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Old 12-17-2012, 08:11 PM   #51
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It's insane a I did it for 6 month total with LT and then turbo before just giving up and doing a dot visual because monitors would not complete.


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Old 12-17-2012, 10:33 PM   #52
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I'm going to have to use my buddy's address that lives a few miles from me as his county doesn't require inspection since they live far out from the city. Only way I see getting around this without having a heart attack come April for me.
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:19 AM   #53
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I have shorty headers and a tune and have never had this prob. It just don't make sense that some can pass and some can't.
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:25 AM   #54
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WOT seems to think I need to correct the underlying o2 sensor issue FIRST...then tune and everything should be fine...only problem is...i thought the tune turns off the rear o2 sensors...so we are waiting to hear from vince on that one

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just as another stick to the fire...chevy 3 has the JBA headers..which...besides being bolt on and a darker color...are virtually identical to the Doug Thorley Headers i have (polished and weld on)

i have a sneaking suspicion that the install process may have either cooked the circuit or something...(the dealer did repair a broken pin in the o2 sensor connector)

regardless...my point is...chevy 3 passes inspection and he has the Trifecta tune as well...now he does get a CEL from time to time... but it clears on its own

so it sounds to me...like we have a case to make to Trifecta for getting some better computer programming for our cars...

im likely going to revert back to the stock tune and save up some money over the winter...come spring ill have the cause of the light checked...fixed...and go from there
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:53 AM   #55
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I guess the question is have you gotten through the emission since the tune ? And have your readiness test been completed ? I guess I just want to know if an LLT tune won't let us get these test completed or not.

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Old 12-19-2012, 07:24 AM   #56
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well i heard back from Vince finally....he said that if the exhaust has been modded and youre not passing emissions tests, then it'll need to be restored back to stock. This is regardless of whether the car is tuned or not.

so...with that said...it would appear im going to revert back to the stock program and see if i can pass that way...if it passes without the tune...but keeping my headers...then ive got evidence that proves Vince wrong...however...if the monitors still do not correct themselves....it looks like ill be going back to the stock manifolds as well..

question...if i remove the headers...will i need a re-tune or are those just for additions and not subtractions?
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:34 AM   #57
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Interesting that he said that. I had the same issue as you. I just drove the car around and all the monitors finally were set and I passed.

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Old 12-19-2012, 07:37 AM   #58
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another question...would a fried circuit for the o2 sensors maybe cause the monitors to not set?
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:59 AM   #59
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Well, I heard from Arno at IPF this morning and he is checking my tune. He thinks the readiness test may have been turned off of my tune and never turned back on. He is going to update if this is the issue. I don't have headers so the exhaust issue doesn't apply. I have the stock cats and just a solo cat back system on my car.
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do you have any Ready monitors?

if you do...i highly doubt the test was turned off lol
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:57 AM   #61
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If I look at the live data from the OBD the O2S_cmp is set. If I run the check on the readiness tests it is clear ??? This is why he thinks maybe where the readiness stores data vs the live data is stored is turned off. We'll see !
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:03 AM   #62
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:49 PM   #63
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WOW....i have the trifecta tune and it passed the first time....i will be needing a new inspection soon...i thought trifecta costumed tune the cars to your specific mods....mine was....my lower o2's were turned off i have mbrp cat backs and jba headers...hummm just wondering if it will pass 2nd time around...i cant be turning the tune back and forth to stock ...what a pain...my tuner guy is in Austin and im in dallas....and trifecta tuners in DALLAS???
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:26 PM   #64
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WOW....i have the trifecta tune and it passed the first time....i will be needing a new inspection soon...i thought trifecta costumed tune the cars to your specific mods....mine was....my lower o2's were turned off i have mbrp cat backs and jba headers...hummm just wondering if it will pass 2nd time around...i cant be turning the tune back and forth to stock ...what a pain...my tuner guy is in Austin and im in dallas....and trifecta tuners in DALLAS???
did yours finally pass 2010?? love your color BTW..i wanted that
I'm due for my 2nd go around if Feb, 1st time around no problems.
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Old 12-20-2012, 07:38 AM   #65
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thanks crush...shes a rare one!

i havent gone back yet...im waiting to get the iOBD2 for my iPhone so i can tell when the monitors are ready and save me the hassle of driving back and forth to the dealer
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In Massachusetts on your inspection after 1 year they only run a safety check they do not do the emissions check til the 2 year inspection. They do this to allow more than enough time for your readiness tests to complete. I had my car tested yesterday and it would pass emissions test, but if I were to go in to get the car tested today they would reject it because the readiness tests are not complete. I know that the tuning can mask these flag never letting them get set. I am having the tuners check mine to make sure they are not turned off.
I can pass the emissions test with the SC if I could just get these test to be completed. Hopefully I'll have an answer today.
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Old 12-22-2012, 07:42 AM   #68
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well i heard back from Vince finally....he said that if the exhaust has been modded and youre not passing emissions tests, then it'll need to be restored back to stock. This is regardless of whether the car is tuned or not.

so...with that said...it would appear im going to revert back to the stock program and see if i can pass that way...if it passes without the tune...but keeping my headers...then ive got evidence that proves Vince wrong...however...if the monitors still do not correct themselves....it looks like ill be going back to the stock manifolds as well..

question...if i remove the headers...will i need a re-tune or are those just for additions and not subtractions?
If I was to reset my tune back to stock, I would end up getting a check engine light with an o2 sensor code wouldnt I? That was the reason of me getting Trifecta was to get rid of the CEL after putting on my longtubes.....and I am still having a CEL but its for a P0300 and P0305 which is cylinder 5 misfire. I am going to replace the injector to see if this fixes the problem. Ive always had misfire codes, but assumed it was because of the rough cold start or maybe something in the tune. I would always clear the codes, but when I would go down to try and get the car inspected, I would still have monitors say NOT READY
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Just a thought, if they are able to mask out the codes why couldn't they just set the readiness test and be done with it. Failures would still be flagged but the readiness would alway be set.
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From what I know I fried o2 circuit should throw a code.
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Then again the tune could mask it ?
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:10 PM   #73
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well the snow came...guess the diagnostics will have to wait until spring
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Just got a tweak to my tune for the readiness codes to be allowed to run. Since most states don't use these for emissions or any other checks they were left clear. Once again the guys at IPF came through for me in a pinch!
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thus why i'm hesitant to get my shorty headers i keep hearing way to many horror stories.
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