounts. you can buy mine because 2012 is different. I will give you a good price.
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Old 12-23-2012, 06:31 PM   #12
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ok sounds good pm me!!! not a hundred percent sure it will fit for me for me with my aftermarket supercharger though.
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Old 12-23-2012, 06:49 PM   #13
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hey pm pictures of it please.
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Old 12-23-2012, 07:10 PM   #14
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first post on this thread is the radiator as I unboxed it and found it wouldn't work on a '12
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Old 01-10-2013, 04:59 PM   #15
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Hey guys,

We are working on updating our site to reflect the proper fitment for this product to 10-11 SS models only. We are also in the R&D phase for a 12+ radiator and we are considering ZL1 fitment. I will keep the forum updated with our progress. I also open to any feedback on the installation and fitment of this radiator in 10-11 models.

If anyone has any questions or concerns about this radiator or any of our products please feel free to contact me through PM or email directly: jmarsteller@mishimoto.com.

Check out our install video for assistance with installation of this radiator:


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Would taking out the theromstat entirely and swapping over to electric water pump be an option?
- a trick we used to play, was drilling out the floater in the 160 stats and making a new hole on the oposite side for more flow. Eventually we just got rid of our thermostats for track duty.
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Old 01-11-2013, 03:33 PM   #18
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Would taking out the theromstat entirely and swapping over to electric water pump be an option?
- a trick we used to play, was drilling out the floater in the 160 stats and making a new hole on the oposite side for more flow. Eventually we just got rid of our thermostats for track duty.
Removing the thermostat completely is likely fine for a track specific vehicle. On something that sees the road on a somewhat regular basis I would recommend keeping the thermostat. It aids in proper warmup and not running one on a newer vehicle is basically guaranteed to set a CEL.
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