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Old 12-24-2012, 10:46 PM   #501
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My racing friend has a Z06 and he's had nothing but problems with the LS7 motor. During track events, he has to shut down early due to over oil temperatures. He even had his original motor blow on him while on a track. He fought GM tooth and nail and finally got an out of court settlement. Then guess what? GM issues a voluntary recall on the LS7 and the issue it covers is exactly the one that caused his motor to blow in the first place.

I'd wonder how well the LS7 would hold up for those of us who track our cars hard.
Would like to know more about the recall you are referring to. I'm not aware of any...but therea re quite a bit of problems with the LS7.
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:58 PM   #502
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:03 PM   #503
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Quite a few people don't give that LT4 engine much credit.

It is a very respectable engine, especially in the lighter weight '96 Corvette.

Traded mine for a 5th gen after owning it for a decade. I had ALOT of fun in that car. LT headers, 4:10 gears and a hotcam helped too. 116mph trap speeds with that tiny cam was pretty good I thought.
I just want my SS to trap at the same mph or higher.
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:16 PM   #504
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Nice, this might get me back into a 5th gen again
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Old 12-25-2012, 12:39 AM   #505
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Other then the valve issues, what are known issues with the LS7?


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Old 12-25-2012, 12:25 PM   #506
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hmmm interesting?
was going to hold onto mine 5th until the 6th gen comes out but now who knows
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Old 12-25-2012, 01:03 PM   #507
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Old 12-25-2012, 01:06 PM   #508
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? that doesn't make sense its the same car different engine and susp. that doesn't make it different

the z/28 that you guys are looking for sounds like the 1le maybe they should have just called it a z/28 to appease you guys
I don't mean literally different. It had its own engine and a track oriented suspension. It was purpose built for racing. The 1LE is just a performance package so calling it the Z/28 would have been a mistake. GM lost its way with the Z/28 name so they need to make sure it gets back to where it belongs.
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Old 12-25-2012, 03:18 PM   #509
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I have not read the whole thread but think everyone is overthinking this whole thing. I bet they just call this car the 427 Camaro like they did with the Vette. I hope they build it and price it right.
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Old 12-25-2012, 03:26 PM   #510
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Let's assume for a moment it's rated the same as a Z06, at 505 HP.

If it had a price tag set in the mid-40s thereabouts, I could see this as a mid-range affordable performance Camaro. Not a 1LE, but not a ZL1 either.

And just plain call it an LS7 Camaro and leave it at that. Of course, only GM knows for sure right now whether we're going to see anything like that or not. So we wait.
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:26 PM   #511
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Old 12-25-2012, 08:57 PM   #512
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The Z28 name is important to our history, and it is also important as a marketing tool. It makes sense to me that an LS7 based Z28 could bring in more money while honoring the Z28 name appropriately.

Not everyone can afford a ZL1. That is simply a fact. I believe the TEAM is putting together a Z28 that will drop jaws like ZL1 did, but without the costly bells and whistles of superchargers. That means a lower price point and a happy market segment.

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Old 12-25-2012, 09:06 PM   #513
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Zl1weighx 260 lbs more than a SS. If they just put the ls7 engine in and did nothing else it would weigh the same as SS. Hd axles and or reared would add weight but it would be in the right pace. Not like the 120 lbs of supercharger/intercooler at the front of the Zl1.
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Old 12-26-2012, 12:21 PM   #514
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I want it to be true too. I just don't want to get worked up only to be let down. Having it show up as some kind of ultra-rare, super-expensive COPO would also be a major let down too.
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Old 12-26-2012, 01:32 PM   #515
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I would like to know what the intended purpose of the car would be. 1LE is for track duty. ZL1 is for track duty. Is this another track car or is it just a "we need to dump the LS7 stuff since Z06 isn't using it anymore" run to make use of existing parts.

With a manual trans only, it's going to be problematic to launch on a 1/4 mi w/o the correct controls and/or driver -- we've seen this repeatedly, even with the PTM on the manual ZL1s. Though, this variant shouldn't have the heat issues that that ZL1s are currently facing, so it should be a little more stable in back2back runs and such.

If it's intended to be a 1/4 mi racer, I'd rather see it in an auto -- but, that ain't happening if it's powered by the LS7 -- unless GM pulls an Ace out of some hidden sleeve.
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Old 12-26-2012, 03:38 PM   #516
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The Z28 name is important to our history, and it is also important as a marketing tool. It makes sense to me that an LS7 based Z28 could bring in more money while honoring the Z28 name appropriately.

Not everyone can afford a ZL1. That is simply a fact. I believe the TEAM is putting together a Z28 that will drop jaws like ZL1 did, but without the costly bells and whistles of superchargers. That means a lower price point and a happy market segment.

Happy market segments make for profit, job security, and more hot cars on the road.

CAMARO = WINNING
I think the Big thing that is being missed is....

If and when they bring out a 505HP Z28......
I bet they are gonna properly bump up the ZL1 to probably 650 or at least 630 like the ZR1......

They have to justify paying the extra money for the ZL1 so it will get a bump similar to this link......

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Old 12-26-2012, 07:50 PM   #517
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I would like to know what the intended purpose of the car would be. 1LE is for track duty. ZL1 is for track duty. Is this another track car or is it just a "we need to dump the LS7 stuff since Z06 isn't using it anymore" run to make use of existing parts.

With a manual trans only, it's going to be problematic to launch on a 1/4 mi w/o the correct controls and/or driver -- we've seen this repeatedly, even with the PTM on the manual ZL1s. Though, this variant shouldn't have the heat issues that that ZL1s are currently facing, so it should be a little more stable in back2back runs and such.

If it's intended to be a 1/4 mi racer, I'd rather see it in an auto -- but, that ain't happening if it's powered by the LS7 -- unless GM pulls an Ace out of some hidden sleeve.
How many Corvettes are available? Are they ALL not track car designs?
The ZL1 is a Luxo-GT Racer, or top o' the line Camaro. The 1LE is a better performing SS Camaro. An LS7/Z28 is exactly what it's original status was...Track Superstar Camaro!
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Old 12-26-2012, 10:09 PM   #518
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I wanted a SS so bad but if there is a twin turbo V6 camaro im getting that i heard it will have close to 400hp or more
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Old 12-26-2012, 10:13 PM   #519
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Old 12-26-2012, 10:22 PM   #520
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I wanted a SS so bad but if there is a twin turbo V6 camaro im getting that i heard it will have close to 400hp or more
this is what im more excited about.
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Old 12-26-2012, 11:11 PM   #521
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I wanted a SS so bad but if there is a twin turbo V6 camaro im getting that i heard it will have close to 400hp or more
Why? The LS3 is still better, and probably cheaper.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:35 AM   #522
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If camaro goes to a V6 in there SS, whether Turbo or not I'll be switching back to a mustang when time to trade... that's for fact!!
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Old 12-27-2012, 07:11 AM   #523
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If camaro goes to a V6 in there SS, whether Turbo or not I'll be switching back to a mustang when time to trade... that's for fact!!
It won't happen right now but in the future probably in another 10 yrs or so it'll go v-6 as the powerhouse. Don't stress yourself over it right now. V8 is still available and THE choice to own.
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Old 12-27-2012, 07:14 AM   #524
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GTR is doing rather well and it's only a TT V6.
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