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Old 01-02-2013, 06:58 PM   #1
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1LE vs BMW.. Sorta!!!

So....... I have a regular customer that just bought a 2013 M5 & M6 BMW's about a month ago. He comes in today to have some work done to them and he instantly starts talking about the Car and Driver Lighting lap and how well they did. I sorta chuckled and took him outside and then introduced him to my 1LE. Then I pulled up the lap times on the internet and showed him where his cars ranked against my SS that cost 1/4 of what each of his did. He just stood there with a dumbfounded look on his face.... WINNING!!! Im now sitting at home laughing about it. Just thought I would share my story...

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Old 01-02-2013, 07:07 PM   #2
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Yes, thanks for sharing,cant say enough how much i hate BMW people!
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:07 PM   #3
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:57 PM   #4
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Yes, thanks for sharing,cant say enough how much i hate BMW people!
My nephew sells bmws part time, sold many m5 and m6 and was dumbfounded on how a 1le could beat them on a track.
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Old 01-02-2013, 08:04 PM   #5
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Old 01-02-2013, 08:12 PM   #6
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Yeah that great news, long live 1LE, the cars are ok,i would never have one,but the people who drive them......sigh!
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Old 01-02-2013, 08:50 PM   #7
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My brother in law has a 335i with the twin turbo V-6. It looks nice but I haven't had a chance to ride in it. I really want to talk trash but I don't want to be that one-upper guy. Plus I don't have mine yet.
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Old 01-02-2013, 08:54 PM   #8
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My wife has 2007 328i. It's a head ache. A bunch of stupid issues on that car.
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Old 01-02-2013, 09:03 PM   #9
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My brother just got a 2012 328i, and although it's only a Turbo 4, it is a fast car, I will give it that and a great ride. I can only imagine the drive and features of the M5 and M6, I drove an M3 before I got my 1LE and it was lacking the new interior so it was not an option, but amazing cars nonetheless.

If you can afford it, you can't compare the cars, they serve completely different purposes than the 1LE.
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but who is really winning ? I would say the guy with the two new M models.

just a thought haha.
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Old 01-02-2013, 10:00 PM   #11
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Yeah that great news, long live 1LE, the cars are ok,i would never have one,but the people who drive them......sigh!
i really don't see why you hate on people with BMWs.
i have a 328i nothing really crazy, its my DD. it handles and feels better on the road over my mothers CTS, and my camaro.

its my first BMW, and i can see why people get them.
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Old 01-02-2013, 10:12 PM   #12
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but who is really winning ? I would say the guy with the two new M models.

just a thought haha.
Now thats a good point you have there. But you have to remember we are on a camaro forum here. We are always WINNING!!!
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Old 01-02-2013, 10:16 PM   #13
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i really don't see why you hate on people with BMWs.
i have a 328i nothing really crazy, its my DD. it handles and feels better on the road over my mothers CTS, and my camaro.

its my first BMW, and i can see why people get them.
I hate on people with BMWs because 99 out of a 100 along with Mercedes and Lexus drivers believe they own the road because of their "status" cars. You don't know how many times I've been cut off by one of those 3 because most of them all feel they earn the right to the road over everyone else.
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Old 01-03-2013, 01:30 AM   #14
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So....... I have a regular customer that just bought a 2013 M5 & M6 BMW's about a month ago. He comes in today to have some work done to them and he instantly starts talking about the Car and Driver Lighting lap and how well they did. I sorta chuckled and took him outside and then introduced him to my 1LE. Then I pulled up the lap times on the internet and showed him where his cars ranked against my SS that cost 1/4 of what each of his did. He just stood there with a dumbfounded look on his face.... WINNING!!! Im now sitting at home laughing about it. Just thought I would share my story...

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Old 01-03-2013, 01:43 AM   #15
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My nephew sells bmws part time, sold many m5 and m6 and was dumbfounded on how a 1le could beat them on a track.
Chevy went hard to the hoop to make this a great track car. Al Oppenheiser's videos talk about it clearly. There's been a lot of discussion that the 1LE isn't a product, it's just an option. But on Chevy's Facebook page they list the 1LE as a product right next to the ZL1! And they supposedly have no production cap on the car. I get the sense that are waiting and seeing what happens with the car during track results and how the public reacts. I think we're reacting quite nicely.

And it's amazing how many people stop me and say something about this car. Two days ago I went to the dealer for something. People were walking up to the car, looking in, walking around. As I waited for the service writer one guy circled the car 3 or 4 times and didn't take his eyes off it for ten minutes. Next a father and his boy walk around it and stared at it. The boy even caressed the mirror. At the auto part store today, a couple guys in a mustang were being effusive about the way the car looks. In a 'stang! And yesterday while driving past a bus stop, some mom and friend with her baby in a stroller yelled out, "That's sweet! Tricked out!".

Finally, this car with the dual-mode exhaust, just sounds amazing. I've heard and drove tuned German cars and there's nothing quite like the V8 sound of a small block chevy!
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I hate on people with BMWs because 99 out of a 100 along with Mercedes and Lexus drivers believe they own the road because of their "status" cars. You don't know how many times I've been cut off by one of those 3 because most of them all feel they earn the right to the road over everyone else.
Hey: don't generalize your hate too much. I have a Mercedes (E550 C 2012) and get a new Camaro every year: at least while I'm employed at TMS. I love the Camaros and the twin-turbo Benz is fun too, but in a different way.
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:54 AM   #17
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but who is really winning ? I would say the guy with the two new M models.

just a thought haha.
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One Man wins over another Man because he has two expensive cars?

Ha, I say drop the pants and count the lipstick marks, let's see who's actually "WINNING"!
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Hey: don't generalize your hate too much. I have a Mercedes (E550 C 2012) and get a new Camaro every year: at least while I'm employed at TMS. I love the Camaros and the twin-turbo Benz is fun too, but in a different way.
You may be that 1% but I'm speaking mainly from experience.
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Ha, I say drop the pants and count the lipstick marks, let's see who's actually "WINNING"!
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:26 PM   #21
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i really don't see why you hate on people with BMWs.
i have a 328i nothing really crazy, its my DD. it handles and feels better on the road over my mothers CTS, and my camaro.

its my first BMW, and i can see why people get them.
That probably wasn't fair.I dislike(hate)anyone with celebrity type arrogance nothing turns me off more,and here in Calif.we have too much of that.It seems that more then anyone they drive in the fast lane and seem to think that they dont have to move right,thats all i meant.So lets be fair,i hate anyone in the fast lane
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Thread of the day. Why? Someone agreed with mikeSS don't think I have ever seen that before.
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That probably wasn't fair.I dislike(hate)anyone with celebrity type arrogance nothing turns me off more,and here in Calif.we have too much of that.It seems that more then anyone they drive in the fast lane and seem to think that they dont have to move right,thats all i meant.So lets be air,i hate anyone in the fast lane
the fast lane hogging happens a lot here in the Northeast. Plenty of people with poor driving aptitude, not something that is emphasized in drivers ed. :(
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That probably wasn't fair.I dislike(hate)anyone with celebrity type arrogance nothing turns me off more,and here in Calif.we have too much of that.It seems that more then anyone they drive in the fast lane and seem to think that they dont have to move right,thats all i meant.So lets be fair,i hate anyone in the fast lane
Sh^t. Don't apologize. BMW drivers are KNOWN for their persona. This in Marketing is a known brand image. Good or bad there's an image to everything and people are associated to it. iPhone users. Android users. "I'm a Mac." "I'm a PC." Jack Daniels. Scotch.

Listen to what Jeremey Clarkson (Top Gear) says about BMW drivers. He hates them.

And a husband of my wife's school friend said to his wife, upon hearing I ditched my Audi S4 for a Camaro, "Wow. I'm surprised and impressed. I though he was one of those BMW guys."

I've gotten a rash of crap from people at work in the Silicon Valley, a place where American cars are the clear minority, about my Camaro. Luckily I really don't care and wasn't affected by their comments. But my point is this. People have stereotypes no matter what.

But all stereotypes, personas and brand images aside BMW and Audi do make great cars. In the Car and Driver article they were effusive about the BMW 335i. Every Camaro driver should read it. They said it was he most consistent car in the track three years running.

At the end of the day what I really care about is that Chevy is making some kick butt cars with the ZL1 and the 1LE. And with great engineering and incredible cost management Chevy have built a contender to go toe to toe with the Germans. I'm a proud owner and incredibly happy to have bought American.

People are going to judge me in this car. And I don't care. I'm happy and love the NPP rumble. Same way the BMW guys love their ultimate driving machines.

Now let's go kick some booty on the track and keep these VIR results alive in 2013.
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It's funny because there's a starbucks close to my house in a rather snoody corner of the woodlands TX. I went up there on Sunday to buy a lb of coffee and there's always Porsches and BMWs all up there. I got the Evil stare and a couple of like OMG look at this white trash guy. I rolled up with the windows down banging rock music and wearing a Chevrolet Racing jacket.
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