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Old 01-01-2013, 01:28 AM   #155
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Well, If Chevrolet used the help of an outside company to make there car perform better in the 1/4 mile I am sure the race would not even be an issue. Oh well as long as what you drive is a Ford, Dodge, and most of all Chevrolet you have my respect.:flag2:
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Old 01-01-2013, 01:30 AM   #156
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Hmm, think you're not understanding my point...its easy to make a car go fast in a straight line, just takes some money.
Making it endure Nurburgring at 7.40 takes skill and engineering...and lots of it. The fact the GT500 can barely beat a $37k car with 200 less horsepower speaks volumes. There are about a million mods you can do to a LS3 to make a Camaro do the 1/4 faster then a GT500...

As far as egotistical people who are busy living life "a quarter mile at a time"...just don't have time for those kind of people...
I don't race on public roads and anytime anybody wants to challenge me, I say "sure, lets go to the track"...they usually decline...they usually lack the skill and are worried about their "superior" cars breaking...

Guess you can look at it another way...Cars can accelerate, decelerate, turn left, turn right and endure....seems kind of ridiculous to declare your car superior against a car that can do ALL of those well, because you can do a quarter mile .3 of a second faster, yet suck at everything else...


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last I checked its beaten the ZL1 on close to half of the tracks they have tested the GT500 against the ZL1...
Really? why not list those out for me and we'll review

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Old 01-01-2013, 01:44 AM   #157
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I don't drag race and I don't race on the track either. I do know that my ZL1 is one bad MOFO with a sexy fat a$$. I could never pick a GT500 over her but I would love to have one as a side ride. On a serious note the fact that the GT500 is more powerful and weighs less you would think that it would whoop the ZL1 on all road courses and not just on the strip. I mean doesn't it have a track package for "Road Courses"? My 2cents....
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Old 01-01-2013, 01:53 AM   #158
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I have been reading the whole thread speaking of performance value a 60k 12 second car isn't the best bang for your buck IMHO.
The ZL1 beat cars many times more than it's value around VIR. Sorry if that bugs you, but no one on this thread is going to mistake your sour grapes for a valid argument. Quarter mile times don't define the ZL1, deal with it.
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:49 AM   #159
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:18 AM   #160
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I have been reading the whole thread speaking of performance value a 60k 12 second car isn't the best bang for your buck IMHO.
Sure if that's all you care about. This thread is about VIR. There's a lot more to a ZL1 than a 12 sec 1/4 mile.
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Old 01-01-2013, 08:53 AM   #161
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Sure if that's all you care about. This thread is about VIR. There's a lot more to a ZL1 than a 12 sec 1/4 mile.
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The ZL1 beat cars many times more than it's value around VIR. Sorry if that bugs you, but no one on this thread is going to mistake your sour grapes for a valid argument. Quarter mile times don't define the ZL1, deal with it.
Thank you. The return of sanity and context.
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Old 01-01-2013, 09:27 AM   #162
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Sure if that's all you care about. This thread is about VIR. There's a lot more to a ZL1 than a 12 sec 1/4 mile.
and theres a lot more to a gt500 then a 3:00 minute lap. A lot of people on here just dont give credit where its due. Ford made a awesome car, Chevy made a awesome car.They both have there ups and downs but if i were to pick one it would be the gt500 simply because most of my driving consists of straight lines, highway, and stop line to stop light pulls.Just like most people in there early 20's i care about raw power. Im not trying to bash the zl1 im just stating my opinion
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Old 01-01-2013, 09:28 AM   #163
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Thank you. The return of sanity and context.
Nope the sanity is back out the window and context? never
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What I dont get is all of the sudden a road course time is what matters the most. As far back as I can remember, 1/4 mile times were what was talked about. Now, 1/4 mile times are "not all the car is about"??? Hmmmmmm. I love the ZL1 and all but sounds kind of fishy to me. Why is this big push for road course times out all of the sudden when it never even came to mind not to long ago.
Personally, I could give a rats ass about a road course time.

I can just hear it now......."he buddy, I bet I can take that offramp faster than you!!!!!" OR, "Ill race you around that corner for pinks!!!"
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Old 01-01-2013, 09:38 AM   #165
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last I checked its beaten the ZL1 on close to half of the tracks they have tested the GT500 against the ZL1...but no where has the ZL1 beaten the GT500 on the drag strip. And who cares about the 1/4? Bet there are more 1/4 threads on here then there are road courses. Only reason the road course matters now is b/c its the only thing the Camaro has a chance on.

Oh please name half the tracks the 500 beat the Z on ...
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Old 01-01-2013, 09:39 AM   #166
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What I dont get is all of the sudden a road course time is what matters the most. As far back as I can remember, 1/4 mile times were what was talked about. Now, 1/4 mile times are "not all the car is about"??? Hmmmmmm. I love the ZL1 and all but sounds kind of fishy to me. Why is this big push for road course times out all of the sudden when it never even came to mind not to long ago.
Personally, I could give a rats ass about a road course time.
excatly i would say they only care because thats all the zl1 has aganist the gt500 or the "it looks better'' argument buttttt i wont say that
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Old 01-01-2013, 09:41 AM   #167
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What I dont get is all of the sudden a road course time is what matters the most. As far back as I can remember, 1/4 mile times were what was talked about. Now, 1/4 mile times are "not all the car is about"??? Hmmmmmm. I love the ZL1 and all but sounds kind of fishy to me. Why is this big push for road course times out all of the sudden when it never even came to mind not to long ago.
Personally, I could give a rats ass about a road course time.

I can just hear it now......."he buddy, I bet I can take that offramp faster than you!!!!!" OR, "Ill race you around that corner for pinks!!!"
Or '' you just beat me in a straight line? lets take it to some random track that noboday cares about and try again""
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What I dont get is all of the sudden a road course time is what matters the most. As far back as I can remember, 1/4 mile times were what was talked about. Now, 1/4 mile times are "not all the car is about"??? Hmmmmmm. I love the ZL1 and all but sounds kind of fishy to me. Why is this big push for road course times out all of the sudden when it never even came to mind not to long ago.
Personally, I could give a rats ass about a road course time.

I can just hear it now......."he buddy, I bet I can take that offramp faster than you!!!!!" OR, "Ill race you around that corner for pinks!!!"

That's because it's finally becoming more popular in the U.S. ...
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