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Old 12-11-2012, 08:08 AM   #18
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Guess I'm the guy who drives it like I stole it... I dump mine, and I went the cheap route off of eBay, every oil change. Just a couple weeks ago, I dumped mine and found about 1 1/4 cups worth of oil. Ideally, I would rather catch it before it gets sent back in the intake to "burn" up. And from the countless threads I've read all seem to have a great deal of info arguing longevity. For me and my ride, it's a definate must-have!
can you send me the link to the catch can you bought off of ebay. Thanks
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:20 AM   #19
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how important is a catch can? what can happen if i dont get one? i already have 27,000 miles and no catch can yet
Important to me. Check out this thread. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112367

As far as the cheap cans go, good luck with those. I tested three cans and while all caught oil tow of them also allowed oil to be pulled through and into the intake. Sure getting any can is better than none, but what is the point getting one in the first place only to go cheap and get one that doesn't do it's job efficiently.

Most of the people that tell you you don't need a catch can are the ones that have never hooked one up to see what it does.
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:25 AM   #20
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Catch cans are absolutely not needed. The oil is sucked back into the engine because the intake runners, throttle body, valves, spark plug tips, and the tops of the pistons all need extra lubrication. Some oil even runs back down into the oil pan. It's the ultimate green energy concept of recycling
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:28 AM   #21
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I'm sure the cans work but the cans themselves might have issues. Driving it hard when you first get the car helps a great deal with braking the engine in. Agree with Dave on alot of what he says. And really it's become more a camaro 5 push product. Remember who runs the site guys lol. VENDORS ?!?!?!
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:40 AM   #22
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Catch cans are absolutely not needed. The oil is sucked back into the engine because the intake runners, throttle body, valves, spark plug tips, and the tops of the pistons all need extra lubrication. Some oil even runs back down into the oil pan. It's the ultimate green energy concept of recycling
Interesting perhaps read this.. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68744

A friend of mine didnt have a catch can and I did. When he took his manifold off it was not clean. Took off my manifold and it was very clean. We both had V6 Camaros at the time. I still do he does not. As far as V8's since the V8 does not use direct injection then there are ways of cleaning the engine other than a catch can.

I would just rather empty a can than go through the seafoam. Just easier I do my oil change and empty the can not so hard.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:04 AM   #23
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Interesting perhaps read this.. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68744

A friend of mine didnt have a catch can and I did. When he took his manifold off it was not clean. Took off my manifold and it was very clean. We both had V6 Camaros at the time. I still do he does not. As far as V8's since the V8 does not use direct injection then there are ways of cleaning the engine other than a catch can.

I would just rather empty a can than go through the seafoam. Just easier I do my oil change and empty the can not so hard.
Sorry, I was trying to be sarcastic. I totally believe in catch cans.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:20 AM   #24
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Yeah, go ask the VW dealerships (Was it VW or Audi?) that are having to strip heads down so they can hand-clean the oil sludge off of the intake valves how important a catch can is.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:34 AM   #25
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so lets see if i got this right. the catch can is good for people that drive the car like they stole something right? if i drive my car normal i should not worrie about it?
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:50 AM   #26
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I don't have one and don't plan to buy one. If it was that important GM would have designed one into the car. The only people that will try to convince you that it's needed are the ones that are making the catch cans.

I have talked to a couple guys that bought the catch can, they both have V8's. One said he hasn't seen a drop of anything in his catch can, the other said he had a slight film of oil inside of the can. To costly and not necessary in my opinion.

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Old 12-11-2012, 09:57 AM   #27
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Absolutely needed on the V6, V8 not so much but can't hurt.

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Old 12-11-2012, 10:04 AM   #28
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I don't have one and don't plan to buy one. If it was that important GM would have designed one into the car. The only people that will try to convince you that it's needed are the ones that are making the catch cans.

I have talked to a couple guys that bought the catch can, they both have V8's. One said he hasn't seen a drop of anything in his catch can, the other said he had a slight film of oil inside of the can. To costly and not necessary in my opinion.

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I agree. Some have 'seen' benefits from them and some haven't. I can assure you your car will run 100k miles without a moments trouble without one, with proper maintenance granted. Probably further.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:09 AM   #29
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I've been wondering about this for a few weeks now too. My Dad and his friends (huge car guys) basically said the same thing as above, "If it was neccessary, GM would have put them on from the factory.". Why would a car company want their own cars ingesting oil and not do anything to prevent it? A couple weeks back, I even e-mailed one of the vendors on here asking for an Honest to God's truth answer on this topic. To this day...NO RESPONSE. Everybody has their own opinion I suppose. When I installed my intake, I inspected the throttle body and there was NO oil at all. Over Christmas, my Dad and I will be installing a Roto-Fab Intake on his Z. We'll check the throttle body for oil and I'll report if I find anything.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:17 AM   #30
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"If it was neccessary, GM would have put them on from the factory." We'll check the throttle body for oil and I'll report if I find anything.
Why would there be any oil on the throttle body? The PCV hose connects to the intake manifold AFTER the throttle body. Check your intake manifold instead.

And, let's see, are there any Camaros that come stock with a catch can...let's see...oh yes, there are.

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Old 12-11-2012, 10:19 AM   #31
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While i don't run one. They do have benefits. GM doesn't put one on however that is why during maintenance schedules they suggest their TB cleaning service.

Are they snake oil? No they aren't. Is it NEEDED? No they aren't. The vast majority will sell or trade in the car WAY before any slight issue might ever be seen. The LS3 & LLT have been around for a long time now without an influx of issues from not running a can.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:21 AM   #32
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Why would there be any oil on the throttle body? The PCV hose connects to the intake manifold AFTER the throttle body. Check your intake manifold instead.

And, let's see, are there any Camaros that come stock with a catch can...let's see...oh yes, there are.

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From running over oiled intake filters

And from having oil in the manifold.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:22 AM   #33
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The V6 is one of the most technologically advanced engines Chevy has ever built, it's really a marvel.
Direct injection puts the fuel injectors right in the cylinder itself giving unbelievably fine control over fuel delivery.
The V8 is still "old" technology injecting fuel into the airstream that feeds the cylinder. Much less control, but still effective....
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:54 AM   #34
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Read these threads.....and yes, those not realizing what oil ingestion does can run their car for years and not be aware of the gradual degradation. And no, GM/Ford?Chrusler, etc. probably never will add the expense and another service procedure but the super cars (Maserati, Ferrari, etc.) as well as the Copo all have catchcans as it is performance and longevity for the goal.

Tons of real data, industry info, and automotive engineer data to read on the issues. If nothing else, the small cost for a GOOD functioning one....(most let as much through as they trap) the fuel savings alone pays for the can many times over (detonation from ANY oil ingestion no matter what type fuel delivery causes detonation and the knock sensors command the PCM to pull timing, thus less power is produced and less fuel economy) much less the long term effects. I have been buiulding and rebuilding race & performance engines as well as passenger cars for over 38 years.....if you saw the insides like I and many others do, you would never question the need to separate the oil before it is ingested.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216311

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68744
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