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Old 06-10-2009, 09:51 PM   #1
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Went to the track with my stock Auto 2ss tonight

Well, no tricks, just went down to the track and made about 6 passes (for the most part hot lapping because I got there late and it closed early) and went home, my best pass was a 13.38 @ 104.8 mph with a 2.01 60 foot time. OMG I can't wait to tune this thing, but I found some bugs in the HPtuners Beta software so I have to wait for them to sort them out first. My Camaro 2ss is completely stock, and I had about 3/4 tank of gas, I didn't touch anything, just put it in Sport mode and went down the track for a baseline.
We are getting close to finishing our prototype intake system that goes over the radiator, the concept and design is complete, just have to wrap up some odds and ends and then of course do a bunch of testing to make sure it performs, you guys are going to like it, I promise...
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:55 PM   #2
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pretty good times for the circumstances.

so you didnt have or did have a tune installed?
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:57 PM   #3
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cool, can't wait to see what you guys have to offer.
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:57 PM   #4
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No, COMPLETELY STOCK, tune and everything. I bet you it will be 12's with just a transmission tune. The trans stock calibration sucks for drag racing.
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Old 06-10-2009, 10:16 PM   #5
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nice, cant wait to get the CAI and a tune from you!
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Old 06-10-2009, 10:34 PM   #6
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Interesting. Good info.
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Old 06-10-2009, 11:02 PM   #7
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13.38, a pretty solid time. Won't take to much at all to break into 12's.
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Old 06-11-2009, 07:14 AM   #8
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I ran mine last night too but it was 85-degrees and humidity was nasty. My best run was 13.8 and there was a Charger SRT8 (w/exhaust) who ran 13.9. I raced heads up with my buddy in his Challenger R/T and had him by a second every time. He was having a little trouble launching, but even once he hooked I was pulling him hard. My best 60' was 2.147 (14.0 run). My best et was 13.86 (2.2 60').

As the OP said you will love it!! Unless you don't like mobs of peolpe because it draws so much attention everywhere I go. Everybody is in awe over the design and detailing put into the car. It is absolutely beatiful.
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Old 06-11-2009, 10:31 AM   #9
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No, COMPLETELY STOCK, tune and everything. I bet you it will be 12's with just a transmission tune. The trans stock calibration sucks for drag racing.
I thought these were 12.9 cars w/o any external mods (tune's included)?? Is GM blowing smoke??
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No GM isn't smoiing but they also didn't get 12.9 runs in summer weather. Elevation will affect ETs as well. Wait until fall returns and you'll stock cars hitting 12's.
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Old 06-11-2009, 04:15 PM   #11
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I thought these were 12.9 cars w/o any external mods (tune's included)?? Is GM blowing smoke??
The L99 car is supposed to run a 13.2 @ 105, according to the Chevy website for the camaro. The LS3 is supposed to run a 12.9 @ 111. So the original poster is right in the ballpark. A 1.9 60' time would give you a 13.2, based on his 2.0 60' time.
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Old 06-11-2009, 09:24 PM   #12
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The L99 car is supposed to run a 13.2 @ 105, according to the Chevy website for the camaro. The LS3 is supposed to run a 12.9 @ 111. So the original poster is right in the ballpark. A 1.9 60' time would give you a 13.2, based on his 2.0 60' time.
Right on.

12.9, not gonna happen unless you go to ATCO Raceway in winter where the D/A is 5000 ft below sea level.

The track I ran it at was 1000 ft above sea level, and it was a humid night here, and mid 70's on the temp. Not the best conditions, but I wanted to see what she had stock. I think someone can run a 13.1 stock in the right conditions for sure too, but this is what my car did on this night. Now we are still testing induction systems and waiting for an adjustment from HPtuners to tune it.
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Old 06-11-2009, 10:55 PM   #13
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ya, the LS3 is the one that runs the 12.9's, not the L99. you will be a bit closer to 12.9 with a stock LS3 compared to the L99, depending on driving ability
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Old 06-11-2009, 11:29 PM   #14
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And in the long run, if you plan on modding, the L99 will prevail, trust me, it's just a matter of time, it is a better design for this. VVT, valve reliefs already cut into the pistons, 6speed automatic that with tuning alone will shift better than a 4l60 with a shift kit in it. Stay tuned guys...
I ran the car to get a baseline before any mods were done, so you guys can see what my car did stock and as we do r&d you can see what the mods we do will get you based on what my car did stock, no tricks.
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Old 06-12-2009, 11:27 AM   #15
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Hey Mike...

I know a pretty good camshaft designer that can help...

Congrats on the new ride. I may get out there and sell the GTO as well as the wife's C5 to start building my own toy. I'm an old fart so I'm going in a different direction. Especially with Obammy talking about killing the factory muscle cars...

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Old 06-12-2009, 11:06 PM   #16
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Hey Mike...

I know a pretty good camshaft designer that can help...

Congrats on the new ride. I may get out there and sell the GTO as well as the wife's C5 to start building my own toy. I'm an old fart so I'm going in a different direction. Especially with Obammy talking about killing the factory muscle cars...

Looks like the gangs all here...VVT cam design at its finest...so what do you have up your sleeve for VVT AND a positive displacement blower???
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Old 06-13-2009, 12:51 PM   #17
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I want to test everything in steps so that we learn the most we can each step of the way, first the OTR intake, then headers are already here just waiting to be installed on a couple of customers camaros already, then camshafts etc. But the main thing right now after the intake testing is complete, is tuning, I don't want to tune a customer's car with bugs still in the software.
After a ton of testing we finally have the concept down for the OTR intake design, now we have to rebuild one and retest MAF sensor placement.
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Old 06-13-2009, 03:39 PM   #18
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Yeah,
anyone that can pull low 13s this time a year is doing good. Those low 13s can easily become high 12s in cool dry air this fall or during the winter down here in Florida.

We really won't see fast times (the times everyone wants to see) until at least this fall.
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Old 06-14-2009, 12:36 AM   #19
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I can't wait to see the results with the tune.
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Old 06-23-2009, 11:32 AM   #20
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going back to the track wednesday for some new times, hopefully well have the OTR intake this time around. Ill post updated times tomorrow night.
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Old 06-25-2009, 06:25 PM   #21
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I am glad to hear not everyones automatic cars are as ridiculously slow as mine was. Dealer bought it back today. I am relieved but still disappointed.
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Old 06-26-2009, 11:36 AM   #22
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didnt make it out Wednesday but were hoping the weather holds up for tonight...
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didnt make it out Wednesday but were hoping the weather holds up for tonight...

Did you run the car again? I wish you would leave it stock and run it in some good air, but I know you're on the fast track to getting it modded and tuned.

But the air in the N.E. will be getting good for racing in a few months.
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Old 06-28-2009, 05:50 PM   #24
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I ran friday night in bad air and went 12.9 @ 108. Details are in our otr intake sale thread.
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I ran 12.9 @ 108 mph in real bad air, the humidity was terrible and everyone's times were off.by a couple tenths so I am real happy.
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