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Old 01-03-2013, 11:24 AM   #18
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One Man wins over another Man because he has two expensive cars?

Ha, I say drop the pants and count the lipstick marks, let's see who's actually "WINNING"!
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:40 AM   #19
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Hey: don't generalize your hate too much. I have a Mercedes (E550 C 2012) and get a new Camaro every year: at least while I'm employed at TMS. I love the Camaros and the twin-turbo Benz is fun too, but in a different way.
You may be that 1% but I'm speaking mainly from experience.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:43 AM   #20
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One Man wins over another Man because he has two expensive cars?

Ha, I say drop the pants and count the lipstick marks, let's see who's actually "WINNING"!
Dropping another mans pants...Your on your own with that.
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Old 01-03-2013, 01:26 PM   #21
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i really don't see why you hate on people with BMWs.
i have a 328i nothing really crazy, its my DD. it handles and feels better on the road over my mothers CTS, and my camaro.

its my first BMW, and i can see why people get them.
That probably wasn't fair.I dislike(hate)anyone with celebrity type arrogance nothing turns me off more,and here in Calif.we have too much of that.It seems that more then anyone they drive in the fast lane and seem to think that they dont have to move right,thats all i meant.So lets be fair,i hate anyone in the fast lane
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Old 01-03-2013, 01:35 PM   #22
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Thread of the day. Why? Someone agreed with mikeSS don't think I have ever seen that before.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:17 PM   #23
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That probably wasn't fair.I dislike(hate)anyone with celebrity type arrogance nothing turns me off more,and here in Calif.we have too much of that.It seems that more then anyone they drive in the fast lane and seem to think that they dont have to move right,thats all i meant.So lets be air,i hate anyone in the fast lane
the fast lane hogging happens a lot here in the Northeast. Plenty of people with poor driving aptitude, not something that is emphasized in drivers ed. :(
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Old 01-04-2013, 03:36 AM   #24
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That probably wasn't fair.I dislike(hate)anyone with celebrity type arrogance nothing turns me off more,and here in Calif.we have too much of that.It seems that more then anyone they drive in the fast lane and seem to think that they dont have to move right,thats all i meant.So lets be fair,i hate anyone in the fast lane
Sh^t. Don't apologize. BMW drivers are KNOWN for their persona. This in Marketing is a known brand image. Good or bad there's an image to everything and people are associated to it. iPhone users. Android users. "I'm a Mac." "I'm a PC." Jack Daniels. Scotch.

Listen to what Jeremey Clarkson (Top Gear) says about BMW drivers. He hates them.

And a husband of my wife's school friend said to his wife, upon hearing I ditched my Audi S4 for a Camaro, "Wow. I'm surprised and impressed. I though he was one of those BMW guys."

I've gotten a rash of crap from people at work in the Silicon Valley, a place where American cars are the clear minority, about my Camaro. Luckily I really don't care and wasn't affected by their comments. But my point is this. People have stereotypes no matter what.

But all stereotypes, personas and brand images aside BMW and Audi do make great cars. In the Car and Driver article they were effusive about the BMW 335i. Every Camaro driver should read it. They said it was he most consistent car in the track three years running.

At the end of the day what I really care about is that Chevy is making some kick butt cars with the ZL1 and the 1LE. And with great engineering and incredible cost management Chevy have built a contender to go toe to toe with the Germans. I'm a proud owner and incredibly happy to have bought American.

People are going to judge me in this car. And I don't care. I'm happy and love the NPP rumble. Same way the BMW guys love their ultimate driving machines.

Now let's go kick some booty on the track and keep these VIR results alive in 2013.
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It's funny because there's a starbucks close to my house in a rather snoody corner of the woodlands TX. I went up there on Sunday to buy a lb of coffee and there's always Porsches and BMWs all up there. I got the Evil stare and a couple of like OMG look at this white trash guy. I rolled up with the windows down banging rock music and wearing a Chevrolet Racing jacket.
Chevy drivers have an image and persona to upkeep as well.
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Yours truly BMW M5 owner.

Take that one 1LE to a mile run and watch your grin fade to tears...

I am not sure what you are implying, but you super expensive V-10 M5 is slower than the 1LE in every way. 0-100 isnt even a contest. Stick to the right lane on the highway and you should be fine though....
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:41 AM   #27
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I am not sure what you are implying, but you super expensive V-10 M5 is slower than the 1LE in every way. 0-100 isnt even a contest. Stick to the right lane on the highway and you should be fine though....
Your not serious are you? Lmao. You must be new here.
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Old 01-04-2013, 12:23 PM   #28
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On the highway, that M5 would gobble us up. Didn't the M6 beat the ZL1 in straight line acceleration on one of the magazine comparisons? Motor trend I believe (convertibles).

The M5 is nice and a different purpose car but for the price tag impossible to beat the 1LE bang for the buck out the factory.
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Old 01-09-2013, 09:55 PM   #29
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One Man wins over another Man because he has two expensive cars?

Ha, I say drop the pants and count the lipstick marks, let's see who's actually "WINNING"!
to be honest i would say the man with the two M cars . money talks
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Regardless what car you drive ... Do you get excited to drive your car each and every time? I was always excited to drive my S4. It brought loads of happiness.

I'm glad I'm feeling the same way about my 1LE minus hill assist and skip shift.


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Old 01-09-2013, 10:25 PM   #31
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So....... I have a regular customer that just bought a 2013 M5 & M6 BMW's about a month ago. He comes in today to have some work done to them and he instantly starts talking about the Car and Driver Lighting lap and how well they did. I sorta chuckled and took him outside and then introduced him to my 1LE. Then I pulled up the lap times on the internet and showed him where his cars ranked against my SS that cost 1/4 of what each of his did. He just stood there with a dumbfounded look on his face.... WINNING!!! Im now sitting at home laughing about it. Just thought I would share my story...

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Don't you ever tell your boss about that conversation with your customer .
One of two things will happen
1--- He will never be back at your shop for anything

2--- He will buy a Camaro , and will drive by to show it to you

3--- He may buy all what he needs to improve his Ms performance from you
Then ask you for a weekend at the race track .
In this case you will keep your job , but will leave you
With a bad taste in your mouth ( green soap )
So either way you loose .
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Old 01-09-2013, 10:43 PM   #32
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I respect BMW's, however I find them steril and boring. They provoke no emotion or passion in me. Sorry. Go 1LE!
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Old 01-09-2013, 10:48 PM   #33
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Don't you ever tell your boss about that conversation with your customer .
One of two things will happen
1--- He will never be back at your shop for anything

2--- He will buy a Camaro , and will drive by to show it to you

3--- He may buy all what he needs to improve his Ms performance from you
Then ask you for a weekend at the race track .
In this case you will keep your job , but will leave you
With a bad taste in your mouth ( green soap )
So either way you loose .
The only boss I have to answer to is married to me.

1--- I am the boss.. And trust me he will be back. I am considered a professional in my line of business.

2--- He has one. 69 camaro with an LS swap.. Pretty nice car, He Bought it, not built it.

3--- He is blown away that my measly 40k car can pretty much compete with all of his on a track.

Im ready for track day. I hope that I dont disappoint him to bad.

Yep, Sounds like i'm losing..
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I respect BMW's, however I find them steril and boring. They provoke no emotion or passion in me. Sorry. Go 1LE!
335i and M3 are the only one's I would consider. For a sedan the 335i is a pretty good buy overall, it costs a bit more than a CTS or A4 or Ford Fusion.

While I agree many BMW drivers own them for the badge, the fit and finish of the vehicle from my experience is pretty high and very quiet vehicles. The M3 just screams and is a pretty good track vehicle, the price is a bit high and hopefully rumors aren't true with it going to a V6 next model.
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