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Old 02-20-2013, 10:10 PM   #176
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Ah I see. Well I like the elite emptying system more so I guess I'm going with that.
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:57 PM   #177
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I don't understand how unscrewing the bottom part of a fairly tall can, then lowering it out of the way without spilling it on the way to your oil drain dump is more convenient than placing a pan underneath the drain tube of an RX can and opening the valve until it stops running out. I just walked out of the way for a few minutes, came back back and closed it up, wiped off the tube and went on with an oil change. I had (I now have a system supplied with my S/C system, but I'm switching back to a 2-valve RX can) the drain tube routed straight down and through a hole in a cross member so it stayed put. Cut it to the perfect length, and no one knows it's there but you.

Again, both of these products do an excellent job and they're the only ones worth buying.

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Mount it high in the engine bay and don't let it get very full.

How do you properly position your drain pan with the RX?
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:25 AM   #178
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I'd rather mount it low, reason being, vapors from the crankcase flow into it, laden with oil. There they cool and the oil drops out of suspension and the cleaner air gets inhaled into the intake manifold. I just want it to be more work for anything that might escape the catch can to make it into the intake. Just my cheap theory.

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Old 02-21-2013, 02:32 AM   #179
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How do you properly position your drain pan with the RX?
I described this earlier. There's a long length of drain line supplied with the can. After mounting the can, you route the tube to where it is really easy to spot and catch when draining...it's straight down(!) so you just zip-tie the line in place and trim off the excess. It's the same as draining your engine oil (the process, anyway), but you can use a far smaller container.

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Old 02-21-2013, 06:14 AM   #180
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I had RX on my L99 worked great draining it was ok, on LS3 decided to check out other product just for the heck of it and went with Elite Can. Much easier to drain and see how much it is catching.
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:18 PM   #181
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Anyone can do the testing of any can to see for themselves what cans catch all, or nearly all the oil....simply install a clear glass inline fuel filter between any can and the intake manifold and see in short order how saturated it gets even with some many THINK are good.

We test all we can, and then cut them apart. Go back a few pages and see the results in detail with pictures.

The ones (and again, test for yourself) that are tops are in this order:

RX catches all visable oil
Saiku Micchi Catches 90-95%
AMW & Elite (tied) catch 90-95% on NA applications.

Any of these are great cans we endorse (even though compete directly against us, they are great)


Thats really it unless you get down into the 75-80% for a few that work good, to most any other lets as much or more through than they catch...defeating the purpose for a can period.
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:40 PM   #182
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Hey Tracy, been thinking about getting a Rx can for my '12 civic. (little ways from purchasing it) But have you installed a CC on a new civic? Thanks
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Old 02-23-2013, 04:21 PM   #183
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How can I install one on my 2012 2lt?
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Old 02-23-2013, 05:45 PM   #184
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How can I install one on my 2012 2lt?
Oh My, Please do a search. There is a billion threads on catch cans.
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:26 AM   #185
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Oh My, Please do a search. There is a billion threads on catch cans.
Sorry, I just wanted to know if it is easy to implement or I have to take it to an expert to do it for me
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:34 AM   #186
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Mohamed, no worries. It takes maybe ten minutes to install. Just about anyone can do it.

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Old 02-24-2013, 04:10 PM   #187
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Hey Tracy, been thinking about getting a Rx can for my '12 civic. (little ways from purchasing it) But have you installed a CC on a new civic? Thanks
I don't have a Civic but last December I stopped by Tracy's shop and had an RX Catch Can installed on my Jeep Liberty Turbo Diesel!

I bet he can do it
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Old 02-24-2013, 07:16 PM   #188
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Almost all the searches I do state V6 in the description page, so Im going with there is almost no need for this on a V8 non charged correct?

There were a couple threads that implied it, but nothing concrete....
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:00 PM   #189
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I don't have a Civic but last December I stopped by Tracy's shop and had an RX Catch Can installed on my Jeep Liberty Turbo Diesel!

I bet he can do it
Thats cool!...I know he can too, been too his shop as well and its really neat

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Almost all the searches I do state V6 in the description page, so Im going with there is almost no need for this on a V8 non charged correct?

There were a couple threads that implied it, but nothing concrete....
Are you asking if theres a need for it on V8's? Of course, the V6 i've read is one of the worst at ingesting oil.... the V8 still ingests oil but i guess not as badly.

I installed a Rx can on my dad's V8 Zo6 and i always catch a good amount of oil.

Another example is that my '01 Acura Mdx needed some work done because i needed a brand new throttle position sensor (because it was dirty and etc.) and a good fuel injector cleaning because it wouldnt start. After some BG cleaner it feels new again


Anyways i would definitely recommend one
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I'll add my 2 cents for catch cans. I installed my Moroso air/oil separator (catch can) 7 days ago. I checked the can for the first time today and found about 1 tablespoon of oil inside. My car is a daily driver and I drove about 75 miles in the past 7 days. I only gave the car 1 good WOT run too.
I could be imagining this but it seems like the engine runs smoother now too.
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Old 02-25-2013, 12:24 PM   #191
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I'll add my 2 cents for catch cans. I installed my Moroso air/oil separator (catch can) 7 days ago. I checked the can for the first time today and found about 1 tablespoon of oil inside. My car is a daily driver and I drove about 75 miles in the past 7 days. I only gave the car 1 good WOT run too.
I could be imagining this but it seems like the engine runs smoother now too.

Oil ingestion causes detonation so yes, reducing it will cause smoother runing.

But you have a can that only catches a portion of the oil....there are pictures posted here with the test results and why....but do your self a favor, at any autoparts store pick up (app $10) a clear glass inline fuel filter and install it between the moroso can and the intake manifold and in a 100-200 miles it will be full and saturated with the oil getting past that can due to the design. There is no designated inlet or outlet, and unscrew it and remove the perforated disc holding in the media......if you take a wet wash cloth and hold it to you mouth and suck on it, you suck water out of it....same thing is happening with that can....thats how it allows so much to pull right through. It is better than no can, but any of the better cans in the tests that catch nearly all are less cost and function so much better.

But dont take my word for it, please try this simple test for yourself. Remember, we tested a beer can w/2 fittings in it as a loke and it caught as much oil as most on the market.

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Oil ingestion causes detonation so yes, reducing it will cause smoother runing.

But you have a can that only catches a portion of the oil....there are pictures posted here with the test results and why....but do your self a favor, at any autoparts store pick up (app $10) a clear glass inline fuel filter and install it between the moroso can and the intake manifold and in a 100-200 miles it will be full and saturated with the oil getting past that can due to the design. There is no designated inlet or outlet, and unscrew it and remove the perforated disc holding in the media......if you take a wet wash cloth and hold it to you mouth and suck on it, you suck water out of it....same thing is happening with that can....thats how it allows so much to pull right through. It is better than no can, but any of the better cans in the tests that catch nearly all are less cost and function so much better.

But dont take my word for it, please try this simple test for yourself. Remember, we tested a beer can w/2 fittings in it as a loke and it caught as much oil as most on the market.


I don't have the resources to test multiple ones, but you are saying the cheap ones do basically as good as the expensive ones? I realize there may be a measurable difference, but is it enough to matter? If I decide to do it, and I haven't decided yet, a $30 can will do pretty much as good as a $200 can correct?
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Depends on which can. Go to page 3-4 in this thread and look at all the pictures of the different cans cut apart. I was refering to the one Limacharlie installed......it's covered in detail here. Lets a ton of oil through.

The only ones realing trapping all, or almost all are in this order:

RX
Saiku Micchi
Elite & AMW tied

are the best by far, then a few others come in allowing only 20-25% of the oil through.
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Oil ingestion causes detonation so yes, reducing it will cause smoother runing.

But you have a can that only catches a portion of the oil....there are pictures posted here with the test results and why....but do your self a favor, at any autoparts store pick up (app $10) a clear glass inline fuel filter and install it between the moroso can and the intake manifold and in a 100-200 miles it will be full and saturated with the oil getting past that can due to the design. There is no designated inlet or outlet, and unscrew it and remove the perforated disc holding in the media......if you take a wet wash cloth and hold it to you mouth and suck on it, you suck water out of it....same thing is happening with that can....thats how it allows so much to pull right through. It is better than no can, but any of the better cans in the tests that catch nearly all are less cost and function so much better.

But dont take my word for it, please try this simple test for yourself. Remember, we tested a beer can w/2 fittings in it as a loke and it caught as much oil as most on the market.

I did some research on the web, camaro5, etc. and ultimately decided on the Moroso can. I know this is a lame reason but I chose the Moroso mainly because I thought it looked the best and had the best mounting hardware. It just looks the most professional. I've seen your posts/threads regarding catch can comparisons and the RX seems to be the best functioning can (based on your info). However, there seems to be a bias towards the RX on this site. Other sites and forums seem to favor other cans (Moroso is among them).
It is very possible the Moroso is not catching ALL the oil before it goes back into the intake. Some oil can't be bad though. If no oil is supposed to go into the intake, why would GM (and other companies) install a simple 5" tube/fixed orifice going from the crankcase to the intake from the factory? The LS7, LSA, and LS9 have a similar setup too.
You obviously know more info about catch cans/PCV stuff and I'm not doubting the RX can performance. I don't think my perspective is too far off though....
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It is very possible the Moroso is not catching ALL the oil before it goes back into the intake. Some oil can't be bad though.
Oh wow. Just...wow.

No. And no again.

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You want NO oil at all in the intake aircharge...it is not intentional that all new cars and light trucks have this issue.
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Old 02-27-2013, 10:25 AM   #198
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I am a soon to be ZL1 owner. I looked at the websites for both Elite and RX catch cans and I don't see anything directing towards a ZL1. I see Camaro and ls3 and l99 but nothing for lsa or zl1. Could use some help since considering a catch can as long as it doesn't void the warranty.
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Leviser, you'll need a two-port can if you go with RX. It has one input port and two output, so it actually has three fittings on the top of the can.

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The ZL1 version is out for the RX can and has its own bracket. If your going to road track it the dual valve is an option.

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