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Old 12-14-2012, 05:25 PM   #18
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Ok call me stupid, but what the hell do they do for the car?
Additional -1.8 degrees of camber
Indexed for Easy and Repeatable Adjustment
Improve Steering Angle Inclination (SAI)
Complete Replacement for the OEM Strut Mount and Bearing
Banded Thrust Bearing for Smooth Steering
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Fit ALL Brands of 5th Gen Coilovers

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Old 12-14-2012, 06:39 PM   #19
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I think we covered the bars in the last post. We have written a book about the 5th Gen. It is available here on C5. It isn't finished. It will be years before it is finished. It is updated as we move forward.

Pedders 2010 Chevrolet Camaro Suspension Evaluation

Foundational 5th Gen Required Upgrades

Lowering Coils and Coilovers

Trouble Free, OEM Quiet V6 Lowering

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I'm sold. Will be placing my order soon. Thanks for the information!
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Old 12-14-2012, 06:51 PM   #20
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Welcome to the PEDDERS NATION.
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:00 PM   #21
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Thanks! Btw do your upgraded camber plates work with the stock ZL1 set up, plug and play?
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:03 PM   #22
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Thanks! Btw do your upgraded camber plates work with the stock ZL1 set up, plug and play?
They only work with coilovers. Do you plan to track your ZL1?
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:54 PM   #23
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They only work with coilovers. Do you plan to track your ZL1?
Yes, weekend track car. Street car during the week... Coilovers are a fairly significant investment right? With coilovers do you still keep PTM and everything else the same?
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:19 PM   #24
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Yes, weekend track car. Street car during the week... Coilovers are a fairly significant investment right? With coilovers do you still keep PTM and everything else the same?
The best track package for a ZL1 IMO
  • Z Bar Upgrade
  • EP6577 Steel Jacketed Radius Arm Bushes
  • EP1201HD Sub-Frame Bushes
  • EP7565Z Steel Jacketed Urethane Trailing Arm Bushes (both ends of the arm)
  • Pedders Z Spec Lowering Coils
  • Pedders Road Course Alignment Specs
  • Dedicated Square Track Wheel and Tire Package
This maintains 100% functionality of the MRC, PTM and SC. Ride quality remains excellent. Setup like this you ZL1 will feel as improved as moving from an SS to a ZL1. Maybe that is a bit of overstatement, but it is hard to describe how much better it will be.
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...if I were to upgrade my car right now...first thing I would do is to send my ride to Pedders for the full Monty....
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Old 12-16-2012, 08:35 AM   #26
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Pete, What are the Pedders Road Course Alignment specs? Thanks!
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:44 AM   #27
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The best track package for a ZL1 IMO
  • Z Bar Upgrade
  • EP6577 Steel Jacketed Radius Arm Bushes
  • EP1201HD Sub-Frame Bushes
  • EP7565Z Steel Jacketed Urethane Trailing Arm Bushes (both ends of the arm)
  • Pedders Z Spec Lowering Coils
  • Pedders Road Course Alignment Specs
  • Dedicated Square Track Wheel and Tire Package
This maintains 100% functionality of the MRC, PTM and SC. Ride quality remains excellent. Setup like this you ZL1 will feel as improved as moving from an SS to a ZL1. Maybe that is a bit of overstatement, but it is hard to describe how much better it will be.
Do you sell all these upgrades as a ZL1 Track/Street package?
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Old 12-16-2012, 01:59 PM   #28
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Thanks for the great info. Can you upgrade in stages, like the bars and some of the other components (would like to hold off for now on the coils and wheel and tire package). And if so, what would you recommend starting with? Or does it really only make sense to do the complete package as a total system all at once?
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:06 PM   #29
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Pete, What are the Pedders Road Course Alignment specs? Thanks!
I'll get that posted here later in the day.

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Do you sell all these upgrades as a ZL1 Track/Street package?
We do now. I'll have a turkey package up Monday.

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Thanks for the great info. Can you upgrade in stages, like the bars and some of the other components (would like to hold off for now on the coils and wheel and tire package). And if so, what would you recommend starting with? Or does it really only make sense to do the complete package as a total system all at once?
you can do them in stages. First foundational bushes. Next bars. Coils. Wheels and tires.
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Old 12-16-2012, 07:15 PM   #30
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Pete,

I never should have bought this car as you make it difficult not to spend my money on all this goodies you offer.

I am looking forward for the new package. On the wheels and tires I assume your suggestion below would be valid also for the Z. Although I assume the track widths differ.

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There is more to our choice of wheels and tires. Talk to any engineer with race experience and from a sheet of paper they can tell you why a Camaro in OEM trim suffers from significant understeer. The tale of the tape tells the story.

Front Track 63.7"
Rear Track 64.1'
Front Wheel 20 x 8
Rear Wheel 20 x 9
Front Tire P245/45ZR20
Rear Tire P275/40 ZR20
Weight Balance 52/48
Front Sway Bar Diameter 24mm
Rear Sway Bar Diameter 23mm

The understeer is built into the vehicle from the ground up. Pedders felt it necessary to bring out the true potential of the ZETA II Camaro to alter the car from the ground up.

Front Track 65.7"
Rear Track 64.6'
Front Wheel 19 x 10.5
Rear Wheel 19 x 10.5
Front Tire 305/30/19
Rear Tire 305/30/19
Weight Balance 52/48
Front Sway Bar Diameter 27mm
Rear Sway Bar Diameter 32mm

When the dimensional changes are combined with upgraded suspension components the Camaro become a virtual Supercar. .
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:04 PM   #31
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Pete,

I never should have bought this car as you make it difficult not to spend my money on all this goodies you offer.

I am looking forward for the new package. On the wheels and tires I assume your suggestion below would be valid also for the Z. Although I assume the track widths differ.
Absolutely.
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:10 PM   #32
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Has anyone bought and installed these....I am about to buy them and want to know their thoughts.
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Old 10-13-2013, 07:27 AM   #34
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