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Old 01-26-2008, 09:28 PM   #26
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Here's what I see;

If you look at the close up shots of the tach, it seems to redline at 6000 rpm. The LS3 makes peak power at 6k rpm, so if this is the V8 it's not an LS3. The L76 makes peak power at 5600 rpm, so that's within the tach but awfully close to the top. The V6 makes peak power at even higher rpm, 6300.

So, this is probably a V8. It's probably not an LS3. That leaves the L76 and Gen V for options. There's not enough info about the Gen V to guess any further. So I'm thinking the V8 choices are down to 2.

Edit: Just checked the DI 3.6 and it peaks at 5200, so add 1 more possibility.

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Old 01-26-2008, 09:40 PM   #27
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I think this is the V6 interior and gauges.

but I also think that the Camaro will be the first wide production availability of the Gen V V8 engines
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Old 01-26-2008, 09:56 PM   #28
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I'm surprised it hasn't been commented on yet, but looks like a short throw shifter...think it will stay that way?
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Old 01-26-2008, 10:18 PM   #29
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With the lighted gauges (showing), it looks better than I thought, I like the steering wheel too, it's coming along.

Yeah it doesn't look like it's going to have a Nav screen, can Onstar find me the closest ATM or place to eat? Eh, guess I'll go read more on Onstar.

I'm wondering if we are looking at the V6.. hmm.
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Also, not a fan of the ignition in the steering column. I'd like dash mounted better I think. Also not a fan of the hand brake. Otherwise looking very good.
Totally no problem with the ignition in the steering column, reminds me of my childhood sitting in my uncle's muscle car and pretending I was driving. It brings back the retro memories.
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Old 01-26-2008, 10:32 PM   #30
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I think this is the V6 interior and gauges.
After getting over my tach obsession, I looked at the exterior shots and I have to agree with you. The wheel/tire combo does not look low profile enough to be in line with V8 performance.
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Old 01-26-2008, 11:07 PM   #31
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Yeah the ignition location is totally personal taste, and its not a big deal. To me in-dash or push button just seems to indicate a more special kind of car, but that's not concrete at all.

Yeah I don't think onstar does POI functions, making a portable nav unit more handy. I hope it has XM radio built in then so I don't have to have two display screens tacked on to the dash.

I think this may very well be the DI 3.6. That would line up perfectly with the tach and torque gauges. Interesting stuff....

And yes, that shifter looks pretty short throw to me. Yay.

I wonder if the aftermarket will offer some badges like the old Camaro emblem. I'd get some of those.
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Old 01-27-2008, 12:12 AM   #32
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I think this is the V6 interior and gauges.
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I like the progress. The A/C controls are a little big but it looks good. This is probably the base model trim. It should just get better.
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Old 01-27-2008, 12:16 AM   #33
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Not sure I like the flatness of the overall shape of the dash and I definitely don't like the shifter. I'd fallen in love with the concept's shifter, but I guess I can always buy it aftermarket (assuming its offered).

The size of the steering wheel does seem more in proportion now and I really like having all the extra gauges (ie torque etc).

All in all I'll reserve judgment until I see the final product, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to resort to aftermarket parts to get what I really want.
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Old 01-27-2008, 03:30 AM   #34
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Found some spy pics!

Check this link out! It has some spy pics that I haven't seen yet. And as far as I know, nobody has posted them here yet. They were taken when they still had the camo on them prototypes, but the majority are interior pics anyways.
Here's something interesting though....
In the pic showing the quad gauge cluster on the center console there is a torque gauge... and it maxes out at 370 ft/lbs. I'm curious if this is really going to be on the production models. And if it is, wouldn't this be a clue as to what kind of HP numbers we might expect from a V8 version? Usually GM's HP and torque numbers don't differ by much. What do you guys think?

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Old 01-27-2008, 03:34 AM   #35
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Old 01-27-2008, 03:52 AM   #36
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Ooops... my bad! Didn't look hard enough!!
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Old 01-27-2008, 03:54 AM   #37
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No prob at all!!! and if you don't see it, it's cool. Merging a thread doesn't take but 10 seconds. I know...sometimes it's finding the thread that's the hard part. But, no problemo! Keep lookin!!!
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Old 01-27-2008, 05:01 AM   #38
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370 lb-ft?...ly5(but this is a truck engine) has around 340 lbft..L76 has around 385 lbft
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Old 01-27-2008, 05:52 AM   #39
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Just gotta add that since my Saab has the ignition in the midedle console this is going to take some getting used to. Don't mind though, I like the Saab thing but it is a bit quirky.
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Old 01-27-2008, 07:02 AM   #40
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do you guys think the instument cluster there will change based on the model? more specifically between v6 and v8 and maybe between v8's?

i really hope that they do and this is a v6 cuz a 370 torque max in a v8 is a lttle low, in my opinion. im hoping for somewhere in the 400's. the higher the better.
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Old 01-27-2008, 09:59 AM   #41
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The torque gauge must be reading the injector duty cycle, and calculating some percentage of MAX output and displaying that. You'd never show ACTUAL rear wheel torque because its a crazy number (3.92 axle ratio X 4.027 first gear ratio X 395lb*ft @ flywheel = 6,235_lb*ft @ rear wheels)

My guess is that this car has the gauge, but it may not actually reflect the engine thats in it... but if it does its probably the L76 or LS3. It would make more sense for GM to modify an LS3 to spin a bit faster and make less torque, it makes everything lighter and would allow for more power.

Also, we STILL don't know how much this car weighs... if its 4200lbs then yes, 395lb*ft is a little low (L76 output). If the car weighs 3600lbs then we are all set!

Either way, the gauge values are probably still all over the place as they sort out levels of tune, packages, etc.

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Old 01-27-2008, 11:39 AM   #42
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Looking at the cammo and the covers on the exterior, I realized that these pics have to be several weeks old. I wonder if the interior has undergone any improvements in the time these pics were taken and posted?
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Old 01-27-2008, 11:43 AM   #43
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^That's what I was thinking. All the cammo should be off. So, I figure someone snapped those pix a long time ago and are only releasing them now as things have moved along.

I just hope we can change the color of the interior lights like on the Mustang. And, I'd really have to see it in person, but those RPM and Speedo gauge lights look pretty darn bright to me.
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Old 01-27-2008, 12:11 PM   #44
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^Yeah, some seem to hate the changing colors thing but i think it would be quite neat actually. Much better for mood colors when picking up the ladies
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The interior looks like it wraps around the driver like a glove. I can't wait to sit in one for the first time.
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First off, why has no one stated the obviously huuuuuuuuuuuge hint we just got here? Look at the torque gauge (really freaking cool, BTW.) Look real close. It goes up to 370 lb-ft. That's way less than the LS3. Less than the L76. Low end Gen V anyone?

Secondly, looking like some real nice progress there. I'm liking the steering wheel. Radio stack still needs a TON of work though...

Finally, yay standard transmission. Obviously a different car than we've seen before.
its probably the 3.6 v6. i doubt its for the v8.
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Old 01-27-2008, 03:46 PM   #47
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How come it took so long to get the email that there were new pics? Just kidding, I actually came yesterday and posted about them but got the email today so I thought it was kinda funny!
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Old 01-27-2008, 03:52 PM   #48
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How come it took so long to get the email that there were new pics? Just kidding, I actually came yesterday and posted about them but got the email today so I thought it was kinda funny!
do not quote me, but I think you don't receive an e-mail until they put the topic on the homepage. That happened today. (admins am I correct?)
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Old 01-27-2008, 05:04 PM   #49
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My thoughts here on the torque gauge is that the test car still has an LS2 in it. I do not think Chevy has finished whichever engine will be in the final car. Remember these gauges and there markings are very easy to change and I would assume they will be different between the V6 and V8. The have to change things such as redline anyway so they can change the numbering also pretty easily. I think the HP and Torque ratings of whatever the engine is, at least on the top-V8 (not the limited production GT-500 fighter if ther is one) will have to be at least equal to the GTO.

I have read alot about maybe 2 V6s and one V8 does anyone have any good info on this or is this pure speculation, I had always assumed one V6 and two V8s.
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