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Old 12-20-2012, 09:50 AM   #1
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tis the season to be smashed by a saturn

So, I'm driving along the other night. I cross the intersection as its turning yellow and some guy in the oncoming left turn lane suddenly decides to turn into my wheel. He was driving a saturn. Luckily there as cop a few cars behind the guy in traffic so we were able to sort everything out quickly. No injuries. This is where things get bad: The cop says he's sorry but he has to hold me at fault. He says I ran a red light. Mind you, I'm on leave back home in Chicago, where there are several corners with photo taking red light cameras, this being one of those corner. I asked the cop if I ran the red light, then why didn't the camera flash? He couldn't explain that. I would stay and try to fight this in court but I deploy very soon. Effen CPD. fml...
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:52 AM   #2
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Well thats a load of
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:56 AM   #3
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Wow. I really feel bad for you on this one! That really sucks & hope you win when you fight it.

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Old 12-20-2012, 09:56 AM   #4
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Doesn't it take a while for the other driver to leave on the green light. The other driver must have left the line while their light was still on solid red. That means he entered the intersection too early....right Glad no one was hurt
Even if he was making a left turn on red, he still have to merge for oncoming traffic to finish getting through the intersection..
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:01 AM   #5
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You can request to have a hearing delayed till you return from deployment, had something similar when I was on leave in AZ and was able to have my hearing delayed and also to have the hearing over the phone since I was not living in AZ.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:20 AM   #6
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I cross the intersection as its turning yellow and some guy in the oncoming left turn lane suddenly decides to turn into my wheel.
Oncoming left lane making a turn? The cop is full of BS. All intersections tell you to yield on green, or yellow.

Even if he got a green arrow he shouldn't have turned with you still crossing. It takes some careless driving to turn into someones front end. "I didn't see you there" ????? right...
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:29 AM   #7
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damn.... I'm sorry man you have to go through this
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:37 AM   #8
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Light red = you at fault.
Light green or yellow = they are at fault.

I would do a lookup on who manages the red light tickets. In my city it is a differnet department than DOT. Ask them if they got a red light pic of your car. If not contest and cite/call that department.
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:50 AM   #9
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Looks like the caliper took some sort of hit too. Sorry to hear that.
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:27 PM   #10
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sucks. hope everything works out in your favor!
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:32 PM   #11
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Damn that's alot of damage!! Which you shouldn't pay for since you clearly are not at fault here you should definetly have a delayed hearing and fight this good luck and thank you for your service!
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Old 12-20-2012, 02:21 PM   #12
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Pictures or it didn't happen (you running the red light).
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Old 12-20-2012, 02:30 PM   #13
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Wow, that sucks! I hope you are able to get it taken care of quickly!

I will say that I am surprised that the cop even assigned fault. I know from personal experience that even when there was clear fault, I have had cops tell that they cannot indicate that unless it was a ticketable offense. Did he write you a ticket for running the red? If not, it sounds like not even he is sure that you ran the red. Hopefully the camera can offer some clarity.

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Old 12-20-2012, 02:55 PM   #14
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That sux! Be safe over there and thanks for your service.
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Old 12-20-2012, 03:15 PM   #15
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What about hiring a lawyer and let them fight your case, traffic lawyers usually aren't to bad or delay the case until your return. But write everything down so you're not recalling it from memory later on.
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Old 12-20-2012, 04:29 PM   #16
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Even if he was making a left turn on red...
Where can that be done - legally? Never seen it.
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Old 12-20-2012, 04:38 PM   #17
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Where can that be done - legally? Never seen it.
I have when you are turning left from a one way street to another one way street.
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Old 12-20-2012, 04:39 PM   #18
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call and request they move the court date up as you are deploying, cant imagine they would have an issue with that.
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Old 12-20-2012, 04:48 PM   #19
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So, I'm driving along the other night. I cross the intersection as its turning yellow and some guy in the oncoming left turn lane suddenly decides to turn into my wheel. He was driving a saturn. Luckily there as cop a few cars behind the guy in traffic so we were able to sort everything out quickly. No injuries. This is where things get bad: The cop says he's sorry but he has to hold me at fault. He says I ran a red light. Mind you, I'm on leave back home in Chicago, where there are several corners with photo taking red light cameras, this being one of those corner. I asked the cop if I ran the red light, then why didn't the camera flash? He couldn't explain that. I would stay and try to fight this in court but I deploy very soon. Effen CPD. fml...
The way red light cameras here work if you are past the sensor before the light turns red it won't take a picture. How wide and how long does it take to cross the intersection? How fast were you driving when you entered the intersection. Could it be possible that the light was already yellow before you entered the intersection and turned red just as you entered it and you just didn't notice it red? Glad nobody was hurt.
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Old 12-20-2012, 05:51 PM   #20
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Firstly, thanks for your service and stay safe on deployment

The red light cam may end up working in your favor
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:01 PM   #21
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I'm not so sure your insurance company is gonna be quick to accept fault on this. I can see it maybe turning into a partial fault situation.

If your light was turning red then so was the Saturn driver's. It's common for people to sit in the middle of intersections waiting to turn left and sometimes the light turns red so they have to go because they are blocking the intersection. Unless he had a protected left turn arrow then you both ran the red, or yellow so I can't see how one person had more right-away then the other. Also, how could they not see you.

Lucky it wasn't a head on I guess, good luck.
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:51 PM   #22
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Well the good news the body shop said they'll be able to get everything fixed and back to perfect condition. I talked to the folks at the police station and down at traffic services downtown, and based on my story, they're gonna get me in front of a judge asap. My insurance company is backing me up at least.
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Old 12-21-2012, 11:02 AM   #23
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Well the good news the body shop said they'll be able to get everything fixed and back to perfect condition. I talked to the folks at the police station and down at traffic services downtown, and based on my story, they're gonna get me in front of a judge asap. My insurance company is backing me up at least.
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Old 12-21-2012, 03:52 PM   #24
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Nah, i work on jets
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Old 12-21-2012, 03:53 PM   #25
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Pictures or it didn't happen (you running the red light).
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