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Old 12-19-2012, 08:53 PM   #1
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GT500 fastest Timeslip vrs ZL1 fastest timeslip

ok, I am REAL tired of hearing how awesome that car is when every experience I have had with it, including the one where i tried to go buy it but could not get passed the crap MANUAL seats (they look nice, but suck to sit in, and are ONLY available in manual no power) the second rate suspension and Brakes and the few run ins I have had with them in my caddy say otherwise.

I decided to get on THE mustang forum (its actually a pretty neat site) and pull there fastest timeslips and post it with ours and show you how they compare.

2013 gt500 timeslips with mods, copy/paste
Evolution..................1.50................... ........ ....6.46..........................110.35.......... .................9.95............................. 142.36...................... (M)....................... CAI, TB, HD, T, LP, GR, DR
dustin88lx..................1.57.................. .............6.67..........................108.46. .........................10.21.................... ........140.67......................(M)........... .............CAI, TB, LP, T, DR, GR, XP,N100
dustin88lx.................1.51................... .............6.70..........................105.49. ..........................10.37................... ........135.22.......................(M).......... .............. CAI, TB, LP, T, DR, GR, XP
Njtony.......................1.80................. ..............7.35...........................99.17 ............................11.25................. .........127.91.......................(S)
Snorman....................1.93................... ............7.60...........................97.86.. .........................11.57.................... .......124.34.......................(S)
V8mazda...................1.92.................... ...........7.61...........................97.92... ........................11.61..................... .......124.93......................(S)
tuffluvcapo................2.05................... ............7.72...........................97.94.. .........................11.68.................... ........125.50......................(M)........... ..............CAI, T
davidbuscher.............2.02..................... ...........7.74...........................96.98... ........................11.69..................... .......126.59......................(S)
jtfx6552....................1.98.................. ..............7.71..........................96.17. ..........................11.71................... .........123.84......................(S)
Nickoli.......................2.18................ ................7.90.........................97.43 ...........................11.87.................. ..........124.69......................(S)
flyby763....................2.01.................. .............7.90...........................97.22. ..........................12.01................... .........121.01......................(S)
Nix5o.........................2.02................ ...............7.97..........................91.26 ............................12.02................. ...........121.23.....................(S)
Slowponycar...............2.08.................... ...........7.99..........................95.77.... .......................TBD........................ ......TBD..........................(S)
Rwboring....................2.24.................. .............8.03..........................90.88.. .........................12.11.................... ........119.11......................(M)........... .............RD
Devious Snake............2.36............................. ...8.39..........................92.77............ ...............12.51............................12 1.54.......................(S)



the zl1 fastest stock motor time list Wont let me copy paste (kinda dumb)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...3XzAyY2c#gid=0

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...5TzVtX1E#gid=0

if you look, the zl1 has actually went faster than the gt500 has when done by the best with nothing held back...

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Old 12-19-2012, 08:54 PM   #2
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Interested to hear thoughts - but this belongs in the vs section.

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Old 12-19-2012, 08:55 PM   #3
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this is a ZL1 thread, i think it belongs right here
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:56 PM   #4
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:57 PM   #5
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I appreciate your intentions...but the first word in the title is "GT500"...and it says "vrs"....I've moved this to it's appropriate area. You'll find many ZL1 owners frequent that section, so you'll get plenty good responses.

The ZL1 forum is for ZL1-only, or very closely ZL1-related content (like does the 1LE share the same axles...the answer is "no").
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:01 PM   #6
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Uhhh boy, here we go. Honestly, a Modded vs. Modded thread has no meaning what so ever. All that comes down to is the amount of money being thrown into a car.
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:34 PM   #7
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no, if you look the two best shops do everything.. the only diff is the gt500 blew up.. the zl1 got sold and as far as I know is still kicking.
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flyby763....................2.01.................. .............7.90...........................97.22. ..........................12.01................... .........121.01......................(S)
Nix5o.........................2.02................ ...............7.97..........................91.26 ............................12.02................. ...........121.23.....................(S)
Slowponycar...............2.08.................... ...........7.99..........................95.77.... .......................TBD........................ ......TBD..........................(S)
Rwboring....................2.24.................. .............8.03..........................90.88.. .........................12.11.................... ........119.11......................(M)........... .............RD
Devious Snake............2.36............................. ...8.39..........................92.77............ ...............12.51............................12 1.54.......................(S)


these are my favotie becasue that forum is just so quick to bash a car for being slow if the number are off but yet when there numbers are off it was a bad day at the track.

which is true but call it like it is both sides of the fence or call you own car a fat pig with bad traction.

now this time is just strait up awesome
Njtony.......................1.80................. ..............7.35...........................99.17 ............................11.25................. .........127.91.......................(S)

but just like the 11.7 out of a ZL1 this is not the norm.
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no, if you look the two best shops do everything.. the only diff is the gt500 blew up.. the zl1 got sold and as far as I know is still kicking.
Are you serious? The fastest GT500 up there that was modded probably had less than HALF of the money to what the fastest ZL1 had in it. Think about that for a minute...

The only REAL comparison is the fastest STOCK times and the GT500 has the ZL1 SMOKED!!! Of course we already know that the GT500 is superior in a straight line anyway.

Back to the modified cars. ALL BETS are off the table once you modify because it comes down to who has the deepest pockets. The only way to keep it fair, is to do a complete apples to apples comparison by doing the same mods to each car.

Both cars are great and anyone who can afford to own either is lucky if you ask me.
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flyby763....................2.01.................. .............7.90...........................97.22. ..........................12.01................... .........121.01......................(S)
Nix5o.........................2.02................ ...............7.97..........................91.26 ............................12.02................. ...........121.23.....................(S)
Slowponycar...............2.08.................... ...........7.99..........................95.77.... .......................TBD........................ ......TBD..........................(S)
Rwboring....................2.24.................. .............8.03..........................90.88.. .........................12.11.................... ........119.11......................(M)........... .............RD
Devious Snake............2.36............................. ...8.39..........................92.77............ ...............12.51............................12 1.54.......................(S)


these are my favotie becasue that forum is just so quick to bash a car for being slow if the number are off but yet when there numbers are off it was a bad day at the track.

which is true but call it like it is both sides of the fence or call you own car a fat pig with bad traction.

now this time is just strait up awesome
Njtony.......................1.80................. ..............7.35...........................99.17 ............................11.25................. .........127.91.......................(S)

but they are quick to call this thing faster than a Z06 and that is .5 off the fastest Z06 time.
Looking at the trap speeds, I'd guess the GT500 is bogging off the line a little and once it gets going, it's going.

I'm pretty sure I saw a video on youtube of a '13 GT500 running a Z06 and the GT500 pulled it (slowly...) Let me search.
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Looking at the trap speeds, I'd guess the GT500 is bogging off the line a little once it gets going, it's going.

I'm pretty sure I saw a video on youtube of a '13 GT500 running a Z06 and the GT500 pulled it (slowly...) Let me search.
neither of those have anything to do with 1/4 mile. 1/4 mile is ET that is it end of story. I used to smoke cars in bracket nova that traped 10mph higher than me all the time. 1.4 mile is not a roll race.

I have no doubt that once you up to speed the extra 150hp the gt500 has levels the playing field.

I am only pointing out Z06's have run 10.7's stock.

but your are right stock vs stock the GT500 is just a faster car. I just get irritated by all the bias and skewing of numbers they are what they are. if you really look at the best vs best and worst vs worst they are about .5 apart which makes complete sense consider the 80hp 300lb advantage.
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neither of those have anything to do with 1/4 mile. 1/4 mile is ET that is it end of story. I used to smoke cars in bracket nova that traped 10mph higher than me all the time. 1.4 mile is not a roll race.

I have no doubt that once you up to speed the extra 150hp the gt500 has levels the playing field.

I am only pointing out Z06's have run 10.7's stock.
In mineshaft air, with perfect track prep and a driver who know's what he's doing, yes the Z06 will run in the 10's.

Edit: Just saw the added part to your post.

As I've said before, both cars(GT500 and ZL1) are awesome. Both are fast enough to scare the bejesus out of anyone and put a hurting on cars that cost more than they do and anyone who is lucky to own either is fortunate.
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In mineshaft air, with perfect track prep and a driver who know's what he's doing, yes the Z06 will run in the 10's.

Edit: Just saw the added part to your post.

As I've said before, both cars(GT500 and ZL1) are awesome. Both are fast enough to scare the bejesus out of anyone and put a hurting on cars that cost more than they do and anyone who is lucky to own either is fortunate.
look up a guy with the handle ranger he flat kills it. His times were consistalty .5 better than mine. Poeple on the internet like to think it is weather for everthing but good drivers will consistangly get good times. Even in bad weather there time will be better than average drivers.

500+ hp car always have traction issue on street tires. you are always modulating the power.
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Money cant buy what these lists show..

Stock shortblock stock ci motors..

You think money keeps places like evolution and livernois from going faster?

And what the mustang guys DONT SAY are all the suspension mods they have on those cars.. the gt500 IS NOT better in a straight line or a corner. . Ford just gives them a good edge off the showroom floor.. its called boost.. ANY zl with 15 pounds, a cold air and 120mm throttle body ( we cant even get thst big) even completly stock suspension kill it.. ford just came to the fight better prepared. . I say good for them.. zl is still just as capable though.
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Money cant buy what these lists show..

Stock shortblock stock ci motors..

You think money keeps places like evolution and livernois from going faster?

And what the mustang guys DONT SAY are all the suspension mods they have on those cars.. the gt500 IS NOT better in a straight line or a corner. . Ford just gives them a good edge off the showroom floor.. its called boost.. ANY zl with 15 pounds, a cold air and 120mm throttle body ( we cant even get thst big) even completly stock suspension kill it.. ford just came to the fight better prepared. . I say good for them.. zl is still just as capable though.
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O, and as far as money goes, it does now really matter but the fact that a Gt500 with the svt pack and whatever they call there other package prices out to ovet 66, 000... thats a 5, 000 difference from my zl and only thing my csr doesn't have is nav.
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There is actually one missing at the top of the 2013 GT500 list posted here. Lethal Performance gt500 that ran a 9.7 @ 148. Just wait and see what Lethal P. has coming out soon with its 2013 GT500. Should be ummmmmmmm.....interesting to say the least.

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From my googlings the fastest stock 2013 gt500 1/4 is 11.25. (crazy)
I wouldn't start comparing modded cars we all know it's he who has the most money there wins.
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If you have enough money you can make a bathtub fast in the 1/4 mile!
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Lethal used nitrous, thats why its not on the list. A rather large amount I might add.
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Nitrous is my least favorite way to go fast.
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Lethal used nitrous, thats why its not on the list. A rather large amount I might add.
ZL1 had cam and head work, the GT500 was stock block with no internal engine mods. I didn't realize there was a rule against being the fastest.

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And what the mustang guys DONT SAY are all the suspension mods they have on those cars.. the gt500 IS NOT better in a straight line or a corner. . Ford just gives them a good edge off the showroom floor.. its called boost.. ANY zl with 15 pounds, a cold air and 120mm throttle body ( we cant even get thst big) even completly stock suspension kill it.. ford just came to the fight better prepared. . I say good for them.. zl is still just as capable though.
Dude fanboism is strong with you. GT500 is definitely better in a straight line. And as for your suspension comment, the 9.75 run that Livernois did was on stock suspension and gears.
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