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Old 06-09-2009, 12:27 PM   #1
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Best way to launch with automatic transmission?

Ok, I know how to launch the hell out of my 1993 A4 Z28. But I cannot get a good launch with the A6 with traction control on or off. Has anyone had the chance to find out the best setting and RPMs for launcing the A6? I am racing my buddy in his Challenger R/T tomorrow night at the track and I will let the Camaro community down big time if I can't figure this out.
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Old 06-09-2009, 02:19 PM   #2
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Left foot on brake, right foot floor the gas and slowly left off the brake.
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That's what I've been doing but it launches so slow. I think I need to be at 2500 rmps or more with the brake applied.

Are you launching with TC and stabilitrack off?
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Old 06-10-2009, 07:37 AM   #4
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I finally figured it out. Just had to get the TC off and rev to 2,500 rpms. The traction control and stbiltrack were confusing me and only let me rev to just over 1,000rpms.
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Old 06-10-2009, 08:02 PM   #5
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All Automatics come with what is called TORQUE MANAGMENT !!!!!!! it bogs down our A6's from out of the hole and basically makes us feel we bought a lemon. This new Camaro has it very badly and so does the Vette ( basically every car with the A6 automatic has it very bad ) Get your car tuned that turns it off and watch this car screamed.

My brother did this with his Vette and I just did this with my Camaro and WOW

This new Camaro is fast but a dog with a board in its ass from the factory.
Get it tuned and watch the first gear 4.03 show you how it screams out of the hole.


best way to launch it after a tune....... drop it back into M the car does not start in 2nd it starts in 1st after a tune. Turn on the traction control or it will spin tires like crazy and mash on the pedal and hold on lol TRUST ME.
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Old 06-11-2009, 06:29 AM   #6
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All Automatics come with what is called TORQUE MANAGMENT !!!!!!! it bogs down our A6's from out of the hole and basically makes us feel we bought a lemon. This new Camaro has it very badly and so does the Vette ( basically every car with the A6 automatic has it very bad ) Get your car tuned that turns it off and watch this car screamed.

My brother did this with his Vette and I just did this with my Camaro and WOW

This new Camaro is fast but a dog with a board in its ass from the factory.
Get it tuned and watch the first gear 4.03 show you how it screams out of the hole.


best way to launch it after a tune....... drop it back into M the car does not start in 2nd it starts in 1st after a tune. Turn on the traction control or it will spin tires like crazy and mash on the pedal and hold on lol TRUST ME.

LOL at dog with a board in its ass from the factory! Don't hear that one around these parts.
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Old 06-11-2009, 06:54 AM   #7
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All Automatics come with what is called TORQUE MANAGMENT !!!!!!! it bogs down our A6's from out of the hole and basically makes us feel we bought a lemon. This new Camaro has it very badly and so does the Vette ( basically every car with the A6 automatic has it very bad ) Get your car tuned that turns it off and watch this car screamed.

My brother did this with his Vette and I just did this with my Camaro and WOW

This new Camaro is fast but a dog with a board in its ass from the factory.
Get it tuned and watch the first gear 4.03 show you how it screams out of the hole.


best way to launch it after a tune....... drop it back into M the car does not start in 2nd it starts in 1st after a tune. Turn on the traction control or it will spin tires like crazy and mash on the pedal and hold on lol TRUST ME.
This is great news! By the way, are you able to chirp 2nd, or even 3rd?
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Old 06-11-2009, 07:02 AM   #8
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The car starts in 1rst gear in S-mode, you don't have to be in M-mode. I ran at the track last night and the best 60' time I had was 2.147. It was so hot and humid though, real nasty last night. My best run was 13.8 but I walked by friend's Challenger R/T every run. There was a Charger SRT8 with Magnaflo's running 13.9s.

I plan on getting the car tuned soon, but first I'd like to know if I'm getting everything out of it now.

What are the stock shift points in s-mode when WOT? Are the optimal or will I get a little more in m-mode but I'm afraid of hitting the rev limiter. Also, my car shifts into 4th before the end of the 1/4, is this normal?
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Old 06-11-2009, 07:18 AM   #9
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Glad you repressented well & showed up the moded SRT that is great news & is showing the Camaro's bite
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Old 06-12-2009, 02:00 PM   #10
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All Automatics come with what is called TORQUE MANAGMENT !!!!!!! it bogs down our A6's from out of the hole and basically makes us feel we bought a lemon. This new Camaro has it very badly and so does the Vette ( basically every car with the A6 automatic has it very bad ) Get your car tuned that turns it off and watch this car screamed.

My brother did this with his Vette and I just did this with my Camaro and WOW

This new Camaro is fast but a dog with a board in its ass from the factory.
Get it tuned and watch the first gear 4.03 show you how it screams out of the hole.


best way to launch it after a tune....... drop it back into M the car does not start in 2nd it starts in 1st after a tune. Turn on the traction control or it will spin tires like crazy and mash on the pedal and hold on lol TRUST ME.
Everyone is talking about a tune, how do i get a "tune"
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Old 06-14-2009, 12:14 AM   #11
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The car starts in 1rst gear in S-mode, you don't have to be in M-mode. I ran at the track last night and the best 60' time I had was 2.147. It was so hot and humid though, real nasty last night. My best run was 13.8 but I walked by friend's Challenger R/T every run. There was a Charger SRT8 with Magnaflo's running 13.9s.

I plan on getting the car tuned soon, but first I'd like to know if I'm getting everything out of it now.

What are the stock shift points in s-mode when WOT? Are the optimal or will I get a little more in m-mode but I'm afraid of hitting the rev limiter. Also, my car shifts into 4th before the end of the 1/4, is this normal?
What was your trap speed?
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Old 06-14-2009, 10:29 AM   #12
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race 1: 2.259 [60'] 14.001 [1/4] 102.60 [mph]
race 2: 2.177 [60'] 14.015 [1/4] 102.17 [mph]
race 3: 2.200 [60'] 13.860 [1/4] 102.66 [mph]


The 60' times and mph are nearly identical so I don't know why I was quicker in race 3.
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Old 06-18-2009, 01:02 PM   #13
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race 1: 2.259 [60'] 14.001 [1/4] 102.60 [mph]
race 2: 2.177 [60'] 14.015 [1/4] 102.17 [mph]
race 3: 2.200 [60'] 13.860 [1/4] 102.66 [mph]


The 60' times and mph are nearly identical so I don't know why I was quicker in race 3.
What was the temperature difference?
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I have been playing with this and with some good advice from Scott@Bjorn3D.

Launch control is great in competitive mode if you account for the lag time. When you let off the brake - it actually takes a half a second to launch. However, if you want more control - push and hold the tcs button for about 6 seconds, it disables traction control and stabilitrak and you can do whatever you want - burn outs, run it up on the torque converter for launch, etc. This is what I will be doing as I don't like the delay in the launch control.
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I have been playing with this and with some good advice from Scott@Bjorn3D.

Launch control is great in competitive mode if you account for the lag time. When you let off the brake - it actually takes a half a second to launch. However, if you want more control - push and hold the tcs button for about 6 seconds, it disables traction control and stabilitrak and you can do whatever you want - burn outs, run it up on the torque converter for launch, etc. This is what I will be doing as I don't like the delay in the launch control.
There is no launch control on the automatic, only on the LS3.
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There is no launch control on the automatic, only on the LS3.
In competitive mode, you floor it while foot on break, brings it up to 1500 RPM on the torque converter - it's like launch control, let off the brake and it takes off like a bat out of hell
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Will the torque management react the same in the manual paddle shift mode? I heard that it disable the AFM so does it also help with the torque??
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Is it better to have both traction and stabiltrack off or just traction of?. I am getting 1.8 60' time w/Drag radials just traction off. Also does the car throw timing if you power brake to long?
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I've been shutting of both the stabilitrak and the TC off and I have the car is sport mode. I keeps the rpm's at 1100 or so. Doing it this way i get 1.60 60' every single time. A bad 60' for my car is 1.65. And I do have 18" drag radials. I just warm up the tires until I see a wisp of spoke and drive out of the burnout until it hooks and chirps.
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In competitive mode, you floor it while foot on break, brings it up to 1500 RPM on the torque converter - it's like launch control, let off the brake and it takes off like a bat out of hell
This is the first I've heard of this feature for the L99. My understanding is that LS3 and L99 cars both have Stabilitrak Competitive Mode, but ONLY LS3's have Launch Control.

Can anyone confirm this? Has anyone tried it? I have an L99 and would be thrilled if this were true.

Anyone? Bueller...?

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Left foot on brake, right foot floor the gas and slowly left off the brake.
I exactly do the same and it works perfectly for me too, I wonder why it doesn't work for others?

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car in neutral.... floor the gas, slam shifter into low gear. LOL

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All I do is brake torque to around 1000 rpms. Then I roll into the gas to launch. I consistantly get 1.90 - 1.97 sec 60' times on the stock tires.

I use D with TC off (everything else on).
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All I do is brake torque to around 1000 rpms. Then I roll into the gas to launch. I consistantly get 1.90 - 1.97 sec 60' times on the stock tires.

I use D with TC off (everything else on).
I guess it takes practice to roll into the gas. I always seem to put it on the floor like I was squashing a bug!
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